Shot the Longbeards 3.5 6s out of my 26" 870 with a .655 ventilator. Got 262 in the 10 at 40yds. Shot the .660 jellyhead next. Got 241 the next shot after I run a bore snake through it. Not bad at all I think
Ha, yup that'll smoke him!!! I wish I had a .660 to try these 5s thru.
See and the $24 Ventilator beat the $40 Jelly Head. I had no doubt it would.
Awesome patterns!! Just found a box of 3.5 LB 6's. Gonna shoot them out of an identical set up. 870SM/ ventilator .655. This gun will turn 160-170 with XX 3/2/6's. The POA/POI is on with the 3" shells. You have any problems with the 3.5 shells POA/POI?
Those are great numbers....congrats!!!
sounds like some awesome patterns,good luck with them
I jus ordered a box of nitros. Today I went by gander mt and They had the Longbeards. So I said what the heck I'll try a box. They really suprised me. They actually patterent better than hevi 6s outta my gun even with the jellyhead .660
I have been told that the Long Beard 6's have a lot of actual #7 size shot in them.
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on February 13, 2014, 10:24:50 PM
I have been told that the Long Beard 6's have a lot of actual #7 size shot in them.
I have seen some odd stuff in patterns. I think it may be some of the resin that is making some of the crazy holes.
Quote from: SumToy on February 13, 2014, 10:34:10 PM
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on February 13, 2014, 10:24:50 PM
I have been told that the Long Beard 6's have a lot of actual #7 size shot in them.
I have seen some odd stuff in patterns. I think it may be some of the resin that is making some of the crazy holes.
Well I guess it's possible. But I can't see truly lead 6's shooting the patterns like have been posted as of late with this stuff. The 7 shot would explain such dense patterns.
That could be the answer with a higher pellet count than 2 oz. of lead 6 should have.
With up to 70 more in the pattern paper reported here already.
Would make the 10" count better too?
But what we need is for some guys to shoot these Long Beard at 40yds with some big about 35" to say 40" sheets of cardboard so we could get a tue pellet count for ovearll shot in the load and then figure it up from there.
Surprised no one has cut one open yet if there's a question about shot size. I keep thinking these numbers seem to good to be true. Maybe Winchester took a page from Nitros book and they are loading these shells with smaller shot than advertised.
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on February 13, 2014, 10:45:10 PM
But what we need is for some guys to shoot these Long Beard at 40yds with some big about 35" to say 40" sheets of cardboard so we could get a tue pellet count for ovearll shot in the load and then figure it up from there.
We have shot big paper and don't think that we have lost much in the shot. Now I will say I have shot at what turned out to be 41 yards but all our patterns have been in the 240 range. 5 makes of guns doing this. Now I don't count a hole unless I know it is a shot. I have always been hard on my own targets I take from them not give. I feel we can get 250 maybe 260 on good day looking at the patterns I have seen.
Quote from: Gobble! on February 13, 2014, 10:53:11 PM
Surprised no one has cut one open yet if there's a question about shot size. I keep thinking these numbers seem to good to be true. Maybe Winchester took a page from Nitros book and they are loading these shells with smaller shot than advertised.
I did the 4's they checked out. I did find that the number of shot was lower then what should be in them going off a normal chart. I think we are seeing some of the resin hitting targets especially on targets that are on the short side.
Would that explain why the 4 shot patterns are not near as impressive in comparison to other loads and the 6 shot patterns are close to hevi 7 ?
I will test a few in the warm temps to see. Plus this gun is local so we can keep an eye on it also. I got a idea that the resin is brittle in the colder temps and brakes up more. Plus if it is any of it traveling to the target as light as it is the wind today would have played into the patterns also.
Dave, funny u posted this. I have three boxes of these being shipped to the house with a ventilator choke. Got me a new 870 and I'm looking for a good set up. Gonna try that combo when I get in and through a Ssx
Quote from: owlhoot on February 13, 2014, 11:14:41 PM
Would that explain why the 4 shot patterns are not near as impressive in comparison to other loads and the 6 shot patterns are close to hevi 7 ?
I thought the 4 shot patterns out of the Long Beards was pretty awesome compared to other 4 shot lead turkey loads I've seen. Some people was getting around 150 with them.
You are correct Xcal, they are pretty awesome. If not resin adding holes.
They seem to be 20-30 above what most have got in the ten in the past. I have got in the 135 range with multiple guns through the years with the federal grand slam. An X2 and a few 835-935 stardots.
no polished barrels , most dirty and cleaning between shots was not done then. Temperature was north Missouri March and early April. Real glad to see they are 4's.
Now the 6's ? They have shot around 100 above any lead load prior in many post.
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on February 13, 2014, 06:52:48 PM
See and the $24 Ventilator beat the $40 Jelly Head. I had no doubt it would.
They are two different constrictions not a valid comparison
Quote from: RemingtonRules on February 14, 2014, 10:26:48 PM
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on February 13, 2014, 06:52:48 PM
See and the $24 Ventilator beat the $40 Jelly Head. I had no doubt it would.
They are two different constrictions not a valid comparison
I was talking about the results dollar for dollar.
And again I will bet money the Ventilator will kick most chokes butts out there for the money shooting dang near any load from 5's on up.
Is the ventilator only offered in a .655? I am not familiar with it.
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Believe so on the .655.
It is not to popular now, but it works good.
Think i got mine in the early 90's ?
Quote from: WildSpur on February 15, 2014, 09:10:12 AM
Is the ventilator only offered in a .655? I am not familiar with it.
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Yep.
Give one a try.
Shoot Hevi-13 #7's or 6's or even lead 6's and you shall see what I mean.
The Ventilator was a turkey choke marketed by Remington "several" years ago. It was only made in .655 and only made in RemChoke. Remington no longer markets the choke, and most people weren't even aware it existed until Remington had already dropped it from their product catalog. Evidently they were manufactured in the thousands, as new ones can still be found for sale in a few places. I have one and I like it for the money.
Years ago with the first of the Supermags and this choke the lead 5 and 4's it was slinging with 3 1/2" killed every turkey that got in its way, in the fields and the pastures distances to 40.
It did ventilate some turkeys :fud: :OGani:
Just whisper the name and the Toms , well they shutter. :toothy12:
With the new loads , i need to get mine running again. :z-twocents: