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Title: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: TauntoHawk on March 07, 2016, 11:02:56 AM
I would like to buy a new turkey gun and while I will use it the main function of this gun would be for my wife to use when she hunts with me.

I currently run a Rem 870 express 3" with the sureshot stock, FastFire II, and sumtoy choke. Things a turkey thumper and thing carries and performs awesome.

When my wife goes with hunting she borrows a 20ga from a good buddy of mine, either a 870 youth 20 or a weatherby SA-459 Tac turned turkey and she really likes both of those but shes has also carried my 12 and other full size 12 before as well.


I am not sure if I should buy a 20 for her or just get a new 12 and run reduced recoil or smaller payload shells in it when she's carrying it. She generally only hunts about 2-4 days a season. She's not intimidated by a 12 in any way but a 20 does fit her better and easier to hold and aim.

My must have criteria are Semi Auto, pistol grip stock, shorter barrell (22-24"), and ready for a reddot to be mounted also want to keep the build to under 1K total if possible. I realize that eliminates a lot of options but a SBEII and SX3 just aren't in my price range

The two main front runners that come to mind are the 20ga Weatherby SA-459 Turkey that they have now or a 12ga Stoeger 3500 turkey.

Any opinions or thoughts out there
Title: Re: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: codym on March 07, 2016, 11:34:30 AM
I just got the weatherby sa-459 turkey in 20ga. I haven't taken it out to pattern yet, but I'm really happy with the gun so far. Good quality and came ready to go. By that I mean it is drilled and tapped with a rail and sling swivels. Just ordered a fast fire, Carlson choke, a bunch of HW #7's, threw a sling on and I'm ready to go. Once I get everything in I will post a picture. It's very light and I think I'm going to love it. My wife shots a benelli montefeltro, but she hunts everything and that is a better all around gun. For the price, weight, and features I don't think you can beat the sa-459 for a dedicated turkey getter.
Title: Re: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: FL-Boss on March 07, 2016, 11:40:29 AM
get the 20ga Weatherby SA-459 Turkey .... I have many shotguns for turkey and always take the SA-459.  It's flat out awesome
Title: Re: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: TauntoHawk on March 07, 2016, 12:41:41 PM
Quote from: codym on March 07, 2016, 11:34:30 AM
I just got the weatherby sa-459 turkey in 20ga. I haven't taken it out to pattern yet, but I'm really happy with the gun so far. Good quality and came ready to go. By that I mean it is drilled and tapped with a rail and sling swivels. Just ordered a fast fire, Carlson choke, a bunch of HW #7's, threw a sling on and I'm ready to go. Once I get everything in I will post a picture. It's very light and I think I'm going to love it. My wife shots a benelli montefeltro, but she hunts everything and that is a better all around gun. For the price, weight, and features I don't think you can beat the sa-459 for a dedicated turkey getter.

that what I was think so HW#7s and a reddot and id be pretty much ready to hunt.
Title: Re: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: Ocoee Ridge Runner on March 07, 2016, 12:54:31 PM
SX3 12 has very light recoil and is a super duper shotgun.
Title: Re: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: Dr Juice on March 07, 2016, 01:25:27 PM
How about a used gun in very good condition? If you would consider going used, let the price be your screening criteria. Good luck.
Title: Re: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: vabeardhunter on March 07, 2016, 01:45:18 PM
Forend might be a little wide for her on the 3500 apposed to others she has tried. Good luck in your search.
Title: Re: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: Full strut on March 07, 2016, 04:27:21 PM
In the process of building a 870 youth 20. That's what I would get if I could do it all over
Title: Re: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: blueridgegobbler on March 07, 2016, 06:03:10 PM
My wife had a youth 870 21 inch barrel and to be truthful it had a pretty sharp kick she tried one of my old special purpose 870 12 gauges now she shoots it with 2 3/4  1.5oz loads and loves it just something to think about and it patterns well.
Title: Re: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: SKFOOTER on March 07, 2016, 06:04:47 PM
Don't overlook the Franchi Affinity 20 gauge, :OGturkeyhead:
Title: Re: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: Bowguy on March 07, 2016, 07:29:21 PM
With women somethimg to think about besides recoil is the physical weight. Some ladies would rather the lighter gun, especially climbing hills, etc. Something to think about.
Title: Re: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: BandedSpur on March 08, 2016, 08:01:23 AM
I'd go with the 20 and shoot HW7s for factory, or better yet, start loading TSS.
Title: Re: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: perrytrails on March 08, 2016, 08:16:52 AM
20 gauge has come a long way...Fed Heavy weight 7's have helped.

light weight, lower recoil.

Go 20ga, it may end up your favorite gun too!!

I to have used a 870 express 12 for years, I have the sa-20 Mossberg, pretty much the same as Weatherby, and a custom 20ga single shot with red dot.

Id say the sa-20 will see the most time this season.
Title: Re: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: TauntoHawk on March 08, 2016, 10:50:14 AM
Im feeling like the allure of "more power" in the ability to shoot 3.5s out of 12 is clouding my judgement. The best fit and feel for her and probably even me as run and gunner is the 20 and some HW#7s
Title: Re: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: TauntoHawk on March 11, 2016, 08:42:08 AM
for guys running the Wheatherby SA-459 I seem to be finding way more and cheaper of the threat response models over the turkey.. its all black instead of camo and has an 18.5in barrel instead of 22.. will that barrel length effect much. I am leaning towards just paying the extra $100 and a bit further drive to get the turkey model i just feel like 18.5 is gonna be weaker on patterns
Title: Re: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: VaBoy on March 11, 2016, 09:38:55 AM
You will also loose some velocity out of the shorter barrel , have been told that you actually lose it with anything under around 26"  . Not so much a problem with a 12 gauge but something to keep in mind with the 20. I would opt for the longer barrel ...
Title: Re: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: Dtrkyman on March 13, 2016, 10:23:06 AM
I would personally go with an ultra light 20ga o/u or sxs, there are a few that are around 5lbs and would be amazing to carry around, make sure they have a barrel selector and you can run a turkey tube and a standard full combo.

I would shoot federal heavy weights or hand load some tss.
Title: Re: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: Nboyd15 on March 13, 2016, 09:29:39 PM
I don't think it makes a difference if u hunt with a 12 or 20. I have killed turkeys with a 20 gauge 870 at 60 yards. But this year I bought a winchester 1300 nwtf 12 gauge
Title: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: TauntoHawk on March 16, 2016, 12:26:05 PM
I ordered the wheatherby sa-459 in 20ga

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Title: Re: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: FL-Boss on March 16, 2016, 12:55:26 PM
you won't regret it.  Plan on selling your 12ga now if you have one... you'll never want to pick it up again after handling that SA-459
Title: Re: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: codym on March 16, 2016, 01:19:36 PM
Quote from: TauntoHawk on March 16, 2016, 12:26:05 PM
I ordered the wheatherby sa-459 in 20ga

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Good choice. Ordered a Carlson 575 and shot HW#7's in a 25-30mph wind and got 120 in an 8' circle, I was very happy with that. Next year I will try the TSS.
Title: Re: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: TauntoHawk on March 16, 2016, 01:21:31 PM
Quote from: FL-Boss on March 16, 2016, 12:55:26 PM
you won't regret it.  Plan on selling your 12ga now if you have one... you'll never want to pick it up again after handling that SA-459

Well I will still carry my 12 when my wife is hunting with me.
Title: Re: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: TauntoHawk on March 16, 2016, 01:23:29 PM
Quote from: codym on March 16, 2016, 01:19:36 PM
Quote from: TauntoHawk on March 16, 2016, 12:26:05 PM
I ordered the wheatherby sa-459 in 20ga

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Good choice. Ordered a Carlson 575 and shot HW#7's in a 25-30mph wind and got 120 in an 8' circle, I was very happy with that. Next year I will try the TSS.

Im not decided yet on whether to go Carlson, Sumtoy, or Rob Roberts as my "first" choke option. I shoot a sumtoy on my 870.
Title: Re: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: tree-rat sniper on March 16, 2016, 06:51:01 PM
I still own a 12 but it rarely sees use.  Anymore most of the time one of my lightweight 20s gets pulled from the safe.  From yard pests to turkey, deer & coyotes the 20 hasn't let me down.
Title: Re: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: Rick Howard on March 16, 2016, 06:51:50 PM
16ga it is then
Title: Re: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: Gobspur on March 16, 2016, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: Rick Howard on March 16, 2016, 06:51:50 PM
16ga it is then

Love my sweet sixteen!  ;D

Honestly though, with today's ammo can't go wrong with a 20 gauge for a lady.
Title: Stuck between a 12 and 20 for new turkey gun
Post by: TauntoHawk on March 17, 2016, 10:56:21 PM
Ordered a fast fire III for it, between it being on sale, a promo I had and some points I picked it up for$160 now I just need to call William at sumtoy

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