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Title: Help on setting up on a bird
Post by: RiverRoost on March 15, 2016, 03:51:24 PM
Got a bird to gobble this morning after daylight and by time I got to him it was real bright out so I setup as close/safe/quick as possible. The birds are roosted out over a flooded bottom pretty close where the pin is dropped. Between the lane leading to the plot and the edge of the water is prob 40 yards or so. This morning they pitched down and strutted in the woods just between water and the lane then moved on toward where the lane meets up to plot and crossed.

Should I go in in the dark and put my hen decoy in the woods between water and lane in an open spot or in the lane or in the field? Plan on doing this well before daylight and sitting and ready at daylight.

The corner of lane and plot looks good bc maximum shooting distance both in plot and down lane. Or be in the woods w deke out. Somewhat worried if deke is in lane or plot they may not see it off roost or immediately.
P.S. The location on top of map is not the same town I'm hunting in just fyi. Just the last place I got directions to

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Title: Re: Help on setting up on a bird
Post by: Dtrkyman on March 15, 2016, 04:53:37 PM
I assume there is not any cover so I would hunt where I could hide best, if it were green I would get in tight and if they gave me the slip I would try and beat them to the plot.
Title: Re: Help on setting up on a bird
Post by: Farmboy27 on March 15, 2016, 05:08:03 PM
If the birds are consistent and you have the patience then setting up within range of where the road meets the field will get you a bird.  No decoy needed, calling optional!! 
Title: Help on setting up on a bird
Post by: omegafoo on March 15, 2016, 07:29:10 PM

Quote from: Farmboy27 on March 15, 2016, 05:08:03 PM
If the birds are consistent and you have the patience then setting up within range of where the road meets the field will get you a bird.  No decoy needed, calling optional!!

^This^ IF they are consistent. If not and they behave like turkeys, you're screwed because they'll go down the lane while you're in the woods or vice versa! ;)
Title: Re: Help on setting up on a bird
Post by: bbcoach on March 15, 2016, 07:43:50 PM
My intuition tells me they are flying down and working toward the field to feed early in the morning and then moving back into the timber later in the morning then making a return trip back through in the evening going back to roost.  I would go in, the first morning, and setup in the eastern most set of trees on the field, probably 10 yards in on the eastern point (changed to the east from south after paying attention to due north).  I would listen and observe their movements through the field.  If a bird is in range, take him.  If not then once you have them patterned, then setup where you know they normally move through and soft call.  You can do the same in the afternoons, if you can hunt afternoons.  Good Luck!
Title: Re: Help on setting up on a bird
Post by: hotspur on March 15, 2016, 08:21:41 PM
It's early season moving is risky, set up at food plot. You know where they want to go.
Title: Re: Help on setting up on a bird
Post by: fallhnt on March 16, 2016, 01:26:10 PM
I like to go in early and set up to hunt close to the roost.
Title: Re: Help on setting up on a bird
Post by: hotspur on March 16, 2016, 07:57:37 PM
At daylight when he gobbles set up between him and the food plot
Title: Re: Help on setting up on a bird
Post by: g8rvet on March 17, 2016, 12:27:24 PM
Couple of questions.

You say "they" pitched down.  Were you close enough to hear/see birds or did you hear him/them gobbling going away? The reason I ask is if you are competing with hens.  If I was competing with hens, I would go to the field as that is their likely destination and ole Tom will likely follow. 

Also, I hunt a similar plot - very similar in fact, but I do not have permission to hunt the other side of the water.  So if I bump them to the other side, they are gone for a while.  Every move I make there is less aggressive now.  I have had birds roosted 2-300 yards from the field take 2 hours to show up.  But there, I have no competition and I know if they don't show up that day, they will another day. 

One more day of intel would be valuable (with gun in hand of course).  They may not roost that close again, and will be nice to know if they still head to the food plot.  If that is not the most likely routine, then moving into the woods may be indicated.  I always figure I can't know what a Tom is gonna do on any given day because he doesn't know. Patterns are general,  not specific. 

How I would hunt that bird would have a lot to do with competition and if I only had a couple days to hunt him and then could not get back out for a week.  In that case, I would be a little more aggressive.  Especially if there was competition for the bird.

Please post the pics of him when you are standing on his head! 
Title: Re: Help on setting up on a bird
Post by: RiverRoost on March 17, 2016, 06:01:40 PM
He was with hens opening morning. They pitched into the narrow strip of woods between the water and plot and lane. They crossed the lane right where it enters the plot and hit the woods and cut over to a road that T's in w the road that runs to the plot.
Title: Re: Help on setting up on a bird
Post by: Cottonmouth on March 19, 2016, 10:26:52 PM
If he is roosted with hens, I wouldn't get real aggressive calling. Just some light yelps clucks and purrs. Where I am in MS, these hens don't put up with a lot of cutting and such. I've killed a lot of birds just purring and scratching leaves. A good indication is if he shuts up after flying down. If he keeps gobbling,  pour it to him if you want and get him before the hens move in. If he is still giving you trouble,  late season afternoon hunts are deadly here. Just don't expect a ton of gobbling. Usually the will just sneak in for a look so be ready. Good luck
Title: Re: Help on setting up on a bird
Post by: jbrown on March 21, 2016, 08:47:01 PM
I would set up at the plot within 35yds of where road enters plot. If the first patch of bushes in the field has good cover, I'd look closely at that spot. If they gobble, Wait untill you think hes ready to fly down, then I would tree call 1 time, do a wing fly down, 15 sec later QUIET 5 note yelp....deadly! After that, I would not call again unless they get way off coarse. Get there early, sneak in quietly and give them plenty of time to show up.
Title: Re: Help on setting up on a bird
Post by: TRG3 on March 22, 2016, 12:36:32 AM
 I get in there early to set up my decoys and use a red filter over my flashlight to aid me in the process. Many animals don't see red, especially in the dark.
Title: Re: Help on setting up on a bird
Post by: ridgerunner on March 23, 2016, 06:05:18 AM
Set up in the field..that seems to be the direction they wanna move anyways...I'd set up in the field.
Title: Re: Help on setting up on a bird
Post by: Captain Hooks on March 23, 2016, 09:23:40 AM
I would be safe then sorry.  If they are consistently going the same direction I would  Take your time and set up near the field edge.  If you spook them on the roost you just wasted a hunt
Title: Re: Help on setting up on a bird
Post by: jbrown on March 24, 2016, 10:24:57 AM
Let us know how it worked out
Title: Re: Help on setting up on a bird
Post by: TRG3 on March 25, 2016, 07:57:31 PM
I've found it difficult to out-call real hen, even if I yelp, gobble, and my decoys are in plain sight. If they don't come in immediately after fly down, I've had some success by getting the boss hen riled up by returning her calls with some intensity. Since both gobblers and hens have a peck order, it is sometimes possible to get the boss hen to investigate the hen that is challenging her, dragging the gobbler in with her. If this doesn't work, I sometimes just sit tight since around 8-9 a.m. the hens will leave the gobbler to go nest and since I'm yelping/gobbling every 15-20 minutes as a reminder that I'm still there, hopefully the now lonely tom will come and investigate the new hen and intruder gobbler. Or...sometimes I set up in the field I assume they will be headed for after fly down. With occasional yelping/gobbling, I hope to give the message..."I'm already here. Where are you?" Be vigilant since gobblers often come in silently to size up the intruders.