It seems like I heard of this before but have any of yall had a issue with your hevi shot loosing buffer ?
I set up a 20 for my kids last year and found some 2 3/4 hevi 6s on sale, they patterned well so I bought several boxes. I had one last year and now 2 more this past weekend loosing buffer. I sealed the ends with candle wax but a couple lost to much to even trust the pattern.
That crap made a mess in the action and is pretty pathetic considering the price of these things. Looks like I'll be back to the board with some Federal 7s for next year.
I have not experience this situation since they separated from Remington. A dab of glue or silicon on the shell will fix that, but I understand your frustration due to the high price tag. Good luck.
I stopped using them because of the same issue. I know I can glue them but I don't feel I should have to at that price point. Now using long beards.
LB's have had a similar problem. My buddy had one that the resin apparently broke apart in the tube of his gun after firing the first initial round at his bird. Good thing he killed it because the crimp failed on the LB and left his gun useless until it was taken apart and cleaned. After speaking to one of the reps, turns out it happened to several people. Didn't keep me from using them. It's just that any she'll can fail at any given time. I've never had issues with either brand but have heard the problems with both.
Happened to me with their shells and Nitros. Main reason I'm shooting TSS now.
I've seen this happen with shells that get cycled thru the magazine frequently or spend lots of time in the magazine. Compression with wear and tear on the crimp. Beyond the super glue or candle wax repair I'm at a loss. I did check my new (last year) in the box Hevi Shot loads and they're clean. ????? If they're still "new in the box" I'd call Hevi Shot. That sounds like a manufacturing defect to me.
I like to dip my shells in dead gobbler blood. Keeps the buffer in and makes em lucky!
Quote from: northwoodshntr on March 15, 2016, 01:53:38 PM
I've seen this happen with shells that get cycled thru the magazine frequently or spend lots of time in the magazine. Compression with wear and tear on the crimp. Beyond the super glue or candle wax repair I'm at a loss. I did check my new (last year) in the box Hevi Shot loads and they're clean. ????? If they're still "new in the box" I'd call Hevi Shot. That sounds like a manufacturing defect to me.
Yeah these are new shells. They put some type of glue on the crimp and it just comes of, it looks like a little star. The crimp is not tight so the buffer just pours out. I thought about calling them and see what they say.
It takes about 20 seconds to re-seal a box of 5.
If you don't have 20 seconds or a dollar to buy glue or a bottle of clear nail polish turkey hunting might not be the right sport for you...
Haven't had that issue myself, but I wouldn't be very happy after spending that kind of money either.
On a side note, this has been an eye opening thread....kind of depressing to know I have invested 36 years, a divorce, tons of money, thousands of miles, and wasted it all away on an endeavor that "wasn't for me."
.....all because I have never felt the need to reseal a brand new shotgun shell I spent good money on. Whodathunkit. :angel9:
Quote from: wvmntnhick on March 15, 2016, 01:31:26 PM
LB's have had a similar problem. My buddy had one that the resin apparently broke apart in the tube of his gun after firing the first initial round at his bird. Good thing he killed it because the crimp failed on the LB and left his gun useless until it was taken apart and cleaned. After speaking to one of the reps, turns out it happened to several people. Didn't keep me from using them. It's just that any she'll can fail at any given time. I've never had issues with either brand but have heard the problems with both.
Wait, what are you trying to say happened?
I've had loose crimps from all shell companies, but it's more common with EM. I give them a coating of nail polish whether they need it or not. I had one that was too bad to seal, so I emailed EM about it, and they sent me a hat. ;)
Hey, all I'm saying is that if a guy is willing to drive hundreds of miles and spend thousands of dollars to spend an incalculable amount of time sitting dead still while being eaten alive by insects...20 seconds and a dollar, not a big deal.
If the good Lord has blessed you such that all you have to worry about in your life is whether a little bit of buffer leaks out the crimp of your $5 a pop shotgun shell, you are indeed truly and mightily blessed, for this is for certain a 'first world problem.'
If a little leaking buffer makes you 'not that happy' because you spent 'that kind of money' send your shells to me and I will either give you $10 a box for them or I will spend 20 seconds per box to seal them and return them to you so that you have time to worry about more important things like the NCAA tournament and who the Broncos next quarterback is going to be. ;D
Quote from: stinkpickle on March 15, 2016, 04:08:49 PM
I've had loose crimps from all shell companies, but it's more common with EM. I give them a coating of nail polish whether they need it or not. I had one that was too bad to seal, so I emailed EM about it, and they sent me a hat. ;)
That's the attitude I'm talking about! A do-er. A Fixer. A Finder of solutions. These are the kinds of people that get things done in life! Find a problem, fix it and move on to bigger and better things.
Well played sir, and may your season be filled with adventure of the good and memorable kind.
Quote from: madstrutter on March 15, 2016, 03:39:38 PM
Quote from: wvmntnhick on March 15, 2016, 01:31:26 PM
LB's have had a similar problem. My buddy had one that the resin apparently broke apart in the tube of his gun after firing the first initial round at his bird. Good thing he killed it because the crimp failed on the LB and left his gun useless until it was taken apart and cleaned. After speaking to one of the reps, turns out it happened to several people. Didn't keep me from using them. It's just that any she'll can fail at any given time. I've never had issues with either brand but have heard the problems with both.
Wait, what are you trying to say happened?
there is a thread on here about it. i thought it was just the over shot card that's in 4 sections and lightly glued , i had some in the box that way missing a section or the whole thing loose. Put some light fingertip pressure and popped some more loose, various lots and shell 3" lb to 2 3/4 rooster.
Figure i would glue and go on. If the resin is already shattered though it isnt a Long beard any more!
Quote from: spaightlabs on March 15, 2016, 04:24:35 PM
Quote from: stinkpickle on March 15, 2016, 04:08:49 PM
I've had loose crimps from all shell companies, but it's more common with EM. I give them a coating of nail polish whether they need it or not. I had one that was too bad to seal, so I emailed EM about it, and they sent me a hat. ;)
That's the attitude I'm talking about! A do-er. A Fixer. A Finder of solutions. These are the kinds of people that get things done in life! Find a problem, fix it and move on to bigger and better things.
Well played sir, and may your season be filled with adventure of the good and memorable kind.
I'm not exactly sure if you are directing your sarcasm toward my post or not but if you read it you'd see I did " fix " them. A couple are to far gone but it's not a huge problem. Now had I known about it I would have "fixed" them before use but I didn't. Which lead me to make this post. I was simply curious if it was a common problem...that's all...
Now I have shot thousands of shells over the years and yes, I have seen one leak buffer on occasion but not a whole box, and regardless of how much money or time I spend on turkey hunting I still find that lacking in quality. Regardless if I'm willing to fix them or not.
I've never had the problem straight out of box but with use have had it happen with all brands of shells I've used Nitro hevi Remm Winch. Federal. Best thing to do is just give them quick coat and don't stress
I have had that same problem with a box of Magblends, the crimp was so deep in the shells that it did not seal and the glue that they put on the end of it had fallen out ( I wasn't too happy either considering the cost, like you mentioned). I still have them because I didn't trust them on a turkey and did not want the buffer spilling into the action of my gun. Shouldn't have to fix a $6 to $7 dollar shell.
Quote from: madstrutter on March 15, 2016, 03:39:38 PM
Quote from: wvmntnhick on March 15, 2016, 01:31:26 PM
LB's have had a similar problem. My buddy had one that the resin apparently broke apart in the tube of his gun after firing the first initial round at his bird. Good thing he killed it because the crimp failed on the LB and left his gun useless until it was taken apart and cleaned. After speaking to one of the reps, turns out it happened to several people. Didn't keep me from using them. It's just that any she'll can fail at any given time. I've never had issues with either brand but have heard the problems with both.
Wait, what are you trying to say happened?
Owlhoot, answered it at the bottom of page one. It was the "shot card" that came loose but the recoil also shattered the resin of one of the rounds in the tube. It allowed shot to leak into the chamber and rendered the fun useless until it was disassembled and cleared. It happened to several of his shells in the end. Winchester was straight up about the situation but it doesn't change the fact that it could've been a bad situation.
Quote from: spaightlabs on March 15, 2016, 03:20:27 PM
It takes about 20 seconds to re-seal a box of 5.
If you don't have 20 seconds or a dollar to buy glue or a bottle of clear nail polish turkey hunting might not be the right sport for you...
And there it is. The posts and attitude that lead people to other forums to get away from the crap. Rather than be a useless troll, how about help the man out. Maybe he didn't think of the nail polish. Maybe he did and was venting. Either way, this reply was about as useful as the one I can't even believe I'm taking the time to type up right now. I understand his frustration totally. If I'd paid $10 for a box of shells, I'd expect low quality and to maybe see some issues. If I'm paying upwards of $30 for a box of 5, you're darn certain they're going to be held to higher standards. Not really necessary to shame the man for asking a question and being aggravated.
I don't believe spaightlabs was trying to be a troll. This subject has been covered 136 times over the past 7 years or so...seriously. It happens with every shell maker. Some worse than others. Give 'em a quick swipe and go on. The answer was purely tounge-n-cheek. Hang on turkey season is coming, errbody calm down...
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Candle wax is the best fix. Melt a candle and pour the wax on the crimp. Wipe off the excess with a rag and you're good to go.
Quote from: spaightlabs on March 15, 2016, 04:24:35 PM
Quote from: stinkpickle on March 15, 2016, 04:08:49 PM
I've had loose crimps from all shell companies, but it's more common with EM. I give them a coating of nail polish whether they need it or not. I had one that was too bad to seal, so I emailed EM about it, and they sent me a hat. ;)
That's the attitude I'm talking about! A do-er. A Fixer. A Finder of solutions. These are the kinds of people that get things done in life! Find a problem, fix it and move on to bigger and better things.
Well played sir, and may your season be filled with adventure of the good and memorable kind.
Forget that. No reason you should have to be a fixer or a finder of solutions when it comes to an issue with brand new box of shells where your paying $5 a shell. The fact they sent a hat is a joke as well. My attitude was their selling crap. Leaking buffer, pattern inconsistency from one box to the next, no thanks.
Quote from: Gobble! on March 16, 2016, 09:23:34 AM
Quote from: spaightlabs on March 15, 2016, 04:24:35 PM
Quote from: stinkpickle on March 15, 2016, 04:08:49 PM
I've had loose crimps from all shell companies, but it's more common with EM. I give them a coating of nail polish whether they need it or not. I had one that was too bad to seal, so I emailed EM about it, and they sent me a hat. ;)
That's the attitude I'm talking about! A do-er. A Fixer. A Finder of solutions. These are the kinds of people that get things done in life! Find a problem, fix it and move on to bigger and better things.
Well played sir, and may your season be filled with adventure of the good and memorable kind.
Forget that. No reason you should have to be a fixer or a finder of solutions when it comes to an issue with brand new box of shells where your paying $5 a shell. The fact they sent a hat is a joke as well. My attitude was their selling crap. Leaking buffer, pattern inconsistency from one box to the next, no thanks.
To be fair, it was a pretty nice hat. It did more than $5's worth of improvements to my looks.
Quote from: stinkpickle on March 16, 2016, 03:33:21 PM
Quote from: Gobble! on March 16, 2016, 09:23:34 AM
Quote from: spaightlabs on March 15, 2016, 04:24:35 PM
Quote from: stinkpickle on March 15, 2016, 04:08:49 PM
I've had loose crimps from all shell companies, but it's more common with EM. I give them a coating of nail polish whether they need it or not. I had one that was too bad to seal, so I emailed EM about it, and they sent me a hat. ;)
That's the attitude I'm talking about! A do-er. A Fixer. A Finder of solutions. These are the kinds of people that get things done in life! Find a problem, fix it and move on to bigger and better things.
Well played sir, and may your season be filled with adventure of the good and memorable kind.
Forget that. No reason you should have to be a fixer or a finder of solutions when it comes to an issue with brand new box of shells where your paying $5 a shell. The fact they sent a hat is a joke as well. My attitude was their selling crap. Leaking buffer, pattern inconsistency from one box to the next, no thanks.
To be fair, it was a pretty nice hat. It did more than $5's worth of improvements to my looks.
I take back my previous statement. That's a game changer! Can't beat a strong hat game.
Quote from: stinkpickle on March 16, 2016, 03:33:21 PM
Quote from: Gobble! on March 16, 2016, 09:23:34 AM
Quote from: spaightlabs on March 15, 2016, 04:24:35 PM
Quote from: stinkpickle on March 15, 2016, 04:08:49 PM
I've had loose crimps from all shell companies, but it's more common with EM. I give them a coating of nail polish whether they need it or not. I had one that was too bad to seal, so I emailed EM about it, and they sent me a hat. ;)
That's the attitude I'm talking about! A do-er. A Fixer. A Finder of solutions. These are the kinds of people that get things done in life! Find a problem, fix it and move on to bigger and better things.
Well played sir, and may your season be filled with adventure of the good and memorable kind.
Forget that. No reason you should have to be a fixer or a finder of solutions when it comes to an issue with brand new box of shells where your paying $5 a shell. The fact they sent a hat is a joke as well. My attitude was their selling crap. Leaking buffer, pattern inconsistency from one box to the next, no thanks.
To be fair, it was a pretty nice hat. It did more than $5's worth of improvements to my looks.
Priceless. Just priceless. Needed a good laugh today. Thanks man.
Was it in bottomland ? If so I'm calling first thing in the morning. :camohat:
I've had most shells leak buffer...
Worst was Win XRD with poly buffer...almost cost me a KS double when the buffer jammed up the mag follower...almost...
I've had the glue on Nitro shells pop off, and yes, they clear sealant on H-13 come off after being carried a bit...
But fixing turkey gear is pretty normal to me...every vest I've bought is cheap & flimsy, needs sewing after a few hunts...1/2 the turkey calls I buy sound like crap...
Babying a $6-7 shell is the least of my concerns...
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