Ive been trying to use mouth calls for the last 3 years now and I still am terrible. Ive watched Shane Simpson video, Scott Ellis video, and others and still sound like garbage. Prob couldnt even call in a coyote with the sounds I am making. Anyone else have these problems or am I just a lone wolf?
In the last 20+ years of selling, seminars and instruction I would say a mouth call is the hardest to learn an master for most. Other people take to it like a duck on water, I was able to "call" with it after an hour... this means make some sounds. Took me a good year to really get it down to where I didn't have to think about what I needed to do to call with it. Cool deal with it is no motion when birds are close, don't have to have a call in hand with bow or gun and I can run a slate call at the same time and sound like multiple birds. Perseverance is the biggest key, I do trim my calls to fit my mouth ( have you tried using a plain 2 reed to start?), best thing you might do is have someone who is proficient with the sit with you in person and help you a long and don't try to learn everything at once, learn one call then move on. Once mastered there isn't much you can't do. Coyote calling, Elk calling and pretty much everything a turkey says, yup I can Gobble on it too!
MK M GOBL
Quote from: MK M GOBL on January 18, 2016, 11:06:59 PM
In the last 20+ years of selling, seminars and instruction I would say a mouth call is the hardest to learn an master for most. Other people take to it like a duck on water, I was able to "call" with it after an hour... this means make some sounds. Took me a good year to really get it down to where I didn't have to think about what I needed to do to call with it. Cool deal with it is no motion when birds are close, don't have to have a call in hand with bow or gun and I can run a slate call at the same time and sound like multiple birds. Perseverance is the biggest key, I do trim my calls to fit my mouth ( have you tried using a plain 2 reed to start?), best thing you might do is have someone who is proficient with the sit with you in person and help you a long and don't try to learn everything at once, learn one call then move on. Once mastered there isn't much you can't do. Coyote calling, Elk calling and pretty much everything a turkey says, yup I can Gobble on it too!
MK M GOBL
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I got to where I am making sound. In my head it sounds like a yelp but when i record it and listen back it sounds like crap. I think I had tried a 2 reed and know I have tried 3 with several different cuts. I guess its like you say Ill just have to keep at it and get someone who knows what there doing to walk me through it
Get an easy to run call, most Hooks are. I'm sure other companies make em easy to run too. Takes many guys lots of practice n that's why most guys use em. You earn it
Jwall same here and I get er done w/o em. Gave up on ever getting there and work to my strengths. I can work a pot call though and a few others, see my reply to smalls on this topic and good luck to you this spring.
Another thing with all the say this word say that word, all they are trying to do is teach you jaw motion which relates to tongue pressure against the reeds. Also how you shape your mouth and how you release air from your diaphragm. Even if you only learn soft clucks, purrs and yelps you can close the deal on them longbeards. With out trying to make a "turkey" sound are you able to hit a range of tones from high to lows?
MK M GOBL
Quote from: MK M GOBL on January 19, 2016, 09:33:38 PM
Another thing with all the say this word say that word, all they are trying to do is teach you jaw motion which relates to tongue pressure against the reeds. Also how you shape your mouth and how you release air from your diaphragm. Even if you only learn soft clucks, purrs and yelps you can close the deal on them longbeards. With out trying to make a "turkey" sound are you able to hit a range of tones from high to lows?
MK M GOBL
As far as high and low tones, not really. Plus I dont think my calls from last year are good anymore because I tried to practice with them yesterday but they are stiff and reeds dont seem to be vibrating like they should. I am thinking of ordering some hooks calls or will prob just get them at the NWTF convention in a couple weeks
So to hit "ranges" on the call, have you ever played any type of "air" blown musical instrument? For me to change tones I am doing a few different things, placement of tongue on reed, whether my tongue is flat or only partially on the call and air pressure.
You will need to learn that part to get to the others. I think it's easiest to learn on a 2 reed...
MK M GOBL
The two instructional videos that you mentioned are very good and cover every aspect of mouth calling.
Mouth calls are so user specific, when I say that I mean, what I sound great on, the next guy might sound horrible on. I sell a ton of Batwing calls, but I wouldn't carry one with me to save my life, I sound horrible on them!! Ghost and Combo cuts are what work for me.
Having good calls to learn on helps. There is a ton of trash out there!! but there are also some guys that are building some really good mouth calls.