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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Turkey Guns => Topic started by: Borden811 on April 25, 2015, 12:47:22 PM

Title: Using shims to change poi
Post by: Borden811 on April 25, 2015, 12:47:22 PM
I've used the shims to change my poi for wing shooting, but for my turkey set up, a Benelli SBEII with a Burris fast fire on it, will it make any difference? I'm thinking with the red dot on there, changing the shims won't make any difference? Would adding a higher comb do anything? The issue is, when I sight the gun in, the red dot is at the very bottom of the sight window. I'd like to have the dot more in the center of the sight window. Currently, it's basically beside the bead on the gun when I look through the sight. And advice would be appreciated!
Title: Using shims to change poi
Post by: turkey_slayer on April 25, 2015, 01:22:19 PM
I use the shim with the least amount of drop. Just more comfortable for me. Doesn't matter where the dot is in the window. Your head position is off if it's in the bottom tho
Title: Using shims to change poi
Post by: Snoodsniper on April 25, 2015, 01:40:42 PM
Try a godagrip cheek pad. A few of us here are using them and I haven't heard any bad reviews. I think the shotgun wedge works good on benellis.
Title: Re: Using shims to change poi
Post by: Borden811 on April 25, 2015, 01:51:42 PM
I realize it doesn't matter where the dot is in the window. I'd just like it to be more centered when the gun is sighted in. I can't put my head anywhere else, my cheek bone is down on the stock. With the pistol grip on the gun, it's hits about a foot low at 40, so I have to have the dot down that far to get the pattern centered. I have a beartooth comb raising kit, but I don't think I can get that on over the pistol grip.
Title: Re: Using shims to change poi
Post by: turkey_slayer on April 25, 2015, 02:26:01 PM
You lost me at "With the pistol grip on the gun, it's hits about a foot low at 40, so I have to have the dot down that far to get the pattern centered". Doesn't matter if the dot is high, low, left or right. It only hits where it is on target. To get it centered you either need to raise or lower your head. I don't have mine with me but it seems you would raise your head or lower the stock to center the dot in the screen. Are you bottomed out on scope adjustment and how do you have it mounted
Title: Re: Using shims to change poi
Post by: Borden811 on April 25, 2015, 02:49:02 PM
You're not understanding what I'm saying at all. I mount the gun the same way every time. When I look through the sight window, with the gun mounted correctly, when the gun is sighted in to put the pattern where it needs to hit, the dot is at the very bottom of the window. If I move the dot with the sight adjustment to put the dot in the center of the sight window, the pattern hits about a foot low. If I move my head to put the dot in the center of the window, I can't even hold the gun normally, and look down the rib. That's clearly not the answer. What I'm wanting to know is, if I change the shims, or put a raised comb on the gun, will I be able to move the dot to somewhere close to the center of the sight window, with the gun correctly mounted, and have the pattern hit where it needs to.
Title: Re: Using shims to change poi
Post by: VAarrowslinger on April 25, 2015, 03:13:01 PM
i follow and im interested in this also
Title: Using shims to change poi
Post by: Snoodsniper on April 25, 2015, 03:14:59 PM
If the dot is centered in a heads up position (face off the stock) raising the comb will obviously help. This is normally the case with a pistol grip because the comb is lower than a standard stock for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Using shims to change poi
Post by: turkey_slayer on April 25, 2015, 03:18:12 PM
I did understand if this is what you meant.

"If I move my head to put the dot in the center of the window, I can't even hold the gun normally, and look down the rib. That's clearly not the answer."

That is the answer and what I said before. You need to raise the stock if your wanting to maintain cheek weld either by shimming if it's not much or put on a higher comb If your head needs to come up a lot.  If your using a fastfire why are you looking down the rib? Are you trying to cover the bead with the dot then line up on target?
Title: Re: Using shims to change poi
Post by: Borden811 on April 25, 2015, 04:05:51 PM
Nope, not trying to cover the bead with the dot at all, but when sighted in so the dot puts the pattern where I'm aiming, that's how low it is in the sight window, almost on top of the bead. That's what I'm trying to remedy here. I could pretty much leave the dot off, look through the the sight window, use the bead to aim, and hit where I want as it stands now. So it sounds as if I take as much drop out of the stock as possible with the shims, and get this beartooth comb raising kit on the stock, I might be headed in the right direction.