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Title: 3rd Degree and ulti-full choke
Post by: agent eight seven O on January 31, 2016, 08:42:34 AM
   Could I shoot Federal 3rd Degree shells through a lead only ulti-full choke in my 835?
Title: Re: 3rd Degree and ulti-full choke
Post by: dirt road ninja on January 31, 2016, 09:39:32 AM
Would be a good idea to use an HTL approved choke.
Title: Re: 3rd Degree and ulti-full choke
Post by: turkeywhisperer935 on January 31, 2016, 11:26:22 PM
I don't see that it would really hurt anything. I know guy's that do.
Title: Re: 3rd Degree and ulti-full choke
Post by: worth612000 on February 01, 2016, 12:45:01 AM
If you don't mind shelling out the money for a new barrel if something does go wrong. If it's not rated for that shot no manufacturers will stand behind it. It's a pulling teeth thing when something happens and it is rated for it.
Title: Re: 3rd Degree and ulti-full choke
Post by: turkeywhisperer935 on February 01, 2016, 02:35:53 AM
I thought 3'rd degree's was copper plated lead.
Title: Re: 3rd Degree and ulti-full choke
Post by: dirt road ninja on February 01, 2016, 07:14:16 AM
Quote from: turkeywhisperer935 on February 01, 2016, 02:35:53 AM
I thought 3'rd degree's was copper plated lead.

It's a blend that does contain some heavyweight.
Title: Re: 3rd Degree and ulti-full choke
Post by: agent eight seven O on February 01, 2016, 01:20:59 PM
   I have a tightwad and SSX for the 835. With the flight control wad, it is hard to find a compatible choke. How about a factory full rated for steel shot?
Title: Re: 3rd Degree and ulti-full choke
Post by: dirt road ninja on February 01, 2016, 02:09:46 PM
Quote from: agent eight seven O on February 01, 2016, 01:20:59 PM
   I have a tightwad and SSX for the 835. With the flight control wad, it is hard to find a compatible choke. How about a factory full rated for steel shot?

That would be fine.
Title: Re: 3rd Degree and ulti-full choke
Post by: allaboutshooting on February 01, 2016, 05:51:49 PM
Quote from: agent eight seven O on February 01, 2016, 01:20:59 PM
   I have a tightwad and SSX for the 835. With the flight control wad, it is hard to find a compatible choke. How about a factory full rated for steel shot?

You've had very good advice about chokes and tungsten-based shot. The SSX does well with the 3rd Degree shells.

It's very important when evaluating the patterns with this shell to remember what the designer intended. It is intended to provide killing patterns at most reasonable ranges, including close (25 yards or less) and far (40 yards).

It's not mean to turn in the 10" numbers at 40 yards that you'll see from some shells but it never throws a "baseball" sized pattern, even at 25 yards. It's also important to look at the 20" patterns. They are often referred to as "halo" patterns.

Here's a link to the work that I did with those shells http://allaboutshooting.com/blogs/blog/98747719-federal-3rd-degree-evaluation-additional-information

You can see some actual patterns and a more detailed write-up of of those shells here http://allaboutshooting.com/blogs/blog/98747783-federal-3rd-degree-evaluation

Perspective is very important when evaluating these shells.

Thanks,
Clark