Does anybody have advice for purring with a diaphragm? I can do the tinge roll but not with the call in.
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I'm no expert by any means, but I find it helps to have the diaphragm farther back.
I could t do it with a call forever. Just keep at it. I wouldn't do any calling at all other than just trying to purr. Practice a lot.
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While I prefer a slate for purring, I can do it by letting the mouth diaphragm "flutter" in my mouth while blowing air across it, much like puckering to spit.
I am working on the actual technique, but find it easier and better sounding to vibrate my lips to make a purr.
Starting out I used big breaths of air. It doesn't sound as high as it should but I kept practicing until I could do it softly. Scott Ellis has a video on YouTube that helped me out alot
Practice.... Took me a long time to figure it out. I roll the tip of my tongue back under the reeds and very little pressure and little air. Gargle and flutter tongue. Its a pita to get it right. It may be easy for some but took a couple years to get the sound I wanted.
You gotta find the right call too.
If you have not already, try the gargling method. Like gargling mouth wash.
I have a hell of a time with it as well, I can get fighting purrs but soft stuff is tuff for me, I want to get the subtle purrs and whines down!
Vibrate your tongue using a two reed.
I am novice at best but, I find the gargle method gives much more control. I find that air flow over the reeds in relation to the cuts and the pressure applied to them with my tongue make a huge difference in the purr that comes out. It would be every hard, at least for me, to control either of those while fluttering my tongue. Obviously it is possible as there are many great callers, well beyond my ability, that can do it. However, I bet those folks could make any call with any method sound better than me at my best.
Well now I feel a little better knowing its a struggle for others. I watched the Ellis video and tried that but as soon as the call is in I can't get the flutter anymore. I'm sure it's just practice. I'll try the gargle thing and the lips thing too.
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I am certainly no calling expert, but once you feel good about how it sounds to you, try it with a hen at 15-20 yards. If she likes it and does not spook and responds, you are golden.
I was hunting a lease I was in and had my peg hung (we hung it for a whole area so we could move around a little) and one of the other member comes walking down the two rut road behind me cutting and yelping and clucking (all kind of ugly sounding and not real pretty and really loud), all while the gobbler right in front of me is raising a ruckus. I did not want to stand up and spook the gobbler and yelped a few times, kind of a little off cadence to let them know I was already there. It was a hen and she walked right past me at 6 yards, still raising sin. She then flies up to the tree over my head, still making all kinds of calls. 10 minutes later, flydown cackle and she heads to the gobbler she has totally fired up. Not all hens sound pretty either.
I will check out that video though, I can always use improvement.
I just listened, good video. I think I need to puff my cheeks more, he sounds good, more natural.