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Title: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: MikeStaten on February 23, 2014, 10:55:12 AM
Are most of you using beads, sights or scopes?
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: stinkpickle on February 23, 2014, 10:57:11 AM
I use Williams Fire Sights.  I might try a red dot someday.
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: ILIKEHEVI-13 on February 23, 2014, 11:08:03 AM
I got a TruGlo dot sight on my 835 and love it.  I like the looks of the new Weaver Mico Dot.  But this TruGlo holds its zero and does well for the price. 

(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/medium/DSCF0228_Medium_.jpg)

I don't even shoot it anymore before the season to test its zero due to the last 2 times I checked it it was deadnut.  I do check the screws with my torque driver just to make sure all are still tight.   

Examples

(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/DSCF5178.JPG)
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/DSCF5071.jpg)

I have 100% confidence where I put the dot is where my pattern will go.  I aim at center of waddle area.

Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: ILIKEHEVI-13 on February 23, 2014, 11:22:20 AM
Now on my 870 Express 3" gun I just use the bead since it shoots about deadnut at any yardage. 

(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/medium/DSCF0036_Medium_.jpg)

Examples

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Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: drum817 on February 23, 2014, 12:09:35 PM
I have Mil Spec ghost ring sights on my Weatherby pa-459 & Williams fire sights on my 835.
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: budtripp on February 23, 2014, 01:06:48 PM
If the gun shoots dead on point of impact the double bead is plenty sufficient for me. My sbe2 shoots a bit high so I use tru glo magnum gobble dot sights on it. Never saw the use of a scope on a shotgun unless it was for shooting slugs at deer
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: chipper on February 23, 2014, 01:23:00 PM
My SX3  shoots center of pattern to p.o.a so I just use beads on it and my 870 but ageing eyes may force me to a speed bead in a year or 2.
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: ILIKEHEVI-13 on February 23, 2014, 01:24:30 PM
Quote from: budtripp on February 23, 2014, 01:06:48 PM
If the gun shoots dead on point of impact the double bead is plenty sufficient for me. My sbe2 shoots a bit high so I use tru glo magnum gobble dot sights on it. Never saw the use of a scope on a shotgun unless it was for shooting slugs at deer

I agree to an extent if the bead shoots deadnut.  But I would trust a dot sight or scope more than I would those adjustable sights staying on and tight. 
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on February 23, 2014, 01:37:27 PM
Just the factory bead.  870 & BPS.
Title: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: mudhen on February 23, 2014, 03:04:46 PM
Beads on my SBE II, Burris Fast Fires on my BPS & Super Vinci...

mudhen
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: surehuntsalot on February 23, 2014, 06:43:31 PM
fiber optics on all of my guns
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: mikejd on February 23, 2014, 06:46:05 PM
Mike, I shoot just beads. That said I have a few chokes that throw incredible patterns yet the POI is off center so I dont use those chokes.
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: Greenshed Longbeard on February 23, 2014, 07:18:45 PM
Fiber optic sights on my 870's no need for a scope yet
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: jakesdad on February 23, 2014, 07:35:11 PM
Have hunted with bead only on my 870 12 and fiber optic front sight on my 870 20.Did install Williams sights on the 12 to use with the Longbeards when I get a chance to test them.If they shoot pretty tight,i'll leave them on,more for a make sure I got my head down  more than anything.If they arent as tight as some have shown here and equal other loads I have shot,it may be back to the bead.
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: blueridgegobbler on February 23, 2014, 08:20:16 PM
tru glo magnum gobble dot sights mount to rib never had any problems had them on a few guns for 4-5 years. Tried a red dot and did not like it.
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: MikeStaten on February 23, 2014, 08:23:50 PM
Ok been using just the bead on my benelli and I'll continue to do so.  Shoots a bit high but I just aim a few inches low.
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: turkey_picker on February 23, 2014, 08:28:47 PM
(http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu115/mesims2002/TrugloRedDot4.jpg) (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mesims2002/media/TrugloRedDot4.jpg.html)(http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu115/mesims2002/TrugloRedDot.jpg) (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mesims2002/media/TrugloRedDot.jpg.html)




Truglo Red Dot is nice when you have bad eyes. :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: gophert on February 23, 2014, 08:57:52 PM
Miss a few, and you will get a red dot.  Burris Fast Fire's on all my 870's.
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: Longshanks on February 23, 2014, 09:04:15 PM
Quote from: blueridgegobbler on February 23, 2014, 08:20:16 PM
tru glo magnum gobble dot sights mount to rib never had any problems had them on a few guns for 4-5 years. Tried a red dot and did not like it.

That's my story, have the tru glo on several guns. I shoot double beads on one of my turkey guns and it's the only one that the POA/POI is dead on. Screw in tight constriction turkey chokes and run high-powered HTL and Pb, the majority of my guns have required dialing in with adjustable sights.
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: bushwhacker on February 23, 2014, 09:51:55 PM
Tru Glo pro series sights on my 21" and 23" barreled 870's and beads on the 26" and 28" 870's. Have had a set of tru Glo sights on one of my guns for 12 years and they have never come loose and I have never adjusted them.
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: WildSpur on February 23, 2014, 11:43:36 PM
I have tried everything except a ghost ring sight.  I currently shoot a ff2 and love it.  I like the precision it gives me.

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Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: eddie234 on February 24, 2014, 09:33:15 AM
I just bought a set of the tru glo gobbler dots. They seem well made, i currently have a set of the tru glo stick on's, i'll be using them this spring and put on the gobbler dots this summer.

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Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: beagler on February 24, 2014, 08:15:19 PM
I have an Aimpoint 9000SC red dot on both my Benelli SBE 2 and Mossberg 835. Love the sight.
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: jdavenp3 on February 24, 2014, 09:02:18 PM
Used Hi-Viz TriViz last year. They were pretty good, could have been better... Going to jump on the FastFire 3 train this year and see what it is about.
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: Gobble! on February 25, 2014, 11:31:34 AM
Bushnell Red/Green Dot
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: Gooserbat on February 25, 2014, 11:48:03 AM
Truglo Magnum Gobble Dots for me.  I sure with that name was shorter like TG-MGD
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: Matt81302 on February 25, 2014, 07:34:12 PM
After having my adjustable sights come loose on my 835 last year and missing 2 toms in one day. I'm going with a scope this season. So far I really like.
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: Frank G on February 27, 2014, 10:20:59 AM
Quote from: beagler on February 24, 2014, 08:15:19 PM
I have an Aimpoint 9000SC red dot on both my Benelli SBE 2 and Mossberg 835. Love the sight.

Beagler,
I'm with you on the AimPoint 9000  :icon_thumright:
Just "perched" one on my new TK2000  :icon_thumright: Also have them on my S&W 460, T/C muzzle loader pistol and a 30-30 lever action. IMO there is no finer Red Dot out there.

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Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: SKFOOTER on February 27, 2014, 10:33:17 AM
I have Williams Universal Fire Sights on all of my turkey guns. :OGturkeyhead:
Title: Re: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: ericjames on February 27, 2014, 10:37:57 AM
Quote from: Gooserbat on February 25, 2014, 11:48:03 AM
Truglo Magnum Gobble Dots for me.  I sure with that name was shorter like TG-MGD

I liked mine, the only problem I ever had with them was the front sight fiber optic broke and fell out of them 2 different times. It's no problem all you have to do is get another piece of fiber optic burn one end cut it about an 1/8" long burn that end and you ate ready to go again. I got mine from a local archery shop. I replaced both of mine with fastfire's
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: MikeStaten on February 27, 2014, 10:43:07 AM
I'd add a sight to mine but it's a bit of a pain taking it off after turkey season and re-sighting it in before turkey season, plus it get's expensive shooting these rounds that are $5+ a piece.  I may look for a sight that I can remove easily and put it back on the rib without impacting the zero too much.  That way it will only take a few rounds to get it zeroed each season.
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: SCDieselDawg on February 27, 2014, 10:46:43 AM
I'm running a scope on my main gun, red dot on the back up. And Fiber optic sights on the 20s.
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: trkehunr93 on February 27, 2014, 11:00:02 AM
Scope on my 835, factory bead on my 500.
Title: Re: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: Frank G on February 27, 2014, 11:17:04 AM
Quote from: ericjames on February 27, 2014, 10:37:57 AM
Quote from: Gooserbat on February 25, 2014, 11:48:03 AM
Truglo Magnum Gobble Dots for me.  I sure with that name was shorter like TG-MGD

I liked mine, the only problem I ever had with them was the front sight fiber optic broke and fell out of them 2 different times. It's no problem all you have to do is get another piece of fiber optic burn one end cut it about an 1/8" long burn that end and you ate ready to go again. I got mine from a local archery shop. I replaced both of mine with fastfire's

Had the same issue with them on my duck gun. Same fix as you BUT what I did was to place a small dab of clear silicon under both front and rear. Holds them in place nicely also absorbs shock no visibility problems at all.  :icon_thumright: Worked for me and you can still remove them if need be.
Title: Re: Re: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: ericjames on February 27, 2014, 01:25:32 PM
Quote from: Frank G on February 27, 2014, 11:17:04 AM
Quote from: ericjames on February 27, 2014, 10:37:57 AM
Quote from: Gooserbat on February 25, 2014, 11:48:03 AM
Truglo Magnum Gobble Dots for me.  I sure with that name was shorter like TG-MGD

I liked mine, the only problem I ever had with them was the front sight fiber optic broke and fell out of them 2 different times. It's no problem all you have to do is get another piece of fiber optic burn one end cut it about an 1/8" long burn that end and you ate ready to go again. I got mine from a local archery shop. I replaced both of mine with fastfire's

Had the same issue with them on my duck gun. Same fix as you BUT what I did was to place a small dab of clear silicon under both front and rear. Holds them in place nicely also absorbs shock no visibility problems at all.  :icon_thumright: Worked for me and you can still remove them if need be.



That's a pretty good idea..
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: nate829 on February 28, 2014, 03:55:16 PM
I use a truglo glo-dot fiber optic sight on my Browning BPS
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: SKFOOTER on February 28, 2014, 04:23:47 PM
Quote from: MikeStaten on February 27, 2014, 10:43:07 AM
I'd add a sight to mine but it's a bit of a pain taking it off after turkey season and re-sighting it in before turkey season, plus it get's expensive shooting these rounds that are $5+ a piece.  I may look for a sight that I can remove easily and put it back on the rib without impacting the zero too much.  That way it will only take a few rounds to get it zeroed each season.
In that case just get a Hi-Viz Fiber Optic front sight that is held on by magnets and made specifically for the rib width of your barrel; easily attached and easily removed. :OGturkeyhead:
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: Sparkchaser427 on February 28, 2014, 09:03:01 PM
I just a standard bead. Nothing to break.
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: Longshanks on February 28, 2014, 09:21:52 PM
Quote from: bushwhacker on February 23, 2014, 09:51:55 PM
Tru Glo pro series sights on my 21" and 23" barreled 870's and beads on the 26" and 28" 870's. Have had a set of tru Glo sights on one of my guns for 12 years and they have never come loose and I have never adjusted them.

Gotta love that, 4 870's set up for turkey hunting..that's a turkey hunter that means business. :fud:
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: djenkins32 on March 01, 2014, 08:51:59 AM
tru glo red dot on mine
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on March 01, 2014, 10:15:28 AM
I have a sighting device of some kind on ALL of my turkey guns.  I shoot instinctively with no sights for all my wingshooting, but then you aren't AIMING a gun at a goose or duck crossing in front of you at 35 mph.  You DO however NEED to aim at turkey's head with today's super tight patterning guns imo, ESPECIALLY if he's within 25 yards as the pattern can be as small as the diameter of a basketball or smaller at those close distances.   I like red dot type sights.  Easy to use, reliable and though, yes, they do take batteries, if you take the time to replace them every few years, you should never have an issue.  Now if you don't like them just because you keep forgeting to turn the darn things on, then I don't know what to tell ya. 
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: 7magmike on March 04, 2014, 07:30:00 PM
I am using the dead ringer beard buster sights and realy like them, they are very visible in low light.
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: tnturkey on March 04, 2014, 11:20:26 PM
on my Mossberg I shoot dead ringers on it. on my stoeger straight bead.
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: cnette01 on March 05, 2014, 09:31:46 AM
I just use the standard bead on both of my Brownings, BPS and Gold.  I did send the BPS back to Browning to have it adjusted to POA with the bead.  It was 18 to 24 inches high at 30 and 40 yards when I purchased it, but Browning fixed it for me and it is dead on now at 40 yards.  I use a Jelly Head .665 choke tube on the Gold and the pattern is open enough that I have shot birds out of the air a few times in the fall seasons and at least once in the spring season.  The time that it happened in the spring season, my son had just shot one of three jakes that came into our decoys.  The other two jakes ran back to the left and we couldn't see them anymore due to some brush between them and us.  I expected those jakes to come back to their buddy who was down, but they flushed instead and I shot one of them out of the air.  I will never forget doubling with my son on a hunt!
Title: Re: guys shooting these tight patterns - using beads or sights?
Post by: SKFOOTER on March 05, 2014, 09:33:24 AM
Quote from: cnette01 on March 05, 2014, 09:31:46 AM
I just use the standard bead on both of my Brownings, BPS and Gold.  I did send the BPS back to Browning to have it adjusted to POA with the bead.  It was 18 to 24 inches high at 30 and 40 yards when I purchased it, but Browning fixed it for me and it is dead on now at 40 yards.  I use a Jelly Head .665 choke tube on the Gold and the pattern is open enough that I have shot birds out of the air a few times in the fall seasons and at least once in the spring season.  The time that it happened in the spring season, my son had just shot one of three jakes that came into our decoys.  The other two jakes ran back to the left and we couldn't see them anymore due to some brush between them and us.  I expected those jakes to come back to their buddy who was down, but they flushed instead and I shot one of them out of the air.  I will never forget doubling with my son on a hunt!
The tightest Jellyhead choke for the Browning Gold is a .670. :OGturkeyhead: