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Title: Too faded?
Post by: tha bugman on February 16, 2016, 09:39:37 AM
Is this camo too faded?(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160216/d78e5e66b9cafbb5650d8fcba587e70e.jpg)


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Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: GobbleNut on February 16, 2016, 09:50:27 AM
The question is not so much one of whether it is faded too much to be used, but where you would use it.  It's pretty obvious that it does not blend well with the background in the photo, so if the vegetation where you hunt is consistently like that, I would choose something else.  However, there are plenty of places where that camo pattern, faded or not, would work perfectly well. 
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: HFultzjr on February 16, 2016, 09:52:25 AM
Does look a bit "brighter" against that background anyways.
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: wvmntnhick on February 16, 2016, 09:53:43 AM
Just wear them.
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: paboxcall on February 16, 2016, 10:00:49 AM
I would not wear them in that environment.  I had a pair of Woolrich heavy chamois cargo pants in the old grey-based Advantage pattern.  My favorite pants, perfect for cool mornings.  They faded over the years, and had a hen, jake and gobbler come in and bust me immediately - I was set up against a dark black cherry trunk in some hemlocks - way too dark - and stuck out like a sore thumb.

Camo - they make tens of thousands of garments everyday.  Sales across the internet everyday.  Buying new that's color appropriate for your region of the country is cheap and easy way to remove any risk of something not being right.
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: stinkpickle on February 16, 2016, 11:07:08 AM
Are you using some fine UV brighteners?  ;)
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: Spitten and drummen on February 16, 2016, 11:45:11 AM
it does appear to have a sheen to it. remember there have been 1000s of turkeys killed by old men in denim overalls. the key is being very still. I know you know this , but I would probably buy new camo. then again, I buy more for no reason. I think it really isn't necessary unless you have the extra funds. just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: SteelerFan on February 16, 2016, 12:21:04 PM
Depends on who's asking? If it's the wife? Absolutely too faded! Turkeys will see it a mile away! The more they see it, the harder it will be to kill one. The harder it is to kill one, the more days and days you'll have to spend in the woods trying to fill your tags. To have any hope of killing a turkey, you'll have to break down and at least buy 1, maybe 2 pairs of new pants...

If it's just you asking? You can get by...
Title: Too faded?
Post by: southern_leo on February 16, 2016, 12:26:03 PM
I had to fork out the money for bottomland in case they discontinue again. Hopefully throughout the year I'll buy a few more pieces. I don't have any until my order gets here. I'm pumped. Go on Amazon they have good prices on camo if you shop around.

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Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: redmag on February 16, 2016, 12:44:52 PM
Don't get me wrong, I use camo and try to blend in.  Just don't move when they can see you as another poster said.  Doesn't matter he'll see you if he is close enough to pick up the movement and maybe more so if your camo is marginal.  I think some of the leafy suits would work well because if you do move a little it is kind of concealed as natural leaf/bush movement in the breeze.  I know of a few bird that have been called right up to pickup trucks.  Remember the old butterscotch colored Chevy truck?
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: stringtalker on February 16, 2016, 01:17:45 PM
I use to buy camo year after year for chasing those gobblers. But I don't anymore. If fading is the issue, buy camo that is mostly polyester, it want fade or shrink. But the best thing I have found is a leafy suite. A member on here gave me one and I will never use anything else for turkey hunting
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: shaman on February 16, 2016, 02:07:02 PM
A handy tip for faded camo:

Get some green or brown RIT dye and dye the faded clothes.  You don't have to do a fantastic job, just put some color back where it  was ost.  The end result will be the camo pattern will be a bit muted, but it won't stand out as much as it did.

Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: grayfox on February 16, 2016, 03:03:05 PM
Gamehide Clever cloth.  Fading problems will be solved.  Been wearing them for both turkey & deer hunting for the past 4 years with no fading & many washings.
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: silvestris on February 16, 2016, 03:55:09 PM
Shine is what you want to avoid.
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: CrustyRusty on February 16, 2016, 05:41:30 PM
I hate to admit it, but I rarely wash my turkey hunting clothes.  It keeps the colors looking good and helps keep bugs and my wife away  :z-guntootsmiley:
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: Clovis67 on February 16, 2016, 06:48:33 PM
Leafy wear...it's the stuff you need to wear when turkey hunting...or any other type of hunting....you can't believe what this stuff can do for you.
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: grayfox on February 16, 2016, 07:07:48 PM
Quote from: Clovis67 on February 16, 2016, 06:48:33 PM
Leafy wear...it's the stuff you need to wear when turkey hunting...or any other type of hunting....you can't believe what this stuff can do for you.

X2
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: redmag on February 16, 2016, 07:40:27 PM
That's funny Treerooster.
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: shaman on February 17, 2016, 08:20:42 AM
That's old Kelly Kooper camo, isn't it?   That used to be my favorite back in the mid-90's. 
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: rbreedi1 on February 17, 2016, 09:34:11 AM
If it was me, I would buy another pair. Too bright for my liking and doesn't really blend in
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: Neill_Prater on February 17, 2016, 09:44:51 AM
Quote from: shaman on February 16, 2016, 02:07:02 PM
A handy tip for faded camo:

Get some green or brown RIT dye and dye the faded clothes.  You don't have to do a fantastic job, just put some color back where it  was ost.  The end result will be the camo pattern will be a bit muted, but it won't stand out as much as it did.

I did this years ago with a couple of pairs of cotton pants, and managed to get a couple more years out of them.
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: shaman on February 17, 2016, 10:10:35 AM
I just use the RIT Dye in the washing machine.  You start the smallest load setting possible on HOT/COLD.  Put in the dye after the water fills. Then put in the clothing. After 5 minutes of agitation,  I turn it of and just let it sit for 30 minutes or so, and then turn the washer back on and let it finish the cycle.  After that, I do another cycle with the clothing still in on COLD/COLD to make sure both the fabric and the washing machine are cleaned out and there is no residual die.

Old camo comes out muted, but still usable. 
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: tha bugman on February 17, 2016, 11:37:39 AM
Asked The Boss Hen to dye some rope in the washing machine not too long ago....the expression on her face was priceless....as if to ask...Dear God what is this crazy man going to ask me to do next? ;D
Quote from: shaman on February 17, 2016, 10:10:35 AM
I just use the RIT Dye in the washing machine.  You start the smallest load setting possible on HOT/COLD.  Put in the dye after the water fills. Then put in the clothing. After 5 minutes of agitation,  I turn it of and just let it sit for 30 minutes or so, and then turn the washer back on and let it finish the cycle.  After that, I do another cycle with the clothing still in on COLD/COLD to make sure both the fabric and the washing machine are cleaned out and there is no residual die.

Old camo comes out muted, but still usable.
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: CrustyRusty on February 17, 2016, 12:57:02 PM
Yep, them too!   :funnyturkey:

Quote from: Treerooster on February 16, 2016, 05:50:36 PM
Quote from: CrustyRusty on February 16, 2016, 05:41:30 PM
I hate to admit it, but I rarely wash my turkey hunting clothes.  It keeps the colors looking good and helps keep bugs and my wife away  :z-guntootsmiley:

What about flys?   ;D
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: redmag on February 17, 2016, 01:02:16 PM
For Grayfox,   Where do you get the Gamehide that you like?  I've looked and don't see it.   Thanks
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: decoykrvr on February 17, 2016, 01:24:35 PM
Take the camo clothes into the woods (both in shadows and sun) back up and give them a look.  If they have a light (whitish) effect, it's due to the light knap of the fabric where the camo printing has been abraded.  Dye outside in a 5 gallon bucket w/ RIT olive drab dye in hot water.  Stir it often w/ an old broom stick, then put a garden hose in the bucket drained of the dye and rinse, stirring occasionally, until the water comes out clear.  DO NOT put dye in your washer, your asking for trouble.  I know!!
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: THattaway on February 17, 2016, 02:20:34 PM
Quote from: CrustyRusty on February 16, 2016, 05:41:30 PM
I hate to admit it, but I rarely wash my turkey hunting clothes.  It keeps the colors looking good and helps keep bugs and my wife away  :z-guntootsmiley:
I get two full days or 4 half days worth of hunting in on a suit of camo during turkey season before they are washed. Scent control ain't a consideration then and the turkeys don't seem to mind a bit.

Movement is probably more of a factor than anything when getting noticed by turkeys but standing out in faded out clothing sure can't help you any. I try to blend in as best I can, if nothing more it gives me a confidence boost. Optimism sure seems to help me kill more turkeys.
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: tha bugman on February 17, 2016, 05:11:50 PM
yep thats it!  Its a pair of coveralls I use for general purposes to slide over my work clothes.  Guess I am going to retire them, picked up a pair of Ol' Tom technical turkey pants today that are large enough to do the same thing.
Quote from: shaman on February 17, 2016, 08:20:42 AM
That's old Kelly Kooper camo, isn't it?   That used to be my favorite back in the mid-90's.
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: Dr Juice on February 23, 2016, 07:17:41 PM
Absolutely. I would invest into a new outfit.
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: Gobble! on February 23, 2016, 07:35:32 PM
Just don't move.
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: tha bugman on February 24, 2016, 09:41:23 AM
Passing it on.  I got a new set of Ol Tom Bottomland big enough to slip over my work clothes. :newmascot:
Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: Fan Club on February 25, 2016, 10:58:07 PM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on February 16, 2016, 11:45:11 AM
Remember there have been 1000s of turkeys killed by old men in denim overalls. the key is being very still.

We have a winner. Turkeys key on movement and you can kill a gobbler in your bath robe if you can hold still. They were whackin' gobs long before camo was invented. Every now and then I'll pull some 20 year old faded camo out of my closet and tag a tom in it just to prove this point to myself. By the way, 20 years would be right in the ball park of that Kelly Cooper Tru-Leaf you're wearin'.  ;)

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Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: tha bugman on February 26, 2016, 09:44:57 AM
Quote from: Fan Club on February 25, 2016, 10:58:07 PM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on February 16, 2016, 11:45:11 AM
Remember there have been 1000s of turkeys killed by old men in denim overalls. the key is being very still.

We have a winner. Turkeys key on movement and you can kill a gobbler in your bath robe if you can hold still. They were whackin' gobs long before camo was invented. Every now and then I'll pull some 20 year old faded camo out of my closet and tag a tom in it just to prove this point to myself. By the way, 20 years would be right in the ball park of that Kelly Cooper Tru-Leaf you're wearin'.  ;) I better hang onto it then I need all the help I can get!   ;D

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Title: Re: Too faded?
Post by: WyoHunter on February 27, 2016, 04:26:40 PM
Even though I'm very conscious about matching my camo to the area I'll be hunting it's movement that will give you away more than anything. With faded or camo that's not right for the area I'm hunting I'd setup in some place in the shadow of a tree or anyplace out of direct sunlight. Be prepared when that gobbler shows his head and you'll do fine.