Foolproof vs World Champion? And why?
Also eyed the Cody box calls. I originally posted this in call subforums but it's not very active over there only had a couple replys.
Like any other call. Run them both if possible.
Then pick the call that gives you the sound that you are wanting.
I have two old Lynch box calls that belonged to my Dad. Both calls are Champion calls.
Both sound great and have called in a pile of turkey
Thanks. I'd love to buy both but I'm just getting into turkey hunting so already spending a bit on other goodies and trying to be somewhat conservative so the wife doesn't get too mad
If your just starting, the Fool Proof cannot be beat. I have had one since my hunting career started and it hunts alot with me. Like the name says it's fool proof and easy to run.
Both calls sound great,but for a beginner turkey hunter I would definitely go with the fool proof. Very easy to run.
My first box call was a old fool proof great box call...i also have a hand me down champion i carry every season just like my old Remington 870..Both are good box calls...Get you some rain chalk and your good to go..
So far looks like fool proof has the lead
I've never owned a World Champion but do have a Fool Proof that was made in Liberty, MS and it's a great call. I don't use box calls much but it does stay in my vest for most of the season.
I like the World Champion because I can gobble on it. I took mine out of my call storage and into the vest last night!
Hey guys talking about the lynch box call's is it the number 8 rubber band that fits these box calls?
Allen Jenkins did a decent job after he bought the company from M.L. But Lynch is now a turn um out outfit. Doesn't mean you can't get a great sounding caller, but I want to hands on any box that I purchase. I have my ear on a Barefoot Box, but I have to find a reason to go to Jackson for some hands on. He has a couple of sound files on Facebook under "Barefoot's Boxes".
I agree silvestris ... the 2 lynch box calls i have are very old..I have helped call makers in the past at the NWTF convention. and we would have a table full of box calls and it was always fun to watch people hand pick a box call that sounded the best to them...It's all about the sound your looking for ...
Quote from: Greg Massey on February 03, 2016, 11:51:25 AM
I agree silvestris ... the 2 lynch box calls i have are very old..I have helped call makers in the past at the NWTF convention. and we would have a table full of box calls and it was always fun to watch people hand pick a box call that sounded the best to them...It's all about the sound your looking for ...
some folks hear different things....as long as you got rhythm... :jackson:
Ok I'm about to open a big opinion box....what sound should I be looking for in a box? I've heard a lot now some high pitched that don't even sound like a turkey imo and others that sound nice and deep. But I don't care what I think sounds good I want something that works. I'm starting to think turkey calls are like fishing lures. Everyone gets what looks good to them but that doesn't mean it will look good to a fish. I'm thinking call sounds are the same way. I'm new so don't beat me up if I'm wrong lol. Also seems that in pressured woods less popular calls yield good results i.e. tube calls. Maybe due to educated birds? I'm going to the convention and feel like I'll gain a lot of knowledge. So what sounds should I look for? Looking for a few good reliable calls.
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Personally, i wouldn't own one. Too many other box calls out there that have superior sound quality.
Quote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on February 03, 2016, 07:01:47 PM
Personally, i wouldn't own one. Too many other box calls out there that have superior sound quality.
What's your preference?
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Personally, I've seen high dollars calls that sound like crap also..It all has to do with volume of the call and how it sounds. It can be a 10 dollar box call or a 100 dollar box call it's what you like in the sound..
Quote from: southern_leo on February 03, 2016, 08:50:33 PM
Quote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on February 03, 2016, 07:01:47 PM
Personally, i wouldn't own one. Too many other box calls out there that have superior sound quality.
What's your preference?
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Robert Clifft single sider for $60, wood haven builds a mean Gibson style box call and the hooks box call will sing a mean tune, as well.
I've never heard or played a recent lunch box that had quality roll over. They've all sounded very nasally and produced far better gobbler yelps than actual hen yelps even after tuning.
Quote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on February 03, 2016, 10:52:18 PM
Quote from: southern_leo on February 03, 2016, 08:50:33 PM
Quote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on February 03, 2016, 07:01:47 PM
Personally, i wouldn't own one. Too many other box calls out there that have superior sound quality.
What's your preference?
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Robert Clifft single sider for $60, wood haven builds a mean Gibson style box call and the hooks box call will sing a mean tune, as well.
I've never heard or played a recent lunch box that had quality roll over. They've all sounded very nasally and produced far better gobbler yelps than actual hen yelps even after tuning.
A custom call would be cool. Is Robert Clifft gonna be at the convention this year? I live in Tn so supporting locals is also good.
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Quote from: southern_leo on February 03, 2016, 06:59:26 PM
I'm going to the convention and feel like I'll gain a lot of knowledge.
Big mistake. Get some earbuds and an MP3 player and turn Lil Bow Wow up real loud while at the convention. You will hear the most outlandish sounds at the convention and you run the risk of some of those sounds finding their way into your signature where it can be almost impossible to get rid of them. Listen only to Wild Turkey recordings and mimic those sounds exactly for insured success.
Quote from: silvestris on February 04, 2016, 08:24:15 AM
Quote from: southern_leo on February 03, 2016, 06:59:26 PM
I'm going to the convention and feel like I'll gain a lot of knowledge.
Big mistake. Get some earbuds and an MP3 player and turn Lil Bow Wow up real loud while at the convention. You will hear the most outlandish sounds at the convention and you run the risk of some of those sounds finding their way into your signature where it can be almost impossible to get rid of them. Listen only to Wild Turkey recordings and mimic those sounds exactly for insured success.
Lol good idea
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Quote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on February 03, 2016, 07:01:47 PM
Personally, i wouldn't own one. Too many other box calls out there that have superior sound quality.
im glad I got the only good one. at least the 37 gobblers I killed with mine agrees. like any calls , it comes down to confidence in what you are using. also we get hung up on what we like , but really need to focus on what they like. its not always the same thing. I have a killer pot call that personally I don't like the sound of. a buddy used it and killed a bird with it , so I got it back and tried to give it a fair shake. all I can say is im glad I did. there is a handful of birds that wished I wouldn't have lol.
I am not going to say yes or no on the Lynch Box calls, but if your looking at custom box calls as well, you may want to look at Spring Creek Turkey Calls also. I have a long and short box and they are great sounding and have called in numerous birds over the years. Just my :z-twocents:
Ive done well w/ the raspy hen, not made anymore. Mike
Still fairly new to turkey hunting and not the best caller. I have an old Foolproof and a World Champion. I do better with the Foolproof, but carry the Champion for a different sound and it will gobble.
Last year I heard a hunter nearby making the most god awful turkey sounds. Really going crazy for several minutes. Thought he was going to scare away every turkey that could hear him. A few minutes later a hen walked out into the pipeline right where the calling was coming from. That taught me a lesson.
The modern Lynch calls are not tuned well right out of the box and the price has creeped up on them to the point that there are many other options.
I bought one of the modern Foolproof one-siders a while back because I cannot find and old one. It was hard to close the deal on a Liberty made box on e-bait, so I gave it a shot. A couple of older friends have Liberty boxes and they still kill birds. So we got their boxes and some sandpaper out and worked on the new one until we got it tuned.
I hunted with one of the guys after that and he realized he had forgotten his Foolproof, which he is very good in running, and I loaned him mine and observed. It worked well and he thought it worked out as well as his usual Liberty box, which he had gotten in the 70's or 80's.
A one side Foolproof is another tool in the chest. It is not always the one they want to hear, but no call is. But it will still kill turkeys.
IMO, there is a better approach to buying a call than buying something you know you'll have to mess with a hour or two right out of the box to get tuned correctly.
Lonnie Mabry's calls are an excellent value, even if you have to drive a little while to get to his shop. You can spend the money once with him and get a call that will last a lifetime, plus the instruction, and then go back and get a few more to round out your options. His short box calls are $50 and his pot calls are $25 with two strikers.
Google it> Whitepages.com--Lonnie Mabry--Canton, GA
My Confidence or Quality of Call, but I have killed plenty of gobblers responding to my Lynch FP. To the point that most of my handmade custom box calls are mainly shelf displays.
Quote from: brittman on February 08, 2016, 03:10:45 PM
My Confidence or Quality of Call, but I have killed plenty of gobblers responding to my Lynch FP. To the point that most of my handmade custom box calls are mainly shelf displays.
An older call from Liberty, MS or a newer call from the LLC in Thomasville, GA that succeed Alan Jenkins?
I called in and killed several gobblers with my old Lynch World Champion. I slipped on a rock crossing a creek one morning in 1988 and landed on the box, which broke the side. It was done and I never found another old Lynch that matched the sound I liked.
Hens have different voices & tones, but in my opinion the most important thing you can learn is getting the proper rhythm and cadence to your calling.
I was set up on a gobbler one morning, waiting for him to fly down before I started calling to him. When all of a sudden the worst sounding hen I ever heard started heading up the ridge behind me from the neighbor's property. I was quite sure the other hunter was going to bust that gobbler off the roost and end it for both of us. Pretty soon the gobbler was on the ground and I decided to try to call him towards me before that fool ruined the hunt. The instant I started calling, the other hunter crossed onto my lease and was coming up right behind me, calling as he came. Now I was beginning to fear getting shot by a trespasser. The gobbler appeared 30 yards in front of me and I dropped the hammer on him before he could spook. As soon as I shot, the other hunter that turned out to be a live hen, busted out from behind me and flew right over my head. I know my calling won't win any contests on the stage, but it works good enough to fool enough turkeys. It is not always what you say, but how you say it.
Jim