Which one do most of yall like. I like the velocity of the federals best being 1300 vs 1090 of the hevi shot. I have 9 different choke to test these in just curious which is most used.
I would say the federals if they didn't come in the flight control wad. Just comparing shot to shot the federal is more dense and will outperform the Hevi #7s
Federal needs to put the exact same type wad but a little thicker that they used to put in the old gold/blue box Federal Premiums that shot so well and start making the 3.5" in a 2.25oz load. Until Federal does this, most folks won't shoot them.
I'm using the Feds, shooting them out of a 870 SM with a Trulock Non Ported .650 tube and love em!
I have used Fed Heavyweight #7 for 3 years now. They are absolutely devastating,at 40 yds they blew clean threw my 7/16 osb backer.I too use the Trulock choke made for the Fed Heavyweight. Lee
I have almost identical patterns with 3", 140+ in the ten with multiple guns and chokes with the Federal HW 7's. comments from others on how hard they hit the 3/4" 40x40" target board at the range.
The 20 gauge does 160 in the 10" with FED HW 7's and with no fuss. 21" 870 RSF.
I would think the 1300fps would be better?
Have taken alot of turkeys with hevi 6's in the 20 gauge and they are slower , but perform very well on turkeys and the board, good kills
It's no contest in my honest opinion between the 2. Yep the Fed HW shot is denser, but there is less of them in the load meaning a lot less hits as well.
I myself would rather have the Hevi-13 #7's. That equates to about 200 more shot inside the 20". No way a gobbler will escape that.
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Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on March 02, 2014, 06:27:15 PM
It's no contest in my honest opinion between the 2. Yep the Fed HW shot is denser, but there is less of them in the load meaning a lot less hits as well.
I myself would rather have the Hevi-13 #7's. That equates to about 200 more shot inside the 20". No way a gobbler will escape that.
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So true, before i shot the Fed Heavyweight i shot Hevi #7.. I got tired of worrying about lot numbers year to year. I found that with the Heavyweight i dont have to worry about it. They shot the same in my guns (i dont even look for lot numbers). Yes they dont put up the big numbers but they are consistant day in and day out. Lee
That's why you stock up on the good stuff while you can. I just bought 4 more boxes of the older good stuff. It won't out shoot the 300325, but it will still do 300 or more in the 10".
And truthfully Federal hasn't exactly listened to the turkey hunters out there that have told them to ditch the flite control wad now have they? So it's not just a Hevi-13 issue now is it? They are just as bad as Hevi-13 when changing a good thing.
They still have yet to offer a 2.25oz load in the 7's. Now why is that when most want it? Answer - they don't listen to what the turkey hunters want.
I dont have an issue with EM or Federal , I just choose to use the Heavyweight. Lee
Quote from: wvnut3 on March 02, 2014, 06:47:35 PM
I dont have an issue with EM or Federal , I just choose to use the Heavyweight. Lee
I din't mean you had a personal issue with EM. I was stating that Hevi-13 has an issue with changing a good thing as well. So both need to stop messing with their loads when they have a good thing. That's all I was saying.
all is good. Lee
In a 12 ga. Hevi-13 hands down. In a 20 ga. Heavyweights hands down.
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From what I've been told -- Federal needs that thick wad because the shot material is so hard - it's a liability issue I guess?
I've shot both shells with good results , the major difference is that the federal hw in conjunction with the FCW is one finicky shell , there are stellar performers though , I'm not sure of all of them but in 12 ga the Trulock 65O is like gold , in 20 ga the sumtoy and the ssx , and in 10 gauge the kicks 690 and sometimes kicks 685 - it's good shell you just got to work harder to get it to perform
The hevishot h13 in size #7 is a outstanding shell , and shoots in most turkey chokes well , and throws out a mass of pellets - with good knockdown out to reasonable ranges - the size 6 will give your more fudge factor -
To give you my opinion to your question they are both good , the hevishot 7 will give you more pellets on the average and do it easily with many chokes , while the fed #7 will work very well only with certain chokes
good post OG
Each load has it's own pluses and minuses.
We all seem to find what we like? Well sooner or later.
I've always been curious as to why "everyone" is so hung up on having 2 1/4 oz of shot in a shell? I guess if you're hung up on numbers, that would be an issue.
I'm perfectly satisfied with the FCW and the current payload in the HW loads, they hammer birds!
Quote from: PALongspur on March 02, 2014, 08:36:15 PM
I've always been curious as to why "everyone" is so hung up on having 2 1/4 oz of shot in a shell? I guess if you're hung up on numbers, that would be an issue.
I'm perfectly satisfied with the FCW and the current payload in the HW loads, they hammer birds!
No different in racing in why they keep making cars faster and why everybody wants a fast car now don't you reckon? A dragster from the 80's is a VW against todays dragsters.
Well In 12ga I would pick the HV13 and 20ga I would take the Federal.
And if Hevi-13 would make a 1.5oz #7 20GA load like Federal does, then most would likely pick the Hevi-13 I would bet.
Tested with allot of different gun/choke combos with the hevi 7's and fed HW 7's. These were my results:
204 in a 10 @ 40 Fed 7's
333 in a 10 @ 40. Hevi 7's
184 in a 10 @ 40 Fed 7's (20 guage)
The 130+ shot in a 10 @ 40 made the 12g Hevi 7's a must hunt load out of Beretta Xtrema and the Fed 7's were a must hunt load out of my Beretta 20 guage. Both of these guns have the hevi 13 chokes.
Quote from: SumToy on March 02, 2014, 09:46:07 PM
Well In 12ga I would pick the HV13 and 20ga I would take the Federal.
Same here.
Thanks guys I have some of the fed for the 20 but looks like im gonna try both in my 12s. The velocity of the hevi 13 kinda has me worried as they are not very heavy. I wish hevi would step up their velocity.
Quote from: scdxt on March 02, 2014, 10:22:55 PM
Thanks guys I have some of the fed for the 20 but looks like im gonna try both in my 12s. The velocity of the hevi 13 kinda has me worried as they are not very heavy. I wish hevi would step up their velocity.
Nothing wrong with the velocity of the hevi. They kill with no problem. If it concerns you then use something else but many of gobblers have died and will do of hevi with no issues.
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Quote from: SumToy on March 02, 2014, 09:46:07 PM
Well In 12ga I would pick the HV13 and 20ga I would take the Federal.
Thats what I have decided on too.
+2.....it's been tested a lot my many of us... the Fed HW, #7, 1.5oz is hard to beat in a 20ga. On the other hand.. I would only shoot HEVI 13, #7 in a 12ga
Both shells work but I like the consistency of the Hevi-13 shells much better.
Thanks,
Clark
I shoot both in 2 different guns, my SX-2 loves the hevi, 7 shot in 3 in. with a .670 Jelly head, and the single shot New England 3.5 with a full choke loves the fed, 7 shot, I am partial to the Federals with the 1300 fps, faster hits harder ,the hevi 7 ,s shoot a tighter pattern, but the feds kill just as good or better,some were beyond the 40 yd. mark and were stone cold dead at the shot. I will take them both any time.
I'd take Fed HW 7's any day of the week over H13