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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Turkey Guns => Topic started by: Turkasaurus on March 22, 2011, 01:25:52 PM

Title: What went wrong?
Post by: Turkasaurus on March 22, 2011, 01:25:52 PM
New member, long time Turkey addict......   :z-guntootsmiley:

Can't figure out why I never got the pellet count that I anticipated

Remington Super Mag 12ga 23"

Jellyhead .665

Nitro ammo 517T 4x5x7 3.5"

Deep cleaned and polished with steel wool til mirror finish, laser ranged 40 yards, off of sandbags I got 200 pellets at 40 and 75 pellets at 60. Sunny day at 71degrees, humidity at 45-50%.

Any thoughts on a 23" barrel vs other lengths? Would the humidity level do that?
Title: Re: What went wrong?
Post by: archery1 on March 22, 2011, 01:31:17 PM
longr barrels do seem to throw better patterns.. i am not sure about humidity but temperature does affect the counts very much. u will see on here people getting better numbers when the temps are past 70 degrees. i hope this help you
Title: Re: What went wrong?
Post by: stinkpickle on March 22, 2011, 01:36:57 PM
My first suggestion would be to step down to H51013A in straight #7's.  I would do that before changing anything else.  2 7/16oz of shot is a lot to shove down any barrel smaller than a Mossy 835.
Title: Re: What went wrong?
Post by: SKFOOTER on March 22, 2011, 02:02:38 PM
I've been shooting Nitro's for several years.  2 years ago, the #H51013A Straight 7's were putting 400 pellets in a 10" circle @40 yards thru my Benelli SBE/Jellyhead .655 setup.  This year's loads in that same combination are only yielding 250-260.  I've got an email in to Nitro and Letha is going to check with Ray about a component change and get back with me.  Has anyone else had a reduction in their pattern numbers with this year's #H51013A Straight 7 loads???
Title: Re: What went wrong?
Post by: msgobblergetter on March 22, 2011, 02:29:25 PM
Make sure you a shooting the paper first then drawing your 10" circle around the most dense part of your pattern.  This will give you the correct numbers... Also, shoot at least three times to see if your numbers are consistent.
Title: Re: What went wrong?
Post by: bowhunter84 on March 22, 2011, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: msgobblergetter on March 22, 2011, 02:29:25 PM
Make sure you a shooting the paper first then drawing your 10" circle around the most dense part of your pattern.  This will give you the correct numbers... Also, shoot at least three times to see if your numbers are consistent.
:agreed: :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: What went wrong?
Post by: TrackeySauresRex on March 22, 2011, 03:56:02 PM
 :happy0064: Another Dinosore  :wagon: 
Title: Re: What went wrong?
Post by: SKFOOTER on March 22, 2011, 04:06:28 PM
I've been patterning turkey loads for over 30 years fellas,  so I'm very much aware of how to determine pattern density and this year's Nitro #H51013A Straight 7 loads are not patterning as good as the 2009 loads did for me.
Title: Re: What went wrong?
Post by: stinkpickle on March 22, 2011, 04:20:45 PM
Quote from: SKFOOTER on March 22, 2011, 04:06:28 PM
I've been patterning turkey loads for over 30 years fellas,  so I'm very much aware of how to determine pattern density and this year's Nitro #H51013A Straight 7 loads are not patterning as good as the 2009 loads did for me.

:TooFunny:  Are you flinching? 
Title: Re: What went wrong?
Post by: SKFOOTER on March 22, 2011, 04:32:12 PM
That's very doubtful since I'm shooting from a Lead Sled.
Title: Re: What went wrong?
Post by: SKFOOTER on March 22, 2011, 05:43:46 PM
Did you not see my posts above, Slicky???  If he shoots this years loads, the pellet pattern count will be way down from what they should be.
Title: Re: What went wrong?
Post by: sugarray on March 22, 2011, 05:52:08 PM
This is getting interesting.  Little testy.  I like it.   :z-guntootsmiley:
Title: Re: What went wrong?
Post by: stinkpickle on March 22, 2011, 06:26:04 PM
Quote from: SKFOOTER on March 22, 2011, 04:32:12 PM
That's very doubtful since I'm shooting from a Lead Sled.

AHHHH...THAT EXPLAINS IT!!!  You need an HTL Sled!   :D
Title: Re: What went wrong?
Post by: 1esso on March 22, 2011, 06:29:14 PM
Quote from: SKFOOTER on March 22, 2011, 05:43:46 PM
Did you not see my posts above, Slicky???  If he shoots this years loads, the pellet pattern count will be way down from what they should be.
I dont know if slicky seen the post or not, but would try whatever he suggest.
Title: Re: What went wrong?
Post by: njdevilsb on March 22, 2011, 07:19:09 PM
Quote from: stinkpickle on March 22, 2011, 06:26:04 PM
Quote from: SKFOOTER on March 22, 2011, 04:32:12 PM
That's very doubtful since I'm shooting from a Lead Sled.

AHHHH...THAT EXPLAINS IT!!!  You need an HTL Sled!   :D

:TooFunny:
Title: Re: What went wrong?
Post by: S.C.C on March 22, 2011, 07:36:36 PM
Well EM H13's hav'in trouble with patterns and NITRO get their shot from EM SOOOO!!!
They musta got ahold of some bad metal like Indian Creek did!!! :TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
Title: Re: What went wrong?
Post by: SKFOOTER on March 22, 2011, 10:23:51 PM
Just how many moonlighting comics do we have on this forum??  I'd suggest that you not give up your day jobs!! :anim_25:
Title: Re: What went wrong?
Post by: knightrider on March 22, 2011, 10:30:06 PM
 :begging: :deadhorse:
Title: Re: What went wrong?
Post by: archery1 on March 23, 2011, 06:19:57 AM
 :TrainWreck1:
Title: Re: What went wrong?
Post by: HogBiologist on March 23, 2011, 09:40:26 AM
Quote from: SKFOOTER on March 22, 2011, 10:23:51 PM
Just how many moonlighting comics do we have on this forum??  I'd suggest that you not give up your day jobs!! :anim_25:

Two turkey hunters walk into a bar........... :wav:
Title: Re: What went wrong?
Post by: Turkasaurus on March 24, 2011, 01:21:34 PM
Interesting turn of events on my thread  ;D

I'm gonna fire again on a 70-75 degree day with low humidity and go for the pellet count. The Nitro site recommended this setup for my Super Mag and had it for a 270-320 pellet count. So I'll give it another try and I will keep in mind that other load suggestion that was recommended by you fellers.   :z-guntootsmiley: