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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Turkey Guns => Topic started by: knightrider on March 16, 2011, 11:43:51 PM

Title: pattern question?
Post by: knightrider on March 16, 2011, 11:43:51 PM
im shooting a mossy 835 with pg 670 and magblend 3in 2oz. the first shot out of a clean barrel gave me 261 in the 20 in cicle, the next shot about ten minutes later i got 371 in the twenty, the next two were both were over 350 in the twenty. do any of you guys get better numbers with a fouled barrel versus a clean one? :thanks:
Title: Re: pattern question?
Post by: njdevilsb on March 16, 2011, 11:48:38 PM
Was there oil left over in the barrel for your first shot or did you clean it out prior to shooting?  That could have an effect on the first shot.  Some guns just like a dirt barrel though.
Title: Re: pattern question?
Post by: knightrider on March 16, 2011, 11:53:48 PM
Quote from: njdevilsb on March 16, 2011, 11:48:38 PM
Was there oil left over in the barrel for your first shot or did you clean it out prior to shooting?  That could have an effect on the first shot.  Some guns just like a dirt barrel though.
no oil, i never put oil in my gun barrels
Title: Re: pattern question?
Post by: longspur on March 17, 2011, 02:38:28 AM
every one I have any experience with does. thats only 5.
Title: Re: pattern question?
Post by: VAHUNTER on March 17, 2011, 06:16:46 AM
when checking patterns i'm more concerned about keeping the choke clean than the barrel. i have guns that show the same results clean or dirty as well
Title: Re: pattern question?
Post by: S.C.C on March 17, 2011, 06:28:52 AM
Quote from: VAHUNTER on March 17, 2011, 06:16:46 AM
when checking patterns i'm more concerned about keeping the choke clean than the barrel. i have guns that show the same results clean or dirty as well
:agreed:

several of mine shoot best after 4 or 5 shot up to a point then time to snake the bore again.
my 835 likes a clean choke and a filthy bore...It shoots best after I clean and then fire a box
of light loads throught it before the first heavy load!!
Title: Re: pattern question?
Post by: hookedspur on March 17, 2011, 08:05:51 AM
Quote from: VAHUNTER on March 17, 2011, 06:16:46 AM
when checking patterns i'm more concerned about keeping the choke clean than the barrel. i have guns that show the same results clean or dirty as well
:agreed:
Title: Re: pattern question?
Post by: bowhunter84 on March 17, 2011, 08:29:22 AM
the mossy 835 that i had shot better with a dirty barrel
Title: Re: pattern question?
Post by: BHMTitan on March 17, 2011, 11:45:42 AM
So how does this work with the deep cleaning / polishing process?  Those are supposed to be done to improve your patterns.
Title: Re: pattern question?
Post by: Reloader on March 17, 2011, 12:18:35 PM
I like to clean mine thoroughly during pre season prep.  Then I'll pull a snake through about 3 times between shots while patterning.  It gives each shot a more equal bbl condition shot to shot and seems to provide consistency in numbers.

I would try your gun with a clean pipe and with a slightly fouled pipe to see what seems to work.  Like I said, I prefer a consistent bbl condition for each shot, but some guns will pattern quite well when fouled.

Alot of your count differences are due to the ammo inconsistency from shell to shell or lot to lot.
Title: Re: pattern question?
Post by: knightrider on March 17, 2011, 08:10:56 PM
Quote from: Reloader on March 17, 2011, 12:18:35 PM
I like to clean mine thoroughly during pre season prep.  Then I'll pull a snake through about 3 times between shots while patterning.  It gives each shot a more equal bbl condition shot to shot and seems to provide consistency in numbers.

I would try your gun with a clean pipe and with a slightly fouled pipe to see what seems to work.  Like I said, I prefer a consistent bbl condition for each shot, but some guns will pattern quite well when fouled.

Alot of your count differences are due to the ammo inconsistency from shell to shell or lot to lot.
same lots it happens every time on first shot versus next three shots so i dont think hevi is to blame
Title: Re: pattern question?
Post by: 3.5inchpainfulldeath on March 17, 2011, 09:12:07 PM
My gun shoots best with a couple rounds through the barrel before a swab...  depends on the gun, choke, shell...  lot's of variables..