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Title: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: deerbasshunter3 on April 12, 2015, 12:07:40 PM
Since my 2015 turkey season is now over, I cleaned my shotgun and replaced the turkey choke with the Remington modified choke that came with it. Will it hurt anything to store my shotgun with shells in the magazine, in case I should have to use it on an intruder?
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: Twowithone on April 12, 2015, 12:22:03 PM
Not a good idea at all. You expecting trouble or something if you are notify the police but don't leave a firearm loaded period. :OGturkeyhead:
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: 10gaugemag on April 12, 2015, 12:34:19 PM
Quote from: deerbasshunter3 on April 12, 2015, 12:07:40 PM
Since my 2015 turkey season is now over, I cleaned my shotgun and replaced the turkey choke with the Remington modified choke that came with it. Will it hurt anything to store my shotgun with shells in the magazine, in case I should have to use it on an intruder?
Not a good idea, compressing the magazine spring for long periods of time will weaken it. All of my guns are stored empty and dry fired, no springs have any tension left on them when stored.
Title: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: eddie234 on April 12, 2015, 01:07:46 PM
Here's my home defense shotgun. It's a tricked out Winchester 1300. I keep six rounds in the tube. Store it in my closet in a silicon gun sock.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/eddie234/FA0CFC5C-267E-4BC4-8A93-72F7E6C36F10_zpsr541d5xt.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/eddie234/media/FA0CFC5C-267E-4BC4-8A93-72F7E6C36F10_zpsr541d5xt.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: deerbasshunter3 on April 12, 2015, 01:14:13 PM
Quote from: Twowithone on April 12, 2015, 12:22:03 PM
Not a good idea at all. You expecting trouble or something if you are notify the police but don't leave a firearm loaded period. :OGturkeyhead:

I am not expecting any trouble, but then again, nobody ever is until something happens. I just like to be prepared.
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: allaboutshooting on April 12, 2015, 01:26:11 PM
Quote from: deerbasshunter3 on April 12, 2015, 01:14:13 PM
Quote from: Twowithone on April 12, 2015, 12:22:03 PM
Not a good idea at all. You expecting trouble or something if you are notify the police but don't leave a firearm loaded period. :OGturkeyhead:

I am not expecting any trouble, but then again, nobody ever is until something happens. I just like to be prepared.

Springs can be replaced and should be if left compressed for long periods of time. The same is true of springs in magazines for pistols. I've seen tests done of spring compression, such as storing a .45 magazine fully loaded for extended periods of time. In reality the cost of springs is just a cost of doing business.

If when you do replace springs, it's advisable to get the best ones available. There are quality differences just as in any other product.

Thanks,
Clark
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: Tracker760 on April 12, 2015, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: eddie234 on April 12, 2015, 01:07:46 PM
Here's my home defense shotgun. It's a tricked out Winchester 1300. I keep six rounds in the tube. Store it in my closet in a silicon gun sock.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/eddie234/FA0CFC5C-267E-4BC4-8A93-72F7E6C36F10_zpsr541d5xt.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/eddie234/media/FA0CFC5C-267E-4BC4-8A93-72F7E6C36F10_zpsr541d5xt.jpg.html)

Good luck trying to get that thing out of a sock while someone is kicking your door down. Just saying.
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: 10gaugemag on April 12, 2015, 03:24:53 PM
Quote from: Tracker760 on April 12, 2015, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: eddie234 on April 12, 2015, 01:07:46 PM
Here's my home defense shotgun. It's a tricked out Winchester 1300. I keep six rounds in the tube. Store it in my closet in a silicon gun sock.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/eddie234/FA0CFC5C-267E-4BC4-8A93-72F7E6C36F10_zpsr541d5xt.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/eddie234/media/FA0CFC5C-267E-4BC4-8A93-72F7E6C36F10_zpsr541d5xt.jpg.html)

Good luck trying to get that thing out of a sock while someone is kicking your door down. Just saying.
I am sure with 6 in the tube the ones in the stock wont be needed.
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: ridgerunner on April 12, 2015, 03:52:59 PM
Quote from: Twowithone on April 12, 2015, 12:22:03 PM
Not a good idea at all. You expecting trouble or something if you are notify the police but don't leave a firearm loaded period. :OGturkeyhead:

LOL...this is laughable..notify Police....not sure about him...but I live 30 minutes from any police response I'd be dead waiting on the Police....I'll defend myself thanks!
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: deerbasshunter3 on April 12, 2015, 04:25:18 PM
Quote from: Twowithone on April 12, 2015, 12:22:03 PM
Not a good idea at all. You expecting trouble or something if you are notify the police but don't leave a firearm loaded period. :OGturkeyhead:

Also, I do not want to leave it loaded, just with a few shells in the magazine.
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: Tracker760 on April 12, 2015, 05:25:12 PM
Quote from: 10gaugemag on April 12, 2015, 03:24:53 PM
Quote from: Tracker760 on April 12, 2015, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: eddie234 on April 12, 2015, 01:07:46 PM
Here's my home defense shotgun. It's a tricked out Winchester 1300. I keep six rounds in the tube. Store it in my closet in a silicon gun sock.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/eddie234/FA0CFC5C-267E-4BC4-8A93-72F7E6C36F10_zpsr541d5xt.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/eddie234/media/FA0CFC5C-267E-4BC4-8A93-72F7E6C36F10_zpsr541d5xt.jpg.html)

Good luck trying to get that thing out of a sock while someone is kicking your door down. Just saying.
I am sure with 6 in the tube the ones in the stock wont be needed.

"Sock" not "stock".
Either way nothing will do you good if you can't put it in action NOW. That's like having a trigger lock on your CC piece.
Hold on MR. Bad guy my "sock" is hung up on this pistol grip, wait, wait, oops now the cotton picking reflex is stuck. Now if I can get it over this dang flashlight, I'm going to blind you then shoot you.

The sling on a home defence gun really cracks me up. Useless!
I'd rather have a dog.
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: 10gaugemag on April 12, 2015, 05:39:42 PM
Quote from: Tracker760 on April 12, 2015, 05:25:12 PM
Quote from: 10gaugemag on April 12, 2015, 03:24:53 PM
Quote from: Tracker760 on April 12, 2015, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: eddie234 on April 12, 2015, 01:07:46 PM
Here's my home defense shotgun. It's a tricked out Winchester 1300. I keep six rounds in the tube. Store it in my closet in a silicon gun sock.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/eddie234/FA0CFC5C-267E-4BC4-8A93-72F7E6C36F10_zpsr541d5xt.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/eddie234/media/FA0CFC5C-267E-4BC4-8A93-72F7E6C36F10_zpsr541d5xt.jpg.html)

Good luck trying to get that thing out of a sock while someone is kicking your door down. Just saying.
I am sure with 6 in the tube the ones in the stock wont be needed.

"Sock" not "stock".
Either way nothing will do you good if you can't put it in action NOW. That's like having a trigger lock on your CC piece.
Hold on MR. Bad guy my "sock" is hung up on this pistol grip, wait, wait, oops now the cotton picking reflex is stuck. Now if I can get it over this dang flashlight, I'm going to blind you then shoot you.

The sling on a home defence gun really cracks me up. Useless!
I'd rather have a dog.
My bad!!
Title: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: Snoodsniper on April 12, 2015, 09:07:46 PM
I say go for it. Just get a Mossberg loc-box or a shotlock to keep it handy and safe. Maybe buy a spare spring. They're inexpensive and easy to replace.
Title: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: eddie234 on April 12, 2015, 09:15:34 PM

Quote from: Tracker760 on April 12, 2015, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: eddie234 on April 12, 2015, 01:07:46 PM
Here's my home defense shotgun. It's a tricked out Winchester 1300. I keep six rounds in the tube. Store it in my closet in a silicon gun sock.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/eddie234/FA0CFC5C-267E-4BC4-8A93-72F7E6C36F10_zpsr541d5xt.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/eddie234/media/FA0CFC5C-267E-4BC4-8A93-72F7E6C36F10_zpsr541d5xt.jpg.html)

Good luck trying to get that thing out of a sock while someone is kicking your door down. Just saying.
Thank goodness I'm a police officer and I have my duty weapon close by and a police car in the drive way. I'm sure I won't have much trouble getting to it by the time they get to the second floor. Just sayin
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: outdoorsmen on April 12, 2015, 09:23:22 PM
Quote from: eddie234 on April 12, 2015, 09:15:34 PM

Quote from: Tracker760 on April 12, 2015, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: eddie234 on April 12, 2015, 01:07:46 PM
Here's my home defense shotgun. It's a tricked out Winchester 1300. I keep six rounds in the tube. Store it in my closet in a silicon gun sock.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/eddie234/FA0CFC5C-267E-4BC4-8A93-72F7E6C36F10_zpsr541d5xt.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/eddie234/media/FA0CFC5C-267E-4BC4-8A93-72F7E6C36F10_zpsr541d5xt.jpg.html)
With the huge magnifying glass that cops now work under I'm glad I stood in the other line.

Good luck trying to get that thing out of a sock while someone is kicking your door down. Just saying.
Thank goodness I'm a police officer and I have my duty weapon close by and a police car in the drive way. I'm sure I won't have much trouble getting to it by the time they get to the second floor. Just sayin
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: yella yelper on April 13, 2015, 12:21:49 PM
Load her up and leave it.  It'll last a while and IF they do wear out, just get new springs.  I don't know about yall, but I don't jack up my truck every night to relieve the pressure on the springs. 
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: deerbasshunter3 on April 13, 2015, 10:09:49 PM
Quote from: yella yelper on April 13, 2015, 12:21:49 PM
Load her up and leave it.  It'll last a while and IF they do wear out, just get new springs.  I don't know about yall, but I don't jack up my truck every night to relieve the pressure on the springs.

You bring up a good point about the truck springs.
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: surehuntsalot on April 13, 2015, 10:34:42 PM
I have 3 shotguns, 2 SKS's with 30rd magazines, 1 AK47 with a 40rd magazine, and 3 9mm pistols that are loaded 24/7 in my house

an empty gun is and expensive baseball bat and just as useless when you need it
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: kjnengr on April 20, 2015, 05:52:16 PM
Quote from: deerbasshunter3 on April 13, 2015, 10:09:49 PM
Quote from: yella yelper on April 13, 2015, 12:21:49 PM
Load her up and leave it.  It'll last a while and IF they do wear out, just get new springs.  I don't know about yall, but I don't jack up my truck every night to relieve the pressure on the springs.

You bring up a good point about the truck springs.

All springs are designed differently.  Some are designed so that they can be fully compressed, others will set if overly compressed.  Truck springs are designed to have the weight of the truck on them at all times. If you want the gun for home defense, I would buy an additional spring and just monitor the one in your gun to see when it needs to be replaced.  I have never stored a gun with the magazine spring compressed so I don't know how long it takes or if it ever weakens the spring.
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: cuppednlocked on April 26, 2015, 08:40:09 AM
Magazine springs are weakened by compression cycles or overloading, not by leaving them compressed.

http://www.nationalgunforum.com/semi-auto-handgun-discussion/24400-spring-tension-loaded-pistol-magazines-2.html
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: WV TURKEY THUG on April 26, 2015, 03:08:46 PM
keep it loaded with a backup also. ive got guns hid throughout the house thats easy to get to if i need it. i unload them when i expect kids to be around.  a good k9 will deter alot of intruders.
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: FullChoke on April 27, 2015, 09:08:11 AM
If time is critical, I wouldn't waste my time with trying to take a sock off of a gun, just shoot through it.

I would also practice getting to the gun and getting ready. Perfect practice makes for better results for you.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: Spitten and drummen on April 27, 2015, 03:22:07 PM
all I can say is I have guns that have stayed loaded to the hilt with one in the pipe for several years. I take them and shoot them and load them back up. I haven't had a issue with feeding due to a weak spring as long as I can remember.
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: surehuntsalot on April 28, 2015, 01:49:22 PM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on April 27, 2015, 03:22:07 PM
all I can say is I have guns that have stayed loaded to the hilt with one in the pipe for several years. I take them and shoot them and load them back up. I haven't had a issue with feeding due to a weak spring as long as I can remember.


that is the way a firearm is suppose to work
Title: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: 30_06 on April 28, 2015, 07:18:01 PM
Can't say I have had a problem leaving the magazine full. As mentioned above a unloaded gun is an expensive bat....I prefer guns to bats for defense.
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: g8rvet on May 02, 2015, 06:02:07 PM
When seconds count, the police are just minutes away. 


Not a knock on the police, it is just geography. 
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: Phire Phite on May 12, 2015, 08:50:04 AM
I believe the "wearing out" of springs takes quite a while.  I'll gladly spend a few bucks for some springs once a year at worst so I'm not trying to load a magazine in the dark, after just being woken up, with lots a adrenaline flowing, with someone in the house with my kids....
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: deerbasshunter3 on May 12, 2015, 02:34:28 PM
Regardless of whether it is loaded or not, it is locked in a safe, away from my child, so it would probably take too long to get to it anyways.
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: turkey buster on May 13, 2015, 05:28:21 PM
An unloaded gun is useless
Title: Re: Storing a shotgun with shells in the magazine.
Post by: Phire Phite on May 13, 2015, 10:10:05 PM
Quote from: turkey buster on May 13, 2015, 05:28:21 PM
An unloaded gun is useless

Unless it's a desert eagle...could take out a water buffalo pistol whipping it :toothy12: