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Title: Wierd pattern with HW7's?
Post by: WNY Bowhunter on April 01, 2015, 08:24:56 PM
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Shot this pattern today from a 870 20 gauge / SSX choke at about 17 yds. I've never seen a pattern that trails off to the side like this at that range.  I'm assuming it's due to the flight contol wads? Is this normai at  closer ranges with the Federal Flight Control loads?
Title: Re: Wierd pattern with HW7's?
Post by: SumToy on April 01, 2015, 09:25:30 PM
Should have been a hole.  Now was it side to side or up and down.   It looks like the choke grabbed one side of the wad and spun it.   
Title: Re: Wierd pattern with HW7's?
Post by: WNY Bowhunter on April 01, 2015, 09:29:13 PM
The trail of shot went off to the left of the main shot column.
Title: Re: Wierd pattern with HW7's?
Post by: surehuntsalot on April 01, 2015, 09:40:53 PM
looks like the choke may have messed with the flight control wad
Title: Re: Wierd pattern with HW7's?
Post by: thenatural67 on April 03, 2015, 09:42:48 PM
I cant get it consistent in anything I shoot.
Title: Re: Wierd pattern with HW7's?
Post by: Squiibs on April 07, 2015, 10:02:31 PM
This is a little scary....I recently just changed over to the SSX choke so this is the exact set up I will be pattering this weekend. The 870 express mag with a 21 inch barrel. Ill be comparing 3 inch HW#7 and 3 inch federal HW#7 with flitecontrol. Hope I dont have the same issue.
Title: Re: Wierd pattern with HW7's?
Post by: walk20 on April 07, 2015, 10:56:09 PM
Just changed to indian creek for that same reason with the ssx
Title: Re: Wierd pattern with HW7's?
Post by: 10gaugemag on April 08, 2015, 07:39:51 PM
Not a 20 and not HW but my SSX sure screws with the wad in a Longbeard. Rips petals from the wad and if you look in the tube it looks as if the shot/wad passed along one side of the tube and never touched the other. Saving the SSX for conventional wad/shot loads.
Title: Re: Wierd pattern with HW7's?
Post by: jordanz7935 on April 08, 2015, 08:34:15 PM
Quote from: 10gaugemag on April 08, 2015, 07:39:51 PM
Not a 20 and not HW but my SSX sure screws with the wad in a Longbeard. Rips petals from the wad and if you look in the tube it looks as if the shot/wad passed along one side of the tube and never touched the other. Saving the SSX for conventional wad/shot loads.
The Longbeards are loaded with conventional wads. Most any wad-stopping choke is gonna tear up the wad.Ive seen this with Indian Creek,Kicks, and Patternmaster chokes.Thats what they were designed to do. I beleive the Sumtoy is the only wad-stopper choke thats reccomended for HW#7s.I know alot of guys shoot Indian Creek chokes with good results but they are not waranteed and i wouldnt recomend it after seeing what Fed HW's did to my indian creek in my 935.
Title: Re: Wierd pattern with HW7's?
Post by: 10gaugemag on April 08, 2015, 08:48:13 PM
Quote from: jordanz7935 on April 08, 2015, 08:34:15 PM
Quote from: 10gaugemag on April 08, 2015, 07:39:51 PM
Not a 20 and not HW but my SSX sure screws with the wad in a Longbeard. Rips petals from the wad and if you look in the tube it looks as if the shot/wad passed along one side of the tube and never touched the other. Saving the SSX for conventional wad/shot loads.
The Longbeards are loaded with conventional wads. Most any wad-stopping choke is gonna tear up the wad.Ive seen this with Indian Creek,Kicks, and Patternmaster chokes.Thats what they were designed to do. I beleive the Sumtoy is the only wad-stopper choke thats reccomended for HW#7s.I know alot of guys shoot Indian Creek chokes with good results but they are not waranteed and i wouldnt recomend it after seeing what Fed HW's did to my indian creek in my 935.
Yes conventional wad but far from conventional shot/buffer loading.
Title: Re: Wierd pattern with HW7's?
Post by: Squiibs on April 10, 2015, 07:26:33 PM
Should I be worried here??? Cause I am.
Title: Re: Wierd pattern with HW7's?
Post by: jordanz7935 on April 10, 2015, 08:45:16 PM
Quote from: Squiibs on April 10, 2015, 07:26:33 PM
Should I be worried here??? Cause I am.
About?
Title: Re: Wierd pattern with HW7's?
Post by: g8rvet on April 10, 2015, 10:03:43 PM
15 yards, HW#7 Weatherby SA-459 and a Trulock choke,  Just for comparison. 
Title: Re: Wierd pattern with HW7's?
Post by: WNY Bowhunter on April 10, 2015, 10:40:32 PM
Quote from: Squiibs on April 10, 2015, 07:26:33 PM
Should I be worried here??? Cause I am.

I ended up switching the SSX out with a Tightwad for now. I'll probably go the SumToy route in the future...
Title: Re: Wierd pattern with HW7's?
Post by: Squiibs on April 12, 2015, 07:55:13 PM
Quote from: WNY Bowhunter on April 10, 2015, 10:40:32 PM
Quote from: Squiibs on April 10, 2015, 07:26:33 PM
Should I be worried here??? Cause I am.

I ended up switching the SSX out with a Tightwad for now. I'll probably go the SumToy route in the future...

Are you still using the HW#7s???
Title: Re: Wierd pattern with HW7's?
Post by: WNY Bowhunter on April 12, 2015, 09:42:19 PM
Yes I am.
Title: Re: Wierd pattern with HW7's?
Post by: Dr Juice on April 13, 2015, 08:37:51 AM
Flite Control through the SSX is a No-Go from my experience. I shoot hevi-shot and Win lead loads well out of it. Good luck.