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Title: Should I be mad?
Post by: MouthCaller on February 21, 2014, 07:04:36 PM
My new shot gun came in today from buds after I got home to start looking at the barrel it had been shot what looks like several times and it wasn't cleaned. It's going to take a brush to maybe get the stuff out of the barrel the choke was not properly greased before it was put in. So I'm sitting here cleaning a brand new gun supposedly brand new and I'm pretty aggravated that it looks like this.

Here it is I just got the scope mounted. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/22/ete8u4y8.jpg)
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Title: Re: Should I be mad?
Post by: matchbook454 on February 21, 2014, 07:17:06 PM
What gun was it?  Not that it has anyrhing to do with it imo.  Just curious.  I'd take pics, email and complain.
Title: Re: Should I be mad?
Post by: MouthCaller on February 21, 2014, 07:20:31 PM
Mossberg tactical 935

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Post by: Old Gobbler on February 21, 2014, 07:31:15 PM
I bought a brand new versa max ( Remington ) sealed in the box - it was shot and tested at the factory I presume ?
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Post by: jmasters on February 21, 2014, 07:33:03 PM
I'd call them and ask if they normally ship there guns in that condition.   
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Post by: redarrow on February 21, 2014, 07:47:12 PM
My brand new CVA ml took me 3 hours to clean.I ain't never seen a brand new gun that filthy.
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Post by: MouthCaller on February 21, 2014, 07:55:57 PM
Ok buds swears that they do not fire guns at their place that if if had been fired it was done so by the manufacturer theoretically if this gun had been shot at the factory and say in this box over a year I can see it looking like this I'm pretty disappointed though.

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Post by: surehuntsalot on February 21, 2014, 08:01:49 PM
I would be,the manufacturer will fire a weapon to test it,kind of like a weapon function test,usually just once or twice.
I got mt NEW gun in that shape,I would be pissed.
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Post by: AndyH on February 21, 2014, 09:28:53 PM
This is very typical for Mossberg shotguns to be very dirty straight out of the box. I used to work partime in a gun store and sold a ton of mossbergs.
Title: Should I be mad?
Post by: ALfwlmth on February 21, 2014, 10:31:13 PM
The best thing to do in that situation would be to let me take that off your hands until you cool down. I think a fair amount of time would be, I don't know, bout 70 days from now.  Seriously, I've been shooting turkeys with my Xtrema for along time and really want a "turkey" gun. And I REALLY like that exact gun.
If you don't mind me asking, "What brought you to purchasing that gun?"


Some do, some don't. What's it gonna be?
Title: Re: Should I be mad?
Post by: FullChoke on February 21, 2014, 11:08:42 PM
Yes, you have every right to be mad. You also have every right to NOT be mad. Your choice.

If the only thing you have to do to that gun is clean the barrel, well then, clean the barrel. Most guns being manufactured today come from the factory needing a complete strip down and thorough cleaning, inside and out.

Give her her first bath and enjoy your new gun. It's beautiful. :)
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Post by: davisd9 on February 21, 2014, 11:11:56 PM
Got other things to worry about over a gun I can clean. Good luck.

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Post by: eman375 on February 21, 2014, 11:20:53 PM
It is disappointing that the manufacturer would allow a gun to leave the factory like that but the gun industry as a whole is just trying to crank them out to meet demand.  I wouldn't sweat the fact that it's dirty because that's an easy fix.  Just hope the gun meets your expectations mechanically.  You bought a Mossberg so you know they are workhorses and that is ultimately what you want--a gun you can rely on in the field.  Good luck and enjoy!
Title: Re: Should I be mad?
Post by: Kilchis on February 21, 2014, 11:30:50 PM
Don't berate your dealer, it's apparently not an unusual Mossberg practice to ship dirty product.  I bought a Mossy 535 turkey/duck combo from a well-respected local retailer about 3 - 4 years ago.  When I got to looking at it at home I was shocked at how filthy it was.  Called the gun guy, with whom I had been doing business for 20 years, started to rag on him for selling a used gun as new and he explained that it was just S O P for Mossberg.  I talked to some other folks and they had the same response.

Both barrels looked like they had been used in a long competition shoot, the threads on all three chokes were clogged with a rusty-looking crud that had visible metal particles embedded in it, and the threads in both barrels were the same.

One would think that the manufacturer would have some degree of concern about the face they present to the buying public, but I guess they figure that once you have the gun you're pretty much stuck with it. 

Nevertheless, thus far I like the gun, though if the opportunity to swap the duck barrel for a slug barrel came up I'd jump all over it since my duck days are long past. 

My suggestion, take a deep breath and clean up your new baby.  That way you'll know it was done right.
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Post by: Skeeterbait on February 21, 2014, 11:42:48 PM
I happen to be sitting here tonight working on the exact same new gun.  I will be polishing the bore in the morning to clean it out.  Like yours it is caked on the inside of the bore.  The action is full of heavy oil also, I recommend you dissasemble it and clean the oil out of it.  This is indeed typical of Mossbergs.  I also own two 835's and they were the same condition new.  Good news is they clean up fine.

Now I did run into a problem you may need to look into.  I mounted a Mossberg Picatinny Rail on mine and the front screws were too long.  Yes I used the proper two shorter screws and they were still too long.  They locked the barrel into the action like set screws.  I ground them off, cleaned the threads and reblued the screws.  Everything is fine now but that is something I shouldn't have had to do.  If you are using a Mossberg Picatinny rail check this out.  If yours are too long you can do what I did, or have a gunsmith correct it.  This to me is worth a complaint to Mossberg which I will be calling in first thing Monday morning.
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Post by: MouthCaller on February 22, 2014, 04:16:02 AM
Quote from: ALfwlmth on February 21, 2014, 10:31:13 PM
The best thing to do in that situation would be to let me take that off your hands until you cool down. I think a fair amount of time would be, I don't know, bout 70 days from now.  Seriously, I've been shooting turkeys with my Xtrema for along time and really want a "turkey" gun. And I REALLY like that exact gun.
If you don't mind me asking, "What brought you to purchasing that gun?"


Some do, some don't. What's it gonna be?
I used to own a Mossberg 500 thumb hole stock and loved it and just from experience I know I like shooting semi auto better than pump. That pistol grip stock is gonna be awesome for holding a long time waiting on a bird.

Quote from: Skeeterbait on February 21, 2014, 11:42:48 PM
I happen to be sitting here tonight working on the exact same new gun.  I will be polishing the bore in the morning to clean it out.  Like yours it is caked on the inside of the bore.  The action is full of heavy oil also, I recommend you dissasemble it and clean the oil out of it.  This is indeed typical of Mossbergs.  I also own two 835's and they were the same condition new.  Good news is they clean up fine.

Now I did run into a problem you may need to look into.  I mounted a Mossberg Picatinny Rail on mine and the front screws were too long.  Yes I used the proper two shorter screws and they were still too long.  They locked the barrel into the action like set screws.  I ground them off, cleaned the threads and reblued the screws.  Everything is fine now but that is something I shouldn't have had to do.  If you are using a Mossberg Picatinny rail check this out.  If yours are too long you can do what I did, or have a gunsmith correct it.  This to me is worth a complaint to Mossberg which I will be calling in first thing Monday morning.
Yes I have the same problem and guys done of you are saying just clean it no big deal but I scrubbed that barrel fire an hour and it will NOT come clean for about the first 1/4 to 1/3 of the barrel length. Choke did have rusty gritty crap too but I'm using a different choke. I've got it cleaned best I can I might attack it again this evening but I just want aware this could happen.

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Post by: DirtNap647 on February 22, 2014, 06:20:37 AM
me personally I would be a little mad its shot not every gun is brought new to the store shot so I would wanna know why yours is
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Post by: archery1 on February 22, 2014, 08:03:06 AM
clean it up,,,get some shells and kill some birds..that dirty barrel will be long behind ya...
good luck with the patterns!!!!!!
Title: Re: Should I be mad?
Post by: Skeeterbait on February 22, 2014, 01:11:35 PM
Mine was like yours, black oxide from chamber to the gas ports.  This morning I used the method outlined in the turkey gun forum.  I chucked a cleaning rod in a drill, used a 20 gauge brush and scotch brite treated with Kroil and JB bore cleaner.  I wrapped the barrel in a towel and chucked it in a gun vice.  Worked on it for about 30 minutes and the bore now shines like a mirror from chamber to choke.  I have had good results using this method before on two 835's.  Your not going to brush it out by hand.
Title: Re: Should I be mad?
Post by: BowBendr on February 22, 2014, 03:34:34 PM
Quote from: Skeeterbait on February 22, 2014, 01:11:35 PMYour not going to brush it out by hand.

Skeeter is exactly right. I've got two 835's that required a lot of elbow grease to clean up before I even started the polishing process. Both came new from the factory extremely filthy. It's been years ago and i've forgotten all about it. Polish that joker up and smash some beaks !  :icon_thumright:
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Post by: RutnNStrutn on February 22, 2014, 05:17:47 PM
I would be!! I've never bought any gun, new or used, that wasn't clean. I'd be furious if I bought a brand new gun that was filthy. Then again, I've never owned a Mossburg. Personally, I'd call Mossburg and demand a new barrel at the minimum.
Title: Re: Should I be mad?
Post by: MouthCaller on February 24, 2014, 06:16:12 AM
I used the how to polish threads method of cleaning it and I could've done it a few more times than what I did but she sparkles now. I did spend no less than 4 hours cleaning just the barrel total. I had to use some different stuff than what the tutorial said cause I couldn't find it.

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Post by: Xcal1ber on February 24, 2014, 06:44:09 AM
Bud's is one of the most popular places one this planet to buy a firearm. They always do good, honest business. I would look more toward the gun, because every Mossberg I have seen that was new, had a horribly dirty barrel.