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Title: Index or Bird Finger?
Post by: Westernmassman on January 08, 2016, 11:49:29 AM
Practicing with my first trumpet call. Is there an advantage to using the index finger vs the bird finger, or does it come down to personal preference and hand size? thanks
Title: Re: Index or Bird Finger?
Post by: guesswho on January 08, 2016, 11:58:07 AM
I think it's a personal preference issue.  I use my middle finger.  Seems more natural and easier for me to control.  As far as advantages and disadvantages I don't think there are any.   
Title: Index or Bird Finger?
Post by: 762 on January 09, 2016, 07:15:40 AM
I use my index finger on one of mine and middle on the other one that I have.
Title: Re: Index or Bird Finger?
Post by: worth612000 on January 09, 2016, 07:37:20 AM
That's funny sort of, due to I never thought about it. I use my middle finger due to it happens to be in the right place for me. Del Crow "savduck" has a great video that teaches trumpet call playing and how to hold the trumpet call.

http://youtu.be/h9xqrwAGYmU

Advance Calling

http://youtu.be/WpAMClA7jB8
Title: Re: Index or Bird Finger?
Post by: M Sharpe on January 09, 2016, 08:19:34 AM
I don't use any up in the barrel. I just lay my fingers across the opening, back way off the pressure and maintain lip tension.
Title: Index or Bird Finger?
Post by: 762 on January 09, 2016, 09:20:13 AM
Some of us have little short sausage fingers and can't run one one handed Mark.:D
Title: Re: Index or Bird Finger?
Post by: nitro on January 09, 2016, 10:02:44 AM
 IMHO, a man should not use a finger in the barrel of the call period.

Make a good consistent sound chamber with one hand and learn to control the draw of air into the instrument .

This is how I was taught and most of the highly skilled trumpet players I know use this method ..but, whatever works ..some folks use two hands and sound "ok"
Title: Re: Index or Bird Finger?
Post by: callmakerman on January 09, 2016, 10:44:24 AM
Quote from: M Sharpe on January 09, 2016, 08:19:34 AM
I don't use any up in the barrel. I just lay my fingers across the opening, back way off the pressure and maintain lip tension.
Same for me.
Title: Index or Bird Finger?
Post by: drenalinld on January 09, 2016, 10:33:37 PM
No fingers in or across the opening for me. Just a chamber mostly closed off.
Title: Re: Index or Bird Finger?
Post by: savduck on January 09, 2016, 11:11:37 PM
I use my index finger some, middle finger some, fat of the palm of my hand some. Sometimes my finger is slightly in the trumpet, sometimes it's just across the opening. Depends on the trumpet and what it takes to get good back pressure for your draw and good tone. Sometimes it's more about comfort. Some calls bells are wider, flared, curved, etc.

Use what your comfortable with and practice.
Title: Re: Index or Bird Finger?
Post by: outdoors on January 10, 2016, 08:53:10 AM
I HAVE AGREE WITH SAVDUCK I JUST COULDN'T PUT IN ALL THOSE WORDS
DIFFERENT PRESSURE DIFFERENT TONE OR SOUND ....... NOT THE BIRD FINGER ........
Title: Re: Index or Bird Finger?
Post by: Westernmassman on January 10, 2016, 12:32:55 PM
Thanks for the input and especially the links!  Got a long way to go before I will sound that good!
Title: Re: Index or Bird Finger?
Post by: KPcalls on January 12, 2016, 09:41:09 AM
 I use my middle finger to adjust the flow of air to various degrees on the outside of the bell of the call. All of my calling is done with one hand unless I'm looking for high volume trying to strike a bird.
Title: Re: Index or Bird Finger?
Post by: The Cohutta Strutter on January 23, 2016, 01:59:10 PM
Western, just something else for you to play around with. With a 2 hand hold and slightly opened at the bottom bring your arms down onto your chest keeping the bell of the call 3 or so inches off you chest. With a little practice you can get some pretty loud and sharp cutting that way. The volume picks way up and seems to bounce off your chest but can always be toned done and I'm sure there are folks that run them entirely that way. I watched a well known call maker run his trumpet and it was close to his chest and at a very low volume for our ears anyway. I think your gonna have a blast with your trumpet.
Title: Re: Index or Bird Finger?
Post by: davisd9 on February 26, 2016, 09:11:41 AM
KP showed me his technique of playing one handed yesterday.  I have practiced a bit using his one handed method and I think I am getting the hang of it. Need to relax my hand some. Got some practicing to do but I think I will get there.  If I can get half as good at it as KP then I will be just fine.  His soft clucks drug a gobble out of me.
Title: Re: Index or Bird Finger?
Post by: nitro on February 26, 2016, 09:34:35 AM
I only have two hands. In a hunting situation, one hand is controlling my shotgun, and the other is being used to control the trumpet call.. ( maybe I'm doing it wrong)..  :toothy9:

Whatever works..
Title: Re: Index or Bird Finger?
Post by: 762 on February 26, 2016, 01:42:54 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on February 26, 2016, 09:11:41 AM
KP showed me his technique of playing one handed yesterday.  I have practiced a bit using his one handed method and I think I am getting the hang of it. Need to relax my hand some. Got some practicing to do but I think I will get there.  If I can get half as good at it as KP then I will be just fine.  His soft clucks drug a gobble out of me.
The sound file you sent me yesterday sounded great, especially the second one.
Title: Re: Index or Bird Finger?
Post by: M Sharpe on February 26, 2016, 02:16:04 PM
Quote from: nitro on February 26, 2016, 09:34:35 AM
I only have two hands. In a hunting situation, one hand is controlling my shotgun, and the other is being used to control the trumpet call.. ( maybe I'm doing it wrong)..  :toothy9:

Whatever works..

Totally agree!!!