Alright boys, need a little help if you don't mind. I have a Benelli SBE the original version. I originally had a Hastings old ported choke and finally decided to finally upgrade this year. I bought an Indian Creek .665 for the benelli and patterned the Winchester Extended Range 3.5 6's and they patterned horrible. I then shot the Hevi 13 3.5 2.25 6's and patterned much better, but still only got around 160 in a 10" circle. I still have more of the 6's and also have the Hevi 13 3 inch 6's and 3.5 2.25 7's to try to shoot. Do you guys reccommend another choke that may shoot well out of the Benelli? It looks like a lot of guys are having a lot of luck with the 7's so I'm hoping they shoot good. Thanks for any info.
Also, with the Indian Creek, my pattern was 8-9 inches low at 40 yards, so I bought a Mueller Red dot and am going to mount it to a b square mount and see how that works so I can adjust if needed.
try the rest of your shells (3inch #6's and 3.5inch #7's) before you look for another choke
Quote from: greenheadIL on March 23, 2011, 06:33:30 PM
Alright boys, need a little help if you don't mind. I have a Benelli SBE the original version. I originally had a Hastings old ported choke and finally decided to finally upgrade this year. I bought an Indian Creek .665 for the benelli and patterned the Winchester Extended Range 3.5 6's and they patterned horrible. I then shot the Hevi 13 3.5 2.25 6's and patterned much better, but still only got around 160 in a 10" circle. I still have more of the 6's and also have the Hevi 13 3 inch 6's and 3.5 2.25 7's to try to shoot. Do you guys reccommend another choke that may shoot well out of the Benelli? It looks like a lot of guys are having a lot of luck with the 7's so I'm hoping they shoot good. Thanks for any info.
Also, with the Indian Creek, my pattern was 8-9 inches low at 40 yards, so I bought a Mueller Red dot and am going to mount it to a b square mount and see how that works so I can adjust if needed.
A lot of hunters and shooters are really getting great patterns with the shells that you've mentioned with their SBE and the SBEII and the Wright's #2 Turkey Choke. That choke is non-ported, has a crowned muzzle, a 1.3" parallel section and a .660 exit diameter.
That's just one option of course but I am seeing some excellent results with that one.
Thanks,
Clark
We have had good luck with that gun. They like the smaller chokes. We set them up with 650 and Win Ex range
I could never get an Indian Creek choke (.665 and .660) to pattern anything to my likeing in my SBE. The best patterning choke I've found is the Jellyhead .655. It gives me 250-300 pellets in a 10" circle @ 40 yards shooting the 3" and 3.5" Hevi-13 #7's. Just make sure you aren't shooting Lot #300488 in the 3.5" loads.
Thanks for the replies guys, I was thinking about picking up a Jellyhead to try as they are pretty cheap to boot too. Anybody else have any reccomendations?
Send that choke back to Inidan Creek and tell them you want a .655 and try that. It's not the choke, it's just the wrong exit diameter for your bore. If that don't work, get a .660. One of them will work.
Thanks guys, I might give IC a call tomorrow and talk to them about a smaller diameter choke. I was also thinking about a Pure Gold or Rhino. Anyone else think I may get better results from one of these. The one thing I don't like about the IC right now is it shoots 8-9 inches low at 40 yards.
Does your Hastings choke shoot low as well? That probably isn't the Indian Creek choke that is casuiong your gun to shoot low. I have heard that Benelli shotguns are known for their poi being off quite a bit from the poa with the factory bead. You would think on a $1300-$1500 shotgun that they would get this right from the factory.
The Hastings choke shoots right on is what caught me by surprise, so it seems to be just the Indian Creek choke. I even tried my dad's same IC choke and the same thing low at 40 yards.
Quote from: greenheadIL on March 24, 2011, 04:15:57 AM
The Hastings choke shoots right on is what caught me by surprise, so it seems to be just the Indian Creek choke. I even tried my dad's same IC choke and the same thing low at 40 yards.
That's odd. My Indian Creek choke and my MAD Super MAX(made by Indian Creek for my 870 both shoot about perfectly deadnut. The Indian Creek .669 BDS shoots probably more so deadnut than the MAD, but it still shoots to about deadnut as well. I have a Indian Creek .675 BDS for my 835 and it shoots right where my Star Dot and Tru-Glo SSX shoots which is low and to the left. I put a Bushnel Tropy 1.5x4x32mm scope on it and it is dialed in with all 3 chokes now. I really like it.
I'll show you how the 870 will shoot with .669 Indian Creek BDS. Just to show you with a bare bead I need no scope on that gun. I love a gun that shoots where you aim it with the factory bead. That's the way it should be. Give me a second.
Here's the Indian Creek choke .669 BDS. Those numbers underneath the big letters is about dead center of the cardboard. These are 10" and 20" circles. Both of these are 3" 2oz #7 loads.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/DSCF00139.jpg)
Here's the MAD Super MAX .675 which is the best shooting choke I have shot so far for my 870.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/DSCF00185.jpg)
POI has more to do with how well your gun bbl. is made more than the extended choke you choose.
But a good solid made choke will help with the problem as well. :icon_thumright:
Quote from: S.C.C on March 24, 2011, 06:00:02 AM
POI has more to do with how well your gun bbl. is made more than the extended choke you choose.
But a good solid made choke will help with the problem as well. :icon_thumright:
That is very true, and whether or not the front bead is the correct height as well for the barrel to shoot more to poa.
This is something we see all the time. Could be a few things. Try the choke in another gun or try a few chokes in your gun. They can be stock chokes just shoot junk shell at 50 feet to let you know. Now try and shoot the gun a few times to see if you can hit same spot over and over.
Now get some one else to shoot the gun. This will let you know if it is you or gun/choke. Some folks will roll the gun left or right. If you dont have anyone to help with the deal of trying to tell if you roll the gun you can aim at a mirror and help your self that way. Some folks not look the rib flat they look down on it and that is a big thing we see with the turkey loads. They not want it to hit them in the face.
If you keep having problems give me a call I will try to help you figure what is going on.
Wow, that 870 pattern is awesome....and yes it is very weird how the Hastings choke and factory chokes shoot dead on and just the Indian Creek shoots low. I know it is not me as I have the gun sitting in a lead sled locked right in, so there is no way I am flinching or doing anything else. As I mentioned I tried my dad's Indian Creek choke in my gun and same thing, it shoots low. I'm thinking about trying another choke or 2 including Rhino, Jellyhead, IC 655, and Pure Gold, but not sure. I may shoot the other shells I have to see what happens. I can always just dial in with my Mueller Quick Shot. Thanks for the help guys.
If you guys had to pick another choke for the SBE from list in my last post which one would you try? Can't decide and was hoping for some more opinions.
Thanks
Quote from: greenheadIL on March 24, 2011, 09:42:43 AM
Wow, that 870 pattern is awesome....and yes it is very weird how the Hastings choke and factory chokes shoot dead on and just the Indian Creek shoots low. I know it is not me as I have the gun sitting in a lead sled locked right in, so there is no way I am flinching or doing anything else. As I mentioned I tried my dad's Indian Creek choke in my gun and same thing, it shoots low. I'm thinking about trying another choke or 2 including Rhino, Jellyhead, IC 655, and Pure Gold, but not sure. I may shoot the other shells I have to see what happens. I can always just dial in with my Mueller Quick Shot. Thanks for the help guys.
It ain't just you. I've had the same problem with IC chokes in several guns. I haven't found one yet that shoots to POA when other brand chokes do in the same guns. I will not buy another one.
Quote from: greenheadIL on March 24, 2011, 12:20:43 PM
If you guys had to pick another choke for the SBE from list in my last post which one would you try? Can't decide and was hoping for some more opinions.
Thanks
Give Sumtoy a shot and let us know how it turns out.
Try shooting that gun off of sandbags and see if the same thing occurs. There is a reason why.
I shot it out of a lead sled, so it wasn't me.
Quote from: greenheadIL on March 24, 2011, 10:00:18 PM
I shot it out of a lead sled, so it wasn't me.
I know, that's why I'm saying try a different set up. It may be due to the way the gun recoils out of the lead sled. Try both chokes off of sandbags or some other type setup.