Hey guy long time viewer first time posting. Hoping y'all can help me out. Went and bought a new mossberg 835 ulti mag tactical turkey 12 gauge. I have been looking at them for a while now and reall like it. Got it home and love the gun. But my problem is it shoots REALLY high. Like three inches high. Been looking at videos and reading post on pattering turkey guns. Started out at around ten yards and shot low brass shell and it was high moved all adjustment out of factory sights and it ended up about three inches high. I have shot it 40 yards and it does have a very tight pattern. I shot 3 inch and 3 1/2 inch and there about the same but I have to aim low. I know that is not the answere. So this is where I need y'all's help , a fix of some sort or start looking at red dots or scopes. And has any one else ever seen this problem. Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated. This the firs dedicated turkey gun I have so this is new to me. Thanks again kel
First off :welcomeOG:
Mossbergs are notorious for shooting high. You'll more than likely have to replace the factory sights with some Tru-Glo or Williams after market sights. Or mount a optic of some sorts. I personally have a red dot on my 935 to correct the high shooting. Now my 835 I do believe I got lucky with it but I've got to shoot it some more to make sure.
It is not unusual for shotguns to shoot a bit high. This lets you keep your target in view above the line of sight. You could choose to put your sights on the turkey's neck and keep the head in view. A lot of people prefer to do this. So first decide if this sounds like a good idea to you.
Some people tend to just shoot a shotgun high because they dont get there eye down on the barrel. A high head will cause a high shot. But if you have a rear sight and are sure you are getting the sights lined up then this isn't the problem.
So your choices are to call Mossberg who will want the gun returned to them, add some kind of optic, replace with aftermarket adjustable open sights, or just raise the front sight. If you want the minimal approach and keep your current sights then what I would do is shim the front sight. Based on your discription I would guess a 32nd or 16 of an inch shim would get you back into the adjustment range. You could just find some thin black plastic sheet and cut a shim to match the base of the sight. You may have to find longer screws but this would be nearly impossable to tell it had been done.
Thanks guys for the info. The front sight is clipped on I think if I shined it could I glue it. No screws. May be a stupid question but. Aftermarket sights can I get more adjustment out of them to make it work. Thanks again. I tried to post a pic of the sights but won't let me. I'll keep trying thanks.
You will get more adjustment from after market sights, I use Williams Sluggers. I set mine so that I aim on the waddles, their head is always moving and it helps me keep on the bird vs trying to keep it on a moving head.
:welcomeOG: :wagon:
:welcomeOG: You've already got some great advice. I use the Williams slugger after market sights on my 835. I've had em on the gun for at least four or five years now with ZERO problems. Here is a link to some. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/671251/williams-fire-sight-set-universal-vent-rib-slugger-shotgun-fiber-optic-green?cm_vc=ProductFinding
Here is a tip (if you don't already know) When you install an after market sight use a little bit of BLUE (NOT RED) lock tight on the threads this will help keep the installation tight and care free for years to come. REMEMBER ONLY BLUE lock tight (the red is permanent and you'll never get it back off)
The ones I have seen always shot low.
You can just shoot em at 60 yds and you will be good.
Kidding aside the william sights are a good bet.
I'd like to add my welcome. This is a great place and filled with helpful folks. We look forward to hearing more from you.
There are several factors that affect your point of impact. The brand and speed of the shell and the choke can influence it as can how tight you have the magazine cap.
A gun that hits 3" high at 40 yards is not at all a bad thing, especially since it apparently throws a good pattern and the windage is correct.
Aiming at the base of the neck would get you a good killing pattern.
If however, and I do understand this, you'd like a more precise point of impact, I'd recommend that you consider the Truglo Pro-Series adjustable sights. They are all steel, fully adjustable for windage and elevation, utilize fiber optic inserts in the front and rear for excellent visibility in all light conditions. attach to the rib with set screws, and stay put under heavy recoil. In addition, you can remove them and put them back on without losing zero.
Again, welcome, congratulations on your new gun and please keep us up to date on your progress.
Thanks,
Clark
I concur with Clark. +1 on the Tru Glo Gobble Dot Pro Series. Mine have survived several years of running and gunning, crawling, falling, wallowing, etc and remained "true", as well as correcting POA/POI issues.
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on February 09, 2014, 05:52:23 PM
The ones I have seen always shot low.
Same here. They're all carrying Williams Slugger sites now.
That's the way I want mine to shoot that way you can watch the birds head to make sure he dosent lower it to feed before u pull the trigger :funnyturkey: