I hope so...
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It would be nice to have all day hunting. Iowa has for years. The only thing they could do is still have a 1:00 end time,on public land, for mushroomers etc. As a public land hunter,this would mean no real change. Youth should have a week and the entire season. IMO Nice to see somebody thinking.
Heck, I always liked that about MO. Kind of wish TN would go to morning only turkey hunting. Y'all don't skin me for it. I'm not writing letters to the commission or anything. Just a personal opinion that means nothing at all.
I would wish just the opposite for Missouri. I would rather see it go back to just 2 weeks only one bird each week. The quality of hunts back then when it was like that were 10 fold what they are now.
Quote from: Hook hanger on March 25, 2015, 03:09:34 PM
I would wish just the opposite for Missouri. I would rather see it go back to just 2 weeks only one bird each week. The quality of hunts back then when it was like that were 10 fold what they are now.
We had better hatches, better habitat, and fewer predators back then...and lots of quail, too.
Half day hunting makes it almost impossible for me to get out because of work. I'd like to see this change made as long as the biology supports doing it.
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I am on the fence and guess it does not matter to me personally either way, Only places I have hunted afternoons were Indiana last year, killed my bird late evening and Nebraska where I have shot several birds in the evening over the years.
Illinois goes until one, and I kind of like spending the afternoon scouting or fishing, of course there are times I would like to be hunting.
I like how Missouri allows the youth to hunt all day, Illinois only has a two day youth season and it stops at 1pm, should at least give the kids all day!
I'd prefer that they left well enough alone. Sure don't want to turn into the next Kansas.(and no I have nothing against out of staters)
MoMo ain't Kansas or Nebraska....later hours will put lots more hunters in the field...
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PA started all day hunting a couple years ago. Its the second half of the season. I think I've hunted the afternoon once or twice. I will probably take advantage of it more with my boys getting old enough to hunt but it's not the same as a good morning hunt.
I would like all day hunting in Mo. I kill a lot of afternoon birds. Also on a selfish note it may spread out some of the pressure in Ks if people can hunt Mo all day too
I'm not trying to hijack the thread, but what is the reason for half day only hunting? Does it keep the number of kills down? Reduces pressure?
Quote from: kjnengr on March 25, 2015, 08:15:11 PM
I'm not trying to hijack the thread, but what is the reason for half day only hunting? Does it keep the number of kills down? Reduces pressure?
Reduce pressure and allows hens to go to nest undisturbed(or less of a chance getting disturbed)
Sure is nice to fish. skip rocks,ride around sightseeing in the afternoons in Mo.! We hear birds from our campground gobbling in the evenings, I believe this will all stop when the ridge runner, box callers are turned loose in the eve.
Quote from: Blong on March 25, 2015, 09:14:01 PM
Sure is nice to fish. skip rocks,ride around sightseeing in the afternoons in Mo.! We hear birds from our campground gobbling in the evenings, I believe this will all stop when the ridge runner, box callers are turned loose in the eve.
Evening hunting doesn't effect turkeys gobbling in the morning that much. We have always had all day hunting in Alabama. I have hunted turkeys on mostly public land for all my life and some years they gobble in the evenings and some years they don't. Turkeys are going to do what turkeys do. i think it has to do with hen ratios maybe. I have shot at gobblers in the evening and went back and have a turkey gobble like crazy the next morning in almost the same tree. I think in the fall they get all weird and adjust their patterns around pressure but not as much in the spring. If his hens are in an area then he is going to stay pretty close to that same place. I used to go to Florida a lot and hunt and the turkeys i hunted there never gobbled in the evening and would barely gobble on the ground. I talked to the forest service biologist there and he said it was because of coyotes jumping out of the palmettos on them. Who knows what they will do.
Quote from: fsu33952 on March 25, 2015, 09:52:42 PM
Quote from: Blong on March 25, 2015, 09:14:01 PM
Sure is nice to fish. skip rocks,ride around sightseeing in the afternoons in Mo.! We hear birds from our campground gobbling in the evenings, I believe this will all stop when the ridge runner, box callers are turned loose in the eve.
Evening hunting doesn't effect turkeys gobbling in the morning that much. We have always had all day hunting in Alabama. I have hunted turkeys on mostly public land for all my life and some years they gobble in the evenings and some years they don't. Turkeys are going to do what turkeys do. i think it has to do with hen ratios maybe. I have shot at gobblers in the evening and went back and have a turkey gobble like crazy the next morning in almost the same tree. I think in the fall they get all weird and adjust their patterns around pressure but not as much in the spring. If his hens are in an area then he is going to stay pretty close to that same place. I used to go to Florida a lot and hunt and the turkeys i hunted there never gobbled in the evening and would barely gobble on the ground. I talked to the forest service biologist there and he said it was because of coyotes jumping out of the palmettos on them. Who knows what they will do.
I have hunted Ms all my life and evening gobbling is very rare here until the last week of april.
Ohio went to all day in the second half of the season 2-3 years ago, and I don't think it's made much difference in the take. I'll go most afternoons without ever seeing or hearing another hunter.
What has made a difference is the check system. Guys are buying licenses online and printing multiples. They're supposed to check them, online if they want. They tag a bird, but never check it. Then they just pull out a newly printed license.
They're doing the same thing with deer, and I think it's hurt both populations.
I wish the state would go back to check stations and metal tags.
Quote from: Gobblers_nightmare on March 26, 2015, 02:04:55 AM
Ohio went to all day in the second half of the season 2-3 years ago, and I don't think it's made much difference in the take. I'll go most afternoons without ever seeing or hearing another hunter.
What has made a difference is the check system. Guys are buying licenses online and printing multiples. They're supposed to check them, online if they want. They tag a bird, but never check it. Then they just pull out a newly printed license.
They're doing the same thing with deer, and I think it's hurt both populations.
I wish the state would go back to check stations and metal tags.
Agree with you on the afternoon hunting having little impact. But don't agree with the license system change. A poacher is a poacher. If he's poaching now, he was poaching before. Its all about ethics, not convienence.
Quote from: DanT on March 26, 2015, 12:12:59 PM
Quote from: Gobblers_nightmare on March 26, 2015, 02:04:55 AM
Ohio went to all day in the second half of the season 2-3 years ago, and I don't think it's made much difference in the take. I'll go most afternoons without ever seeing or hearing another hunter.
What has made a difference is the check system. Guys are buying licenses online and printing multiples. They're supposed to check them, online if they want. They tag a bird, but never check it. Then they just pull out a newly printed license.
They're doing the same thing with deer, and I think it's hurt both populations.
I wish the state would go back to check stations and metal tags.
Agree with you on the afternoon hunting having little impact. But don't agree with the license system change. A poacher is a poacher. If he's poaching now, he was poaching before. Its all about ethics, not convienence.
Agreed. Poachers never used check stations, either.
For guys doing multi day trips to locations that don't allow afternoon hunting, do you still go out and "hunt" the birds but leave the gun in the truck in order to roost/scout birds?
Quote from: kjnengr on March 26, 2015, 02:02:17 PM
For guys doing multi day trips to locations that don't allow afternoon hunting, do you still go out and "hunt" the birds but leave the gun in the truck in order to roost/scout birds?
Yes, but I don't even have a gun in the truck.
I leave Mr. Greenjeans no wiggle room.
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Quote from: stinkpickle on March 26, 2015, 01:02:47 PM
Quote from: DanT on March 26, 2015, 12:12:59 PM
Agree with you on the afternoon hunting having little impact. But don't agree with the license system change. A poacher is a poacher. If he's poaching now, he was poaching before. Its all about ethics, not convienence.
Agreed. Poachers never used check stations, either.
I think the ease of printing their own tag, instead of using a state issued one is what has made the difference. These guys can tag their bird and walk out of the woods without worrying about a game warden, they're legal if they happen to get checked. They can drive back to camp or home, and they're still legal. They're legal right up until time passes to check the animal. By that time it's in the freezer, and a newly printed tag has come out.
It's not so easy to replace that state issued tag. If they're going to poach, I'd like them to at least be a bit nervous about it.
Quote from: Gobblers_nightmare on March 26, 2015, 02:49:10 PM
Quote from: stinkpickle on March 26, 2015, 01:02:47 PM
Quote from: DanT on March 26, 2015, 12:12:59 PM
Agree with you on the afternoon hunting having little impact. But don't agree with the license system change. A poacher is a poacher. If he's poaching now, he was poaching before. Its all about ethics, not convienence.
Agreed. Poachers never used check stations, either.
I think the ease of printing their own tag, instead of using a state issued one is what has made the difference. These guys can tag their bird and walk out of the woods without worrying about a game warden, they're legal if they happen to get checked. They can drive back to camp or home, and they're still legal. They're legal right up until time passes to check the animal. By that time it's in the freezer, and a newly printed tag has come out.
It's not so easy to replace that state issued tag. If they're going to poach, I'd like them to at least be a bit nervous about it.
exactly how they do it i would bet, all they do is make it home. With the check station the Wardens make the women and kids nervous too, you know the ones with the tags who get out of the trucks in high heels and don't know to put the stock on the shoulder just under it. ??? With an 835 and nothing but 3 1/2" shells on them. ya that 60 pound 5 year old got that one.you bet ::)
Quote from: owlhoot on March 26, 2015, 08:46:12 PM
Quote from: Gobblers_nightmare on March 26, 2015, 02:49:10 PM
Quote from: stinkpickle on March 26, 2015, 01:02:47 PM
Quote from: DanT on March 26, 2015, 12:12:59 PM
Agree with you on the afternoon hunting having little impact. But don't agree with the license system change. A poacher is a poacher. If he's poaching now, he was poaching before. Its all about ethics, not convienence.
Agreed. Poachers never used check stations, either.
I think the ease of printing their own tag, instead of using a state issued one is what has made the difference. These guys can tag their bird and walk out of the woods without worrying about a game warden, they're legal if they happen to get checked. They can drive back to camp or home, and they're still legal. They're legal right up until time passes to check the animal. By that time it's in the freezer, and a newly printed tag has come out.
It's not so easy to replace that state issued tag. If they're going to poach, I'd like them to at least be a bit nervous about it.
exactly how they do it i would bet, all they do is make it home. With the check station the Wardens make the women and kids nervous too, you know the ones with the tags who get out of the trucks in high heels and don't know to put the stock on the shoulder just under it. ??? With an 835 and nothing but 3 1/2" shells on them. ya that 60 pound 5 year old got that one.you bet ::)
Thinking back, I don't remember ever seeing an agent at a check station, even during the night check-in after the deer season opener. It was usually just employees of the local business, and they all knew the "family taggers". ;)