Before he can see you set up?
Roosting evening before is out of the.question, it won't work.
Thanks.
Only a realistic imitation of a Barred Owl, and not much of that.
Some places you can make them gobble well before daylight,...sometimes an hour or more. Other places,...not so much. It seems to vary somewhat by location and subspecies. I have found that Easterns are less likely to gobble in the dark, but under the right circumstances, even they can be coaxed into gobbling quite early, giving you plenty of time to move in on them in the dark.
The one thing that I have found in my many years of traveling around the country is that your locator call, whatever it is, needs to be very loud and abrupt. A very loud, abrupt noise will often pull an automatic shock response from a gobbler when a less loud sound will not. A few days of before-daylight trial and error in the area you hunt should give you a good idea of whether or not the gobblers you are hunting are willing to talk in the mornings, and how early, and how much.
Most of the time before light breaks, Barred Owl and a Coyote Howler work for me.
MK M GOBL
Coyote howls. I've heard them gobble at coyotes in the middle of the night from my sleeping bag, believe it or not. I don't like the idea of letting them know there's a predator in the neighborhood and I wouldn't set up anywhere close to where I howled from, but it does work. Owling is probably safer.
I don't try to elicit a gobble in the dark, and rarely call before the birds open up on their own, but that's just me. :z-twocents:
Bob
I hesitated to mention this, but you'd be surprised what a shotgun blast will do in some instances. If you think about it, It's probably no different than a loud clap of thunder to the birds. I'm not talking about sneaking in close to where you think, or know birds are roosted and touching one off, but under the right circumstances and from a distance, you might be surprised.
Ok, let me have it, lol. ;D
Bob
Quote from: OldSchool on February 14, 2016, 09:02:16 AM
I hesitated to mention this, but you'd be surprised what a shotgun blast will do in some instances. If you think about it, It's probably no different than a loud clap of thunder to the birds. I'm not talking about sneaking in close to where you think, or know birds are roosted and touching one off, but under the right circumstances and from a distance, you might be surprised.
Ok, let me have it, lol. ;D
Bob
LOL! I ran into a guy down in Alabama that was doing this... I asked him "What the..." as I was hunting the same area and he said he was "SHOT gobbling" I scratched my head on that one at the time...
Good idea Bob, I'm on my way to State Line Fireworks! Next time I go to this farm I'll have pocket full of M-80s :TooFunny:
Just kidding..but I have tried the truck horn method.
Marlon
Quote from: Flounder on February 14, 2016, 10:08:45 AM
Good idea Bob, I'm on my way to State Line Fireworks! Next time I go to this farm I'll have pocket full of M-80s :TooFunny:
Just kidding..but I have tried the truck horn method.
Marlon
Quote from: MK M GOBL on February 14, 2016, 10:07:04 AM
Quote from: OldSchool on February 14, 2016, 09:02:16 AM
I hesitated to mention this, but you'd be surprised what a shotgun blast will do in some instances. If you think about it, It's probably no different than a loud clap of thunder to the birds. I'm not talking about sneaking in close to where you think, or know birds are roosted and touching one off, but under the right circumstances and from a distance, you might be surprised.
Ok, let me have it, lol. ;D
Bob
LOL! I ran into a guy down in Alabama that was doing this... I asked him "What the..." as I was hunting the same area and he said he was "SHOT gobbling" I scratched my head on that one at the time...
I hunted one morning from before light till noon and didn't hear a gobble. A buddy wanted to pattern a new gun, so he came over and we went out back to shoot it. Set up the pattern board and he touched one off. Three different birds gobbled back from the ridges I'd been hunting an hour before.
I don't want to give anybody the impression that I walk around the woods shooting my gun in hopes a bird will fire back, but I did file the info away and I've used it once or twice over the years under dire circumstances. ;D
Bob
Quote from: GobbleNut on February 13, 2016, 11:36:45 PM
Some places you can make them gobble well before daylight,...sometimes an hour or more. Other places,...not so much. It seems to vary somewhat by location and subspecies. I have found that Easterns are less likely to gobble in the dark, but under the right circumstances, even they can be coaxed into gobbling quite early, giving you plenty of time to move in on them in the dark.
I have had good luck with a (can owl hooter) and sometimes a gobble on a box call. early as 4:00a.m. In WV and VA
:OGturkeyhead: :OGturkeyhead:
I ha e seen alot of tho on clear creek wma,shooting to find gobblers,they have come onto my setup shooting, never heard one gobble I know they spook more than they find, please stop, is that you leaving piles of dove loads empties on hilltops, please stop :OGturkeyhead: :fud:
Quote from: hotspur on February 15, 2016, 03:32:28 PM
I ha e seen alot of tho on clear creek wma,shooting to find gobblers,they have come onto my setup shooting, never heard one gobble I know they spook more than they find, please stop, is that you leaving piles of dove loads empties on hilltops, please stop :OGturkeyhead: :fud:
When I wrote that I was trying to be funny more than anything else. I have tried it twice in 35 years, but I only did it in a place where nobody else had permission to be and I never leave my empties, or anything else behind. ;)
Bob
I thought it was fricking hilarious Bob. I think if we've been around a little in the turkey woods we have heard other gobblers sound off on the shot. Car horns, air horns, peacocks, etc. Slam the truck door. Sudden noise makes em gobble. :newmascot:
I just listen...the less he's aware of any presence the better
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Hunted a ranch with peacocks, and our presence would light up the peacocks, which would in turn light up the turkeys.
Someone lit up a quad last year very early, and that got some gobblers started...
Multiple times a car door slamming, or a dog barking will light up a gobbler.
Once in a great while an owl call will elicit a gobble early.
One time I was hunting a small ranch, and on the neighboring property, apparently there was a marital dispute, which made a bird gobble.
When we hunted in MS, we had a small tract of land closer to our camp that we could hunt but had only seen birds in there a handful of times. Normally they were across the road in the bigger tract next to the forest.
Well one season we were pulling into the camp the afternoon before the opener and saw a tom and two hens out past the camp a hundred yards or so.
The next morning, my dad wakes up about an hour earlier than normal, walks outside, grabs two 2x4 pieces and slams them together on the porch. A bird sounds off and he doesn't sound far. He leans his head back in the camper and says, we are hunting behind the camp this morning. He ended up killing the bird that morning not long after daybreak when he pitched down off the roost.
Quote from: OldSchool on February 14, 2016, 09:02:16 AM
I hesitated to mention this, but you'd be surprised what a shotgun blast will do in some instances. If you think about it, It's probably no different than a loud clap of thunder to the birds. I'm not talking about sneaking in close to where you think, or know birds are roosted and touching one off, but under the right circumstances and from a distance, you might be surprised.
Ok, let me have it, lol. ;D
Bob
anything that works! My uncles favorite locater is beating his hands on the roof or hood of the car. Works as good as any store bought locater that I ever had!
I use a locator call as a last resort. I listen for them to gobble on their own. If they don't then I will resort to locators. My favorite is the Primos "Power" Crow.
Before first dawn coyote howler...no luck with hootin stick till first light....better luck at dusk evening before with a howler