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Title: Proper way to measure a spur?
Post by: Marc on March 27, 2016, 02:34:00 PM
What is the proper method to measure a spur?  With the rocky country I hunt, I rarely kill one over an inch, and I rarely see a pointed tip on the spurs...

This is the same spur with 2 different pictures.  Measuring from where the spur meets the leg to the tip of the spur (while not trying to take a cruddy picture), I get about 1.5 inches...  Just wondering if I am on the right track, or if I gave myself too much credit?

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/msorsky/T-2-spur-2-4-16_zpsowe7r3wm.jpg) (http://s125.photobucket.com/user/msorsky/media/T-2-spur-2-4-16_zpsowe7r3wm.jpg.html)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/msorsky/T-spur--r-4-16_zpspbmtrike.jpg) (http://s125.photobucket.com/user/msorsky/media/T-spur--r-4-16_zpspbmtrike.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Proper way to measure a spur?
Post by: g8rvet on March 27, 2016, 02:40:14 PM
I just did a crude drawing, but this is my understanding and the way I measure them.
Title: Re: Proper way to measure a spur?
Post by: fallhnt on March 27, 2016, 02:50:38 PM
Measure along the outside edge(the longest edge)
Title: Re: Proper way to measure a spur?
Post by: spaightlabs on March 27, 2016, 03:14:30 PM
Quote from: fallhnt on March 27, 2016, 02:50:38 PM
Measure along the outside edge(the longest edge)

This, measure along the outside of the curve with the flexible tape.
Title: Re: Proper way to measure a spur?
Post by: MK M GOBL on March 27, 2016, 03:27:28 PM
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Title: Re: Proper way to measure a spur?
Post by: cja on March 27, 2016, 03:42:42 PM
That's 1 1/4 not 1 1/2in
Title: Re: Proper way to measure a spur?
Post by: hookedspur on March 27, 2016, 05:19:24 PM
Like This..
Title: Proper way to measure a spur?
Post by: reynolds243 on March 27, 2016, 05:24:14 PM
Measure it with the right camera angle so it always adds 1/4-1/2" to whatever it really is!  At least that's how you send the pics to your friends :)


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Title: Re: Proper way to measure a spur?
Post by: mgm1955 on March 27, 2016, 05:41:18 PM
Quote from: MK M GOBL on March 27, 2016, 03:27:28 PM
NWTF Score Calculator, This makes it easy.

http://www.nwtf.org/hunt/records/score

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Title: Re: Proper way to measure a spur?
Post by: g8rvet on March 27, 2016, 06:31:58 PM
I need to remeasure some of my spurs.  I was shorting my spurs.  That looks like you measure along the outside arch. 
Title: Re: Proper way to measure a spur?
Post by: Marc on March 27, 2016, 06:34:59 PM
Quote from: cja on March 27, 2016, 03:42:42 PM
That's 1 1/4 not 1 1/2in
You are correct sir...  Wishful thinking...  Not enough sleep...  Bad vision...
Title: Proper way to measure a spur?
Post by: tanna114 on March 27, 2016, 07:28:59 PM

Quote from: hookedspur on March 27, 2016, 05:19:24 PM
Like This..

This is the correct way.


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Title: Re: Proper way to measure a spur?
Post by: GobbleNut on March 28, 2016, 12:02:37 AM
One of the problems with spur measurement that makes it difficult is that the spur "configuration" on any bird can vary a bit.  The point where the spur protrudes from the leg sometimes has a good deal of "quick" around the spur, making it difficult to determine just where the spur base starts. 

Also the base of the spur where it meets the leg can be quite convex on some spurs as compared to others.  The original measuring system indicated that the proper measurement was to be taken along the longest curve of the spur, but also from a point equivalent to the deepest point where the spur met the leg. 

In addition, some spurs actually have multiple curvature,...sort of a spiral rather than a straight curve.  That spur configuration, and how to measure it properly, has never been addressed satisfactorily, in my opinion. 

If those aren't enough complications already, another is added when spur tips are rounded rather than coming to a well-defined, sharp point.  Determining the exact tip of a rounded spur is often not as simple as it might seem.

All in all, spur measuring can be a bit subjective, depending on the person doing the measuring.  From what I have seen, a lot of spur measuring is just a WAG. 
Title: Proper way to measure a spur?
Post by: drenalinld on March 28, 2016, 12:11:49 AM
Yes the convex shape on the inside of the leg usually adds 1/16" to 1/8" for many trying to do it correctly. Even with rounded tip you can get within 1/16". I hope I kill one with multiple curves that would be a great problem to have.
Title: Re: Proper way to measure a spur?
Post by: GobbleNut on March 28, 2016, 07:58:00 AM
Quote from: Treerooster on March 28, 2016, 01:43:27 AM
Screw the "along the curve" thing, this is the best way to measure spurs.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r221/Treerooster/P2130004_zps93572d14.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Treerooster/media/P2130004_zps93572d14.jpg.html)

It results in more braggin rights and can win you a few contests.

1 7/8"...not bad...eh?

:TooFunny: :TooFunny:  Hey, Gary, you could have made a full 2" if you had followed the curve of that spur!  Do it right next time.

I also think beards ought to be measured by just pushing the tape end into the breast as far as it will go.  To heck with that "measure to the base of the beard sheath" thing! 
....And while we're at it, weights oughta be calculated based on how many lead weights you can stuff down a bird's throat before weighing it!  ...And all weights must be taken with an old, rusty, spring-operated fish scale.  That's the only way to get a real accurate weight on a bird!
;D :toothy9: :newmascot: :newmascot: :newmascot: :newmascot: :toothy9: ;D
Title: Re: Proper way to measure a spur?
Post by: tomstopper on March 28, 2016, 08:47:28 AM
Quote from: GobbleNut on March 28, 2016, 07:58:00 AM
Quote from: Treerooster on March 28, 2016, 01:43:27 AM
Screw the "along the curve" thing, this is the best way to measure spurs.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r221/Treerooster/P2130004_zps93572d14.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Treerooster/media/P2130004_zps93572d14.jpg.html)

It results in more braggin rights and can win you a few contests.

1 7/8"...not bad...eh?

:TooFunny: :TooFunny:  Hey, Gary, you could have made a full 2" if you had followed the curve of that spur!  Do it right next time.

I also think beards ought to be measured by just pushing the tape end into the breast as far as it will go.  To heck with that "measure to the base of the beard sheath" thing! 
....And while we're at it, weights oughta be calculated based on how many lead weights you can stuff down a bird's throat before weighing it!  ...And all weights must be taken with an old, rusty, spring-operated fish scale.  That's the only way to get a real accurate weight on a bird!
;D :toothy9: :newmascot: :newmascot: :newmascot: :newmascot: :toothy9: ;D
:TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
Title: Re: Proper way to measure a spur?
Post by: SteelerFan on March 28, 2016, 09:40:11 AM
Quote from: tomstopper on March 28, 2016, 08:47:28 AM
Quote from: GobbleNut on March 28, 2016, 07:58:00 AM
Quote from: Treerooster on March 28, 2016, 01:43:27 AM
Screw the "along the curve" thing, this is the best way to measure spurs.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r221/Treerooster/P2130004_zps93572d14.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Treerooster/media/P2130004_zps93572d14.jpg.html)

It results in more braggin rights and can win you a few contests.

1 7/8"...not bad...eh?

:TooFunny: :TooFunny:  Hey, Gary, you could have made a full 2" if you had followed the curve of that spur!  Do it right next time.

I also think beards ought to be measured by just pushing the tape end into the breast as far as it will go.  To heck with that "measure to the base of the beard sheath" thing! 
....And while we're at it, weights oughta be calculated based on how many lead weights you can stuff down a bird's throat before weighing it!  ...And all weights must be taken with an old, rusty, spring-operated fish scale.  That's the only way to get a real accurate weight on a bird!
;D :toothy9: :newmascot: :newmascot: :newmascot: :newmascot: :toothy9: ;D
:TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:

(http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b421/32SteelerFan/thinking_zpsv6hs977t.gif) (http://s1042.photobucket.com/user/32SteelerFan/media/thinking_zpsv6hs977t.gif.html) A guy could use that technique for lots of measurements... ???
Title: Re: Proper way to measure a spur?
Post by: Gobble! on March 28, 2016, 10:21:32 AM
Quote from: SteelerFan on March 28, 2016, 09:40:11 AM
Quote from: tomstopper on March 28, 2016, 08:47:28 AM
Quote from: GobbleNut on March 28, 2016, 07:58:00 AM
Quote from: Treerooster on March 28, 2016, 01:43:27 AM
Screw the "along the curve" thing, this is the best way to measure spurs.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r221/Treerooster/P2130004_zps93572d14.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Treerooster/media/P2130004_zps93572d14.jpg.html)

It results in more braggin rights and can win you a few contests.

1 7/8"...not bad...eh?

:TooFunny: :TooFunny:  Hey, Gary, you could have made a full 2" if you had followed the curve of that spur!  Do it right next time.

I also think beards ought to be measured by just pushing the tape end into the breast as far as it will go.  To heck with that "measure to the base of the beard sheath" thing! 
....And while we're at it, weights oughta be calculated based on how many lead weights you can stuff down a bird's throat before weighing it!  ...And all weights must be taken with an old, rusty, spring-operated fish scale.  That's the only way to get a real accurate weight on a bird!
;D :toothy9: :newmascot: :newmascot: :newmascot: :newmascot: :toothy9: ;D
:TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:

(http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b421/32SteelerFan/thinking_zpsv6hs977t.gif) (http://s1042.photobucket.com/user/32SteelerFan/media/thinking_zpsv6hs977t.gif.html) A guy could use that technique for lots of measurements... ???

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Proper way to measure a spur?
Post by: GobbleNut on March 28, 2016, 11:11:04 AM
Quote from: SteelerFan on March 28, 2016, 09:40:11 AM
Quote from: tomstopper on March 28, 2016, 08:47:28 AM
Quote from: GobbleNut on March 28, 2016, 07:58:00 AM
Quote from: Treerooster on March 28, 2016, 01:43:27 AM
Screw the "along the curve" thing, this is the best way to measure spurs.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r221/Treerooster/P2130004_zps93572d14.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Treerooster/media/P2130004_zps93572d14.jpg.html)

It results in more braggin rights and can win you a few contests.

1 7/8"...not bad...eh?

:TooFunny: :TooFunny:  Hey, Gary, you could have made a full 2" if you had followed the curve of that spur!  Do it right next time.

I also think beards ought to be measured by just pushing the tape end into the breast as far as it will go.  To heck with that "measure to the base of the beard sheath" thing! 
....And while we're at it, weights oughta be calculated based on how many lead weights you can stuff down a bird's throat before weighing it!  ...And all weights must be taken with an old, rusty, spring-operated fish scale.  That's the only way to get a real accurate weight on a bird!
;D :toothy9: :newmascot: :newmascot: :newmascot: :newmascot: :toothy9: ;D
:TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:

(http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b421/32SteelerFan/thinking_zpsv6hs977t.gif) (http://s1042.photobucket.com/user/32SteelerFan/media/thinking_zpsv6hs977t.gif.html) A guy could use that technique for lots of measurements... ???

Hmmm,....good idea.  That way, some of us could get a full six inches on our "beard length"!   ;D :TooFunny: ;D
Title: Re: Proper way to measure a spur?
Post by: snapper1982 on March 28, 2016, 09:06:17 PM
Quote from: SteelerFan on March 28, 2016, 09:40:11 AM
Quote from: tomstopper on March 28, 2016, 08:47:28 AM
Quote from: GobbleNut on March 28, 2016, 07:58:00 AM
Quote from: Treerooster on March 28, 2016, 01:43:27 AM
Screw the "along the curve" thing, this is the best way to measure spurs.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r221/Treerooster/P2130004_zps93572d14.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Treerooster/media/P2130004_zps93572d14.jpg.html)

It results in more braggin rights and can win you a few contests.

1 7/8"...not bad...eh?

:TooFunny: :TooFunny:  Hey, Gary, you could have made a full 2" if you had followed the curve of that spur!  Do it right next time.

I also think beards ought to be measured by just pushing the tape end into the breast as far as it will go.  To heck with that "measure to the base of the beard sheath" thing! 
....And while we're at it, weights oughta be calculated based on how many lead weights you can stuff down a bird's throat before weighing it!  ...And all weights must be taken with an old, rusty, spring-operated fish scale.  That's the only way to get a real accurate weight on a bird!
;D :toothy9: :newmascot: :newmascot: :newmascot: :newmascot: :toothy9: ;D
:TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:

(http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b421/32SteelerFan/thinking_zpsv6hs977t.gif) (http://s1042.photobucket.com/user/32SteelerFan/media/thinking_zpsv6hs977t.gif.html) A guy could use that technique for lots of measurements... ???
been doing it this way for years. Now i understand why i get laughed at. But seriously there is another forum with a member that measures his spurs from the middle of the leg.
Title: Re: Proper way to measure a spur?
Post by: hobbes on March 29, 2016, 12:50:26 AM
Treerooster,  That should be completely acceptable for us mountain Merriam's guys.