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Turkey Guns & Shooting => 20 Gauge Turkey Guns => Topic started by: Rudy27325 on March 12, 2015, 10:27:42 PM

Title: TSS#9's Didn't shoot to good!!
Post by: Rudy27325 on March 12, 2015, 10:27:42 PM
870 w/ 21inch barrel, with a 570 jelly head choke, 102 in a 10' circle, 20' circle 210, at 40 yards. What you guys think?
Title: Re: TSS#9's Didn't shoot to good!!
Post by: surehuntsalot on March 12, 2015, 10:35:16 PM
102 with TSS 9's don't sound very good at all from some of the pic's I've seen on here
Title: Re: TSS#9's Didn't shoot to good!!
Post by: msgobblergetter on March 12, 2015, 10:54:26 PM
I've seen this when Mylar wrap in load was either not used or not inserted correctly. Double check your handloading procedure, including shot payload weight.
Title: Re: TSS#9's Didn't shoot to good!!
Post by: Rudy27325 on March 12, 2015, 10:56:51 PM
The load was 1 5/8 oz. #9's...was hope to get around 150 in the 10' circle at 40 yards.
Title: Re: TSS#9's Didn't shoot to good!!
Post by: cutt down on March 12, 2015, 11:26:35 PM
Message sandman he has it figured out.
Title: Re: TSS#9's Didn't shoot to good!!
Post by: 01Foreman400 on March 13, 2015, 07:08:21 AM
What load are you shooting?  Stubby or XL?
Title: Re: TSS#9's Didn't shoot to good!!
Post by: 01Foreman400 on March 13, 2015, 07:10:52 AM
Quote from: msgobblergetter on March 12, 2015, 10:54:26 PM
I've seen this when Mylar wrap in load was either not used or not inserted correctly. Double check your handloading procedure, including shot payload weight.

How do you put the mylar in wrong?
Title: Re: TSS#9's Didn't shoot to good!!
Post by: Dr Juice on March 13, 2015, 07:55:27 AM
You could do better.  :anim_25:
Title: Re: TSS#9's Didn't shoot to good!!
Post by: Rudy27325 on March 13, 2015, 08:55:25 AM
Someone else loaded them.. not me....XL load is what he said
Title: Re: TSS#9's Didn't shoot to good!!
Post by: 01Foreman400 on March 13, 2015, 10:22:39 AM
Hard to say then what went wrong.  how does his gun shoot and how long has he been loading TSS?
Title: Re: TSS#9's Didn't shoot to good!!
Post by: Tinman22 on March 13, 2015, 10:50:48 AM
I've heard that the Jellyheds dont do well with the TSS loads, but with that being said, something is way wrong.

My dad has the exact same gun, but with a remington super full turkey choke. With the same 1 5/8 load this weekend he got 287 in a 10" circle with a dirty barrel, and 305 with a clean barrel at a lasered 40yds...
Title: Re: TSS#9's Didn't shoot to good!!
Post by: Sand Man on March 13, 2015, 11:15:21 AM
Something is definitely wrong.  I've built 8 going on 9 21" barrel 870's, and I've yet to have one shoot less than 300 in the 10 with my TSS hand loads.

Barrel isn't bent is it?   :funnyturkey:
Title: Re: TSS#9's Didn't shoot to good!!
Post by: gophert on March 13, 2015, 11:44:53 AM
Something is not right.  It would be helpful to see the pattern.  My first thought is that you have oil or something in the barrel.  I would run some alcohol swabs down the barrel and make sure its good and dry and re-shoot.  I have seen crazy low#'s when this occurs. I don't think the jellyhead is your problem.  You should be easy getting 250+ even with the Jellyhead.  If you are chasing the kind of numbers 300+...don't wast your time...go buy and IC .555 and be done with it. 

PM me if you have specific questions about the load you are shooting.
Title: Re: TSS#9's Didn't shoot to good!!
Post by: gophert on March 13, 2015, 11:52:57 AM
Quote from: Rudy27325 on March 12, 2015, 10:56:51 PM
The load was 1 5/8 oz. #9's...was hope to get around 150 in the 10' circle at 40 yards.

Oh and you are WAY underestimating your potential. 

(http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/y372/Gophert/Gun%20Patterns/DSC00537.jpg)
Title: Re: TSS#9's Didn't shoot to good!!
Post by: Rudy27325 on March 13, 2015, 03:12:15 PM
The gun was cleaned the night before, no oil it barrel, it was 62deg. when I shot it. Can somebody tell me how to post a picture? so I can get some Help. Thanks
Title: TSS#9's Didn't shoot to good!!
Post by: davisd9 on March 13, 2015, 03:15:36 PM
How big was your target paper?


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Title: Re: TSS#9's Didn't shoot to good!!
Post by: Rudy27325 on March 13, 2015, 03:48:05 PM
Turkey target, it was taped on a 3ft by 3ft piece of cardboard.
Title: TSS#9's Didn't shoot to good!!
Post by: gophert on March 13, 2015, 04:04:55 PM
sign up for an account at photobucket.com....upload pic...paste IMG code in post


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Title: Re: TSS#9's Didn't shoot to good!!
Post by: gobblergls on March 13, 2015, 07:27:27 PM
Did you draw your 10" ring around center mass or around bull's eye?  If around bull's eye, was that center mass?
Title: Re: TSS#9's Didn't shoot to good!!
Post by: msgobblergetter on March 13, 2015, 08:51:18 PM
Quote from: 01Foreman400 on March 13, 2015, 07:10:52 AM
Quote from: msgobblergetter on March 12, 2015, 10:54:26 PM
I've seen this when Mylar wrap in load was either not used or not inserted correctly. Double check your handloading procedure, including shot payload weight.

How do you put the mylar in wrong?

Depends on shell hull length... Some semi's require shorter length hull to cycle correctly and the Mylar may need to be trimmed to accommodate. If Mylar doesn't meet up end to end, it will cause problems... Inconsistency in pattern from shell to shell. Not saying this is the problem, but I've experience this very issue when I first started loading TSS for my 1187.  I believe the problem is with the load, not the gun or choke. A well made TSS load will pattern better than the one shown with just a modified choke, and should be way better with his jellyhead.
Title: Re: TSS#9's Didn't shoot to good!!
Post by: SKFOOTER on March 13, 2015, 09:25:22 PM
Quote from: Rudy27325 on March 13, 2015, 03:12:15 PM
The gun was cleaned the night before, no oil it barrel, it was 62deg. when I shot it. Can somebody tell me how to post a picture? so I can get some Help. Thanks
You will still be amazed what running a few denatured alcohol patches thru that barrel will yield even after a thorough cleaning.  Try it and see how dirty the patches will be.