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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Turkey Guns => Topic started by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on March 31, 2014, 06:17:55 PM

Title: Question about Patternmaster Code Black Internal Choke Design
Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on March 31, 2014, 06:17:55 PM
What do the Internals of the Choke look like?  I know it's ported, but does it have any Wad Catchers, Straight Rifling, etc.?  What is making it throw these great patterns that I'm seeing posted? 
Title: Re: Question about Patternmaster Code Black Internal Choke Design
Post by: forcercon1 on March 31, 2014, 07:52:59 PM
I'm not sure what makes it a good or bad choke, but it does have an internal wad catcher design. The internals looks to have 4 internal rings that slow the wad. The choke is not rifled.
Title: Re: Question about Patternmaster Code Black Internal Choke Design
Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on March 31, 2014, 09:29:46 PM
Quoteit does have an internal wad catcher design. The internals looks to have 4 internal rings that slow the wad.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Question about Patternmaster Code Black Internal Choke Design
Post by: shotgun_oly on March 31, 2014, 09:49:43 PM
I don't own one but found a pic of it for ya :funnyturkey:
Title: Re: Question about Patternmaster Code Black Internal Choke Design
Post by: mossyoakpro on March 31, 2014, 10:01:06 PM
Sent you a pm 870 SS....
Title: Re: Question about Patternmaster Code Black Internal Choke Design
Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on April 01, 2014, 09:26:38 AM
Thanks for the photo.  It has Wad Catcher Rings like Indian Creek uses in their chokes.  They are also present in the TruGlo SSX chokes.  I believe that SumToy also uses these in some of his chokes as well. 

These are all the rage in the turkeyshoot / cardshoot world. 
Title: Re: Question about Patternmaster Code Black Internal Choke Design
Post by: Turkey Trot on April 01, 2014, 01:58:39 PM
This the copy written to promote the CB choke on P'master's website:

http://www.patternmaster.com/products/5138_12ga_Remington__665_Turkey_CODE_BLACK

P'master chokes for steel and other non-tox shot been big among duck hunters for a number of years.  I'm surprised it doesn't have a bigger foothold in turkey hunting, but the price is an issue.   
Title: Re: Question about Patternmaster Code Black Internal Choke Design
Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on April 01, 2014, 02:15:29 PM
It took me a little while to get to the point of being willing to spend $75-$80 on an Indian Creek choke.  The SSX and Jelly Head chokes are more in the price range of the average guy like me.  However, I was pleased with the level of performance I got from Indian Creek chokes.

Rhino chokes, Patternmaster Chokes, JEBS Headhunter chokes, etc. take their pricing to an even higher level that I'm just not sure I can justify within my budget.

But I do respect performance.  Maybe one day.  Indian Creek and SumToy are more in line with the maximum amount I'm willing to spend.
Title: Re: Question about Patternmaster Code Black Internal Choke Design
Post by: outdoors on April 01, 2014, 02:41:51 PM
IVE ORDERED A PATTERNMASTER  FOR MY MOSSBERG 930 FREE SHIPPING FOR $85
I DONT THINK THATS ALL THAT MUCH ........ 
Title: Re: Question about Patternmaster Code Black Internal Choke Design
Post by: mcgruff1533 on April 01, 2014, 06:04:01 PM
I have zero experience with Patternmaster, Rhino, Jebs or Sumtoy chokes.       I too thought paying $75 + for a choke was just plain crazy... until I cashed in some of my Bass Pro Shop points and bought an Indian Creek .660" choke for my Mossy 535 with a 20" barrel.

The difference in pattern density and uniformity was night and day compared with several chokes I had previously tried.     The only choke that even came close was a .643 SSX.     In the end, I wish I skipped all the B.S. and bought the Indian Creek choke from the start.    It would have saved me hundreds of dollars lost to pattern testing countless choke and load combos.
Title: Re: Question about Patternmaster Code Black Internal Choke Design
Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on April 01, 2014, 06:40:48 PM
QuoteFREE SHIPPING FOR $85

With that Discount, that's almost down to the price of an Indian Creek choke.  If Indian Creek users keep posting that the Code Black is outshooting their Indian Creek chokes, I'll be tempted to take the plunge one day.  I still want to try a SumToy too.
Title: Re: Question about Patternmaster Code Black Internal Choke Design
Post by: the Ward on April 01, 2014, 07:33:21 PM
Sumtoy all the way!!
Title: Re: Question about Patternmaster Code Black Internal Choke Design
Post by: wibirdhunter on April 06, 2014, 12:36:10 PM
What's weird is the code black has the rings inside as pictured above plus is ported but they advertise it as a choke you can use flight control wads with and out of my a400 the code black does shoot a very solid pattern with federal fc lead loads.

As far as price I paid 85 total and it was dropped shipped from the factory to my house within 2 days. Indian Creek is around the same plus shipping for my gun. Even a carlsons is 90 for this gun.
Title: Question about Patternmaster Code Black Internal Choke Design
Post by: VaTuRkStOmPeR on April 07, 2014, 09:07:42 AM
Sumtoy or Rhino are the only two chokes ill ever put in another gun I own.

Rhino is probably the best, most consistently performing choke on the market hands down, though.