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Title: Stoeger m3500 or Mossy 935
Post by: Bro2032 on May 02, 2015, 06:39:57 AM
I've been looking for a new "Dedicated" turkey gun.. I'm looking at the Stoeger M3500, and the Mossberg 935.. Both can be had in camo, with 24" barrel..
I know the 935 had cycling issues with lighter loads, but this will be a "Dedicated" gun, so that's a non-issue..
What are your thoughts on these two guns. The reviews are pretty good on both, but I want to hear what real turkey hunters have to say..

Thanks,
BRO
Title: Re: Stoeger m3500 or Mossy 935
Post by: bbcoach on May 02, 2015, 07:37:24 AM
I'm not that familiar with the Stoeger but I love my Mossy 835.  They pattern really well with Hevi's and LB's, there are plenty of quality and proven chokes for them and many on this site have done a lot of patterning so there is plenty of info to get you started.  Good Luck with your choice.   
Title: Stoeger m3500 or Mossy 935
Post by: Bro2032 on May 02, 2015, 09:31:30 AM
I've got a Mossberg 835, and it's outstanding.. My son claims it, and I'm gonna need another turkey gun.. Just wondering about reliability with the semis..
Title: Re: Stoeger m3500 or Mossy 935
Post by: Mike Honcho on May 02, 2015, 11:01:03 AM
I have both a Camo 24" 935 and 3500. My 3500 patterns better with Longbeard 6's (275 in 10@40), vs 210 with 935.
935 shot slightly off point of aim so it has tru gloMagnum gobble stopper sights. The Stoeger shoots left of point of aim and it wears a red dot. Stoeger  trigger is horrible, maybe 8-9 lb pull.  If I had to only buy one it would be a tough choice....I had a bad barrel on the Stoeger when it was new....swelled all turkey chokes. I had to send the 935 back for repair  when it was new so neither are "Benelli' quality.   

I have hunted all this season with the 935...mostly because I prefer  the iron sights.

The Stoeger with a $65 trigger job would be a formidable gun.
Title: Re: Stoeger m3500 or Mossy 935
Post by: jordanz7935 on May 02, 2015, 01:22:55 PM
Mossberg 935 all the way. Love mine wouldnt trade it for a benelli. Made in America with great customer service.I added another notch to its stock this morning!Also makes a great waterfowling gun.
Title: Re: Stoeger m3500 or Mossy 935
Post by: Bro2032 on May 02, 2015, 02:06:41 PM
Quote from: jordanz7935 on May 02, 2015, 01:22:55 PM
Mossberg 935 all the way. Love mine wouldnt trade it for a benelli. Made in America with great customer service.I added another notch to its stock this morning!Also makes a great waterfowling gun.
I sure like the look of a 935.. I like the USA stamp on it also.
Title: Re: Stoeger m3500 or Mossy 935
Post by: jordanz7935 on May 02, 2015, 02:10:17 PM
Quote from: Bro2032 on May 02, 2015, 02:06:41 PM
Quote from: jordanz7935 on May 02, 2015, 01:22:55 PM
Mossberg 935 all the way. Love mine wouldnt trade it for a benelli. Made in America with great customer service.I added another notch to its stock this morning!Also makes a great waterfowling gun.
I like the USA stamp on it also ????
Not exactly sure what your talkin about, maybe the sticker they have on the stock when theyre brand new?
Title: Re: Stoeger m3500 or Mossy 935
Post by: allaboutshooting on May 02, 2015, 02:54:18 PM
I've had a 935 for a long time and it's an excellent shotgun. Mine is an NWTF gun and came with a 25" barrel. A couple of months ago I put one of the new Marble's Ghost Ring sights on that barrel and also got a 28" that I've not yet shot.

Mine also has a very good, clean and relatively light trigger. It's very crisp. Although the manual says it won't cycle 2.75" shells, this one does very reliably. That seems to be a gun-to-gun thing.

It is muzzle heavy and you can get some serious cheek slap with it. I put a very thin neoprene pad on the comb and that solved the problem for me.

The only real objection that I've had when using it for turkeys is that is a heavy gun to carry all day.

Many of my readers shoot the Stoeger M3500 and like the gun. We had a number of folks come by our booth at the NWTF Convention this year to get a choke for that gun and it seems to be quite popular based upon the number of inquiries I've had about it. I've not heard anything negative about the gun.

It has the proven Inertia system and should be very easy to maintain. It's lighter than the 935 by maybe 1/4 lb.

It probably comes down to which one feels best to you and balances best in your hands. They're both good guns, well made and with reasonable care, should last a lifetime.

Thanks,
Clark
Title: Re: Stoeger m3500 or Mossy 935
Post by: Bro2032 on May 02, 2015, 03:08:37 PM
Quote from: jordanz7935 on May 02, 2015, 02:10:17 PM
Quote from: Bro2032 on May 02, 2015, 02:06:41 PM
Quote from: jordanz7935 on May 02, 2015, 01:22:55 PM
Mossberg 935 all the way. Love mine wouldnt trade it for a benelli. Made in America with great customer service.I added another notch to its stock this morning!Also makes a great waterfowling gun.
I like the USA stamp on it also ????
Not exactly sure what your talkin about, maybe the sticker they have on the stock when theyre brand new?
I'm not sure how that crazy face got in there. It was suppose to be a thumbs up.. Wasn't disputing your claim of US built at all. Sorry for the confusing post, friend..
Title: Re: Stoeger m3500 or Mossy 935
Post by: Bro2032 on May 02, 2015, 03:12:44 PM
Quote from: allaboutshooting on May 02, 2015, 02:54:18 PM
I've had a 935 for a long time and it's an excellent shotgun. Mine is an NWTF gun and came with a 25" barrel. A couple of months ago I put one of the new Marble's Ghost Ring sights on that barrel and also got a 28" that I've not yet shot.

Mine also has a very good, clean and relatively light trigger. It's very crisp. Although the manual says it won't cycle 2.75" shells, this one does very reliably. That seems to be a gun-to-gun thing.

It is muzzle heavy and you can get some serious cheek slap with it. I put a very thin neoprene pad on the comb and that solved the problem for me.

The only real objection that I've had when using it for turkeys is that is a heavy gun to carry all day.

Many of my readers shoot the Stoeger M3500 and like the gun. We had a number of folks come by our booth at the NWTF Convention this year to get a choke for that gun and it seems to be quite popular based upon the number of inquiries I've had about it. I've not heard anything negative about the gun.

It has the proven Inertia system and should be very easy to maintain. It's lighter than the 935 by maybe 1/4 lb.

It probably comes down to which one feels best to you and balances best in your hands. They're both good guns, well made and with reasonable care, should last a lifetime.

Thanks,
Clark
Thanks for the info, Clark.. I need to get my hands on both, and feel them out..
Title: Re: Stoeger m3500 or Mossy 935
Post by: jordanz7935 on May 02, 2015, 03:15:27 PM
Oh no problem i thought you were referring to the sticker on the stock. If the stoeger is inertia driven its gonna kick harder than a 935(gas Auto) . My 935 is the lightest recoiling 3&1/2" gun i have shot although i havent shot many of the high $ autos. It definately kicks alot less than my 870 when using 3"mags as well. Let us know what you end up getting.
Title: Re: Stoeger m3500 or Mossy 935
Post by: Bro2032 on May 02, 2015, 03:18:42 PM
Quote from: Mike Honcho on May 02, 2015, 11:01:03 AM
I have both a Camo 24" 935 and 3500. My 3500 patterns better with Longbeard 6's (275 in 10@40), vs 210 with 935.
935 shot slightly off point of aim so it has tru gloMagnum gobble stopper sights. The Stoeger shoots left of point of aim and it wears a red dot. Stoeger  trigger is horrible, maybe 8-9 lb pull.  If I had to only buy one it would be a tough choice....I had a bad barrel on the Stoeger when it was new....swelled all turkey chokes. I had to send the 935 back for repair  when it was new so neither are "Benelli' quality.   

I have hunted all this season with the 935...mostly because I prefer  the iron sights.

The Stoeger with a $65 trigger job would be a formidable gun.
Mike, I had read that the triggers on the M3500 were a little junky. But it's good to know that it can be worked. I would probably have either one of them to my gunsmith for a little work, so I'll call that a draw. Thanks for the info, brother.!!
Title: Re: Stoeger m3500 or Mossy 935
Post by: Bro2032 on May 02, 2015, 03:23:43 PM
Quote from: jordanz7935 on May 02, 2015, 03:15:27 PM
Oh no problem i thought you were referring to the sticker on the stock. If the stoeger is inertia driven its gonna kick harder than a 935(gas Auto) . My 935 is the lightest recoiling 3&1/2" gun i have shot although i havent shot many of the high $ autos. It definately kicks alot less than my 870 when using 3"mags as well. Let us know what you end up getting.
Good deal.. I thought that the M3500 being an inertia gun would mean a little extra slap. But, the fact that it is an inertia gun, will mean less cleaning also.. I want them both. May buy both, and sell the loser of the "Cheap Auto Shootout".!!
It'll be a couple of months before I buy. Hope to find a guy or two that own these guns, that'll let me try them out. But I will certainly keep you guys posted.
Title: Re: Stoeger m3500 or Mossy 935
Post by: Phire Phite on May 03, 2015, 08:19:18 PM
My M3500 patterns just slightly better than my 835 with the limited testing so far.  That trigger is pretty nasty, also, my safety is absurd to take off.  Very Stiff, but I bought the gun used and it was quite dirty.  What's the lead on a $65 trigger job for the Stoeger Mike?  R.R.?

OP, I don't think you could go wrong with either.
Title: Re: Stoeger m3500 or Mossy 935
Post by: buckgobbler on May 04, 2015, 09:56:18 PM
 I have hunted with 935 for years.  Mine has the 26" barrel.  I have found that it is not picky and patterns well with most shells. Mine really shoots lead 3 1/2 2 1/4 oz loads great.  I believe this is due to oversized diameter of barrel.  If you are going to shoot the HTL they both should shoot great. The 935 to me is a light kicking gun if there is such thing with a 3 1/2.  I put a Simms pad on my gun and a 3" she'll seems like shooting a 2 3/4 mag.  My friend has a SBE which is a great gun but has much more perceived recoil. 
Title: Re: Stoeger m3500 or Mossy 935
Post by: Mike Honcho on May 05, 2015, 07:54:12 AM
PhirePhite asked about gunsmith for Stoeger trigger work....620 286 5671. Daryl Johnson, Spears Gun Shop, in KS.

He builds release triggers for trap shooters, custom rifles etc. I haven't  had him do my Stoeger trigger yet but he estimated about $ 65. 

I have a custom 300 Win mag he built for me.....top quality work.

Easy to do this.....just need to send trigger group.

Mike
Title: Re: Stoeger m3500 or Mossy 935
Post by: Phire Phite on May 10, 2015, 09:07:28 PM
Thanks Mike, appreciate it.

OP, did you make a decision yet, we're dying to know?
Title: Re: Stoeger m3500 or Mossy 935
Post by: BBD on May 10, 2015, 10:24:31 PM
Another 935'er here.  I'm the same way with mine and only turkey hunt with it. I've got the TruGlo Magnum Gobble Dots on it but that just my preference.  I'd be scared to say how many gobblers it's taken out, be close to 50 if I had to guess, but I've been nothing but pleased. Like several have posted it is a tad on the heavy side but mine has been solid.  I've dragged it through mud, sleet, snow and lots of rain without ever failing to cycle or shoot. I break it down and give it a good cleaning at the end of each season and give it a shot of Rem oil at the start of each season and that's it.  I've got a Kick's .680 in mine and shoot the 3.5" Magnum Blends. I've shot several different loads throughout the years and have found the MB's to be the best load for me.
Title: Re: Stoeger m3500 or Mossy 935
Post by: Bro2032 on May 10, 2015, 11:13:48 PM
Quote from: Phire Phite on May 10, 2015, 09:07:28 PM
Thanks Mike, appreciate it.

OP, did you make a decision yet, we're dying to know?
I've decided to go with the Stoeger m3500, Burris Fastfire III, and a Sumtoy choke. Planning to shoot Win 3.5" LBXRs, in #5, or #6. Of course William at Sumtoy, and I will have to talk about what he thinks, as far as constriction. No purchase yet, but I have my shopping list made up ;)
Title: Re: Stoeger m3500 or Mossy 935
Post by: Phire Phite on May 11, 2015, 07:58:29 AM
Nice.  I have a Sumtoy in mine and get 201 with Mag Blends and 240 with straight 7's.  I think there's a thread on here somewhere that has a guy getting 250/280 or something crazy like that with the LB 6's.   
Title: Re: Stoeger m3500 or Mossy 935
Post by: Bro2032 on May 11, 2015, 03:10:32 PM
Quote from: Phire Phite on May 11, 2015, 07:58:29 AM
Nice.  I have a Sumtoy in mine and get 201 with Mag Blends and 240 with straight 7's.  I think there's a thread on here somewhere that has a guy getting 250/280 or something crazy like that with the LB 6's.
Sounds good. I think it'll make a good solid gun..
Title: Re: Stoeger m3500 or Mossy 935
Post by: Mike Honcho on May 11, 2015, 08:07:03 PM
Should make you a great turkey gun!