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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Turkey Guns => Topic started by: longspur on February 03, 2014, 11:05:30 AM

Title: consistency of win. longbeards
Post by: longspur on February 03, 2014, 11:05:30 AM
I'm getting15-20 hit differences from shot to shot. anybody else seeing this? 835, ported 24",IC 675 and JH 690.
Title: Re: consistency of win. longbeards
Post by: longspur on February 03, 2014, 11:35:08 AM
I ment for this to be in general forum if someone could move it for me
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Post by: SCDieselDawg on February 03, 2014, 11:35:59 AM
Are you running a brush or bore snake between shots to remove fouling?
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Post by: ILIKEHEVI-13 on February 03, 2014, 12:29:02 PM
You will get that with any brand of various size loads.  That goes for Hevi-13 and lead loads regardless if it is the same exact lot number, too. 
Title: Re: consistency of win. longbeards
Post by: R AJ on February 03, 2014, 12:57:05 PM
Every shot with a shotgun is different when shooting lead shot . That is pretty sporty to be that close.

The time when this is a big problem is when you are dealing with 80 in the 10 with a +/- swing of 15-20.
Title: Re: consistency of win. longbeards
Post by: longspur on February 03, 2014, 01:05:51 PM
Quote from: RAJ on February 03, 2014, 12:57:05 PM
Every shot with a shotgun is different when shooting lead shot . That is pretty sporty to be that close.

The time when this is a big problem is when you are dealing with 80 in the 10 with a +/- swing of 15-20.
I see.Never counted pellets until hevi and xtended came out. xtended was always pretty close. drop a few when I ran a bore snake through then jump back up after that.
Title: Re: consistency of win. longbeards
Post by: longspur on February 03, 2014, 01:14:56 PM
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on February 03, 2014, 12:29:02 PM
You will get that with any brand of various size loads.  That goes for Hevi-13 and lead loads regardless if it is the same exact lot number, too.
So I'm guessing the more uniform shot size and shape is what made the xtended so consistent. And I guess its more noticeable with the lower numbers. 300 to 250 don't make much difference                                       
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Post by: Philippe on February 03, 2014, 01:16:48 PM
15-20 is pretty normal, even for Hevi. The only time I have gotten consistent numbers is after cleaning the barrel after every shot and the weather conditions were perfect.
Title: Re: consistency of win. longbeards
Post by: ILIKEHEVI-13 on February 03, 2014, 04:11:01 PM
Another example for you

You can chronograph rifle ammo from the same factory box or even reloaded ammo and still notice fluctuation in fps.  No ammo will shoot the exact same speed shot after shot.  Now you may be able to get the extreme spread within 10-20fps if it is meticulously handloaded and each bullet weighed and the same goes for each powder charge and keep everything else in reloading process equal as well.  But variations will still occur in the process of how the powder burns and the primer ignites.  It's just the way it is.  The same goes for shotgun ammo if you were to shoot and count each and every shot in a 10" at 40yds.  Temp changes will drastically affect shotgun patterns as well.  Major differences in elevation will also drastically affect shotgun patterns.  I would say that humidity will have some effect as well.  There's just a lot of different variables.  The more you have, the more the difference in what variations you will notice.   
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Post by: Twowithone on February 03, 2014, 05:56:25 PM
Could it be with your two different restrictions of chokes and at what distance are you shooting these at.
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Post by: knightrider on February 03, 2014, 07:12:19 PM
I wish I could get that consistant !!! I always vary 20-30 or so :funnyturkey:
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Post by: SumToy on February 03, 2014, 07:50:26 PM
Most all our patterns have ran about the same from gun to gun.   Now I did find that the 5's are a little so so.  I like the 4's or the 6's.
Title: Re: consistency of win. longbeards
Post by: RemingtonRules on February 04, 2014, 09:46:02 AM
I am getting very consistent patterns with only a two or three pellet difference between shots.  I attribute the three pellect difference to maybe flinching a little after sending a few rounds down the barrell.