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Title: Record Cold ?
Post by: FL-Boss on January 23, 2014, 12:43:33 PM
I have been living in North Fla for 40 years.  Been a while since I remember a January this cold. We have had freezing temps most nights this month.  Somedays the high hasn't made it to 50.   
I know you guys up north laugh at this.  But for Florida standards, it seems this has been a cold Jan.

My understanding is most of the mid west and NE has also been real cold...  a lot negative temps ?

Is it just me or has it been unusually cold so far this year?
Title: Re: Record Cold ?
Post by: Gooserbat on January 23, 2014, 12:48:10 PM
Blame the cold on global warming. 
Title: Re: Record Cold ?
Post by: FL-Boss on January 23, 2014, 12:49:00 PM
I blame it on Al Gore.   
Title: Re: Record Cold ?
Post by: darn2ten on January 23, 2014, 01:00:14 PM
Global warming, just ask Al Gore!  ::) I live in Tn. now, but grew up in Fl. Under freezing, into the 20's in Fl. is COLD! Just a different kind of cold I guess because of the humidity further south, Freezing there feels about like the upper teens here. Now we did go to -2 about a week back and that was no doubt cold. High today in upper teens and low tonight somewhere around 5.
Title: Re: Record Cold ?
Post by: darn2ten on January 23, 2014, 01:03:11 PM
Oops! See y'all already mentioned 'Ol Al  ;D
Title: Re: Record Cold ?
Post by: boomer on January 23, 2014, 02:15:02 PM
Its been pretty cold here. First winter I had my truck gelled up on they way to work. With the windchill it was like -40 that morning. It felt nice this morning too about -30. I know I cant wait for spring to get here.
Title: Re: Record Cold ?
Post by: ctwny1 on January 23, 2014, 02:43:21 PM
You THINK it's cold in Florida? Come here to Western NY that we call The TUNDRA and see what cold is.
The State of NY should be PAYING US to live here!
Title: Re: Record Cold ?
Post by: Gooserbat on January 23, 2014, 03:03:58 PM
Quote from: ctwny1 on January 23, 2014, 02:43:21 PM
You THINK it's cold in Florida? Come here to Western NY that we call The TUNDRA and see what cold is.
The State of NY should be PAYING US to live here!

I'm sure with you guy's liberal politicians there is an entitlement program or two.
Title: Re: Record Cold ?
Post by: FL-Boss on January 23, 2014, 03:31:05 PM
 I really don't know you guys stand cold like that.  Just to think you can't outside for days /weeks at a time...  unheard of.
Title: Re: Record Cold ?
Post by: WildSpur on January 23, 2014, 04:12:59 PM
It's not getting any better here in pa anytime soon.  We have a negative 12 coming up with snow accumulation too.

On a bright side the snow piles make great drink coolers when shoveling your driveway though.

Hopefully this will not mess up our wildlife since we had a fair mast crop at best.

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Title: Re: Record Cold ?
Post by: Old Gobbler on January 23, 2014, 05:19:22 PM
Two January's ago it was freezing for about a month down here ( s fla ) -- cold cold cold , it put a hurting on the non native iguanas - I heard they were dropping out the trees , lol

In 1976 or 77 I remember it snowed in ft lauderdale Florida , it was 17 degrees out , I was walking to school and down it came -- real cold for us

But last march was the most whacked,  there was frost on the ground in March --out in the swamps in south florida - I remember  I had to go through two big puddles to get to my spot , I ended up taking walmart bags and putting them I between my socks and crocks- I busted down and picked up a pair lacrosse knee boots the next day

cold weather shut those gobblers right up last year
Title: Re: Record Cold ?
Post by: FL-Boss on January 23, 2014, 05:28:36 PM
For Sure.. last year was crazy here in Fla.  March was the coldest month last year.. it was weird..  I remember opening morning it was like 25... and continued to be cold for the next 3 weeks.  I didn't sweat much either on the afternoon hunts.. which is rare in Fla. 
Title: Re: Record Cold ?
Post by: allaboutshooting on January 23, 2014, 06:25:11 PM
Quote from: FL-Boss on January 23, 2014, 12:43:33 PM
I have been living in North Fla for 40 years.  Been a while since I remember a January this cold. We have had freezing temps most nights this month.  Somedays the high hasn't made it to 50.   
I know you guys up north laugh at this.  But for Florida standards, it seems this has been a cold Jan.

My understanding is most of the mid west and NE has also been real cold...  a lot negative temps ?

Is it just me or has it been unusually cold so far this year?
It's not just you. We've set record lows here and it's been the most brutally cold winter in decades.

Thanks,
Clark
Title: Re: Record Cold ?
Post by: paintbrush on January 23, 2014, 08:30:34 PM
31 below this morning at my place. That's with out wind chill. 2nd time we've been 30 below actual air temp this year. Lots of nights 20 below or better already. This coming Monday they say it's supose to get even colder here. It's been many years since we've had this cold of a winter up here.  I'm up in northern MN. The heat bill is going to be brutal!
Title: Re: Record Cold ?
Post by: beagler on January 23, 2014, 08:35:38 PM
It was -7 degrees on my way to work this morning and that's not the wind chill.
Title: Re: Record Cold ?
Post by: kevin2 on January 23, 2014, 11:37:19 PM
Nasty cold here too. My kids have had 3 cold days off from school in the last couple weeks. I can only remember one other cold day in the last 15 years of them being in school.
Title: Re: Record Cold ?
Post by: Gut Pile on January 24, 2014, 09:10:01 PM
In 49 years I have never seen it this bad in Ohio, -5 to 7 degrees and that's without wind-chill for next week. I do blame All Gore, I suspect all those windmills, we so desperately need, are funneling air out of the North Pole directly on to my house
Title: Re: Record Cold ?
Post by: Yoder409 on January 26, 2014, 07:52:32 PM
It's been pretty cool of and on here in west PA the last couple weeks.

Even native PA folks are grumbling.  Coldest air temp I've seen this winter is around -12 or -15 degrees.  Wind chills of -30 or -40.

Maybe I'm dating myself.  But the winter of 1977-78 we had a couple days where the air temp was in the -31 to -33 degree neighborhood.  About 10-12 years ago one day at work I stopped in the local municipal airport and the guy wanted to know where my hat and gloves were.  The weather computers behind him had the wind chill pegged at -67 degrees.

We've just not had a "good old-fashioned winter" for a while........................ which is fine with me.
Title: Re: Record Cold ?
Post by: RutnNStrutn on January 26, 2014, 08:24:24 PM
It's all Al Gore's fault!! Him and his darned global warming!! Hmm, come to think of it, why haven't we heard anything out of him lately? ;) ;D :lol:
Title: Re: Record Cold ?
Post by: redarrow on January 26, 2014, 08:32:56 PM
Minus 35 wind chill this coming Tuesday
Title: Re: Record Cold ?
Post by: J Hook Max on January 27, 2014, 09:25:00 AM
 Expecting sleet and snow in Mobile , Al. for the next couple of days. Can't wait until spring finally arrives.
Title: Re: Record Cold ?
Post by: Tail Feathers on January 27, 2014, 09:31:00 AM
Definitely a colder than normal winter around here.  Not nearly as bad as some of our neighbors to the north have but we've seen more cold (for us) nights than normal.
Title: Record Cold ?
Post by: Assault on January 27, 2014, 12:03:39 PM
Here in south Louisiana, they closed most of the bridges crossing the Mississippi River. A 1.5 hour drive took me almost 4 hours to get to the coast to go duck hunting!!!!! Now they are calling for snow for tonight, AGAIN!
Title: Re: Record Cold ?
Post by: Woodsman4God on January 27, 2014, 01:36:40 PM
Last I heard, Michigan is having a record cold. Last time temps got this cold for this long was 1947. We have already had 3-4 days around -10 air temp with -35 or colder windchill and the next couple gonna be right around that -10 again. I am usually one who doesnt mind winter all that much but its too cold to even go ice fishing. Cant wait for it to warm up to something nice like 25 degrees so I can enjoy winter sports. Cant take the kids out sledding ,shed hunting, ice fishing etc.
Title: Re: Record Cold ?
Post by: RutnNStrutn on January 27, 2014, 03:13:29 PM
You know, this is odd. Down here in central Florida, while we have had more days of cold (by our standards) weather, the actual low temps have not made it down as cold as they have gotten the last few years.
Title: Re: Record Cold ?
Post by: Turkey Trot on January 27, 2014, 05:36:02 PM
People are feeling the pain in heating bills, too.  I've heard that propane hit $6 per gallon in WI. 

Propane Is Scarce As Cold Spell Lifts Demand, Prices

By Caroline Porter and Alison Side
The Wall Street Journal
Jan. 24, 2014 7:13 p.m. ET

Frigid temperatures in many parts of the country are contributing to soaring demand for propane, kicking off a surge in prices and a scramble to get the liquid gas used in agriculture and home heating to parts of the Midwest and South.

"Demand has just been unprecedented," said Eldon Meyers, the operations and risk manager for K & H Cooperative Oil Co. in north-central Iowa. He said winter heating sales were 35% higher in December than a year earlier, and January's cold spell means that propane needs "have really hit the fan this past week."

On Friday, the energy supplier said that his retail price for propane of $4.24 per gallon nearly doubles the former record of $2.32 before this season.

"It's hard on people," he said. "We don't like to see our customers go through this."

According to the National Propane Gas Association, 5.5 million homes use propane for heating.

Issues such as maintenance on a major pipeline during November and December, as well as rail disruptions, kept propane supplies in the Midwest from being replenished in time for the cold weather, after farmers used more of it than usual to dry crops after a wet harvest, said T. Mason Hamilton, an analyst at the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

"There is propane out there, but in certain areas of the country it's hard to come by," said Simon Bowman, a spokesman for AmeriGas Partners APU -0.45% LP, the largest U.S. retail propane marketer.

The Department of Transportation has eased restrictions on propane transportation for states in the South, the Northeast and the Midwest, citing shortages in all three regions.

Jim Boyer, a farmer in Ringsted, Iowa, who grows corn and soybeans and raises about 16,000 hogs annually, figured the high prices will create a $9,000 hole in his budget. "We are using a lot more propane than we normally do," said Mr. Boyer, adding that he ran through his propane reserve earlier than expected and keeps his eight buildings devoted to hogs at 82 degrees Fahrenheit.

"I'm going to make sure my animals are warm even if I have to forgo something else," he said. "That's my income."

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R., Iowa) sent a letter to the Federal Trade Commission on Thursday asking for closer scrutiny "to prevent possible anti-competitive behavior or illegal manipulation" in the propane market. The commission confirmed it received the letter and is reviewing it.

In a 2007 settlement with the Commodity Futures Trading Commission and the U.S. Justice Department, BP PLC agreed to pay $303 million in criminal and civil penalties and restitution for allegedly driving up wholesale propane prices in 2004.

Mike Knop, an Alabama poultry producer, said he hasn't yet had too much trouble getting his propane, as he can buy it from the company he farms for. But the colder-than-usual winter has meant he needs a lot more of it to keep his chicks warm. Mr. Knop said he is paying about 40 cents more per gallon this year, but he can't cut back since chicks need high temperatures to thrive in the first weeks of their lives.

"We're all sitting of the edge of our seats," he said. "Are we going to be able to get more propane?"

Paul Gieselman, a farmer in southeast Iowa, turned down his thermostat to 64 degrees Fahrenheit from 68 degrees to ration propane use in his three-story farmhouse, where he lives with his wife and three children.

"We are wearing layers and using blankets and electric space heaters as much as we can to supplement the heat," he said. He said refilling his propane tank at higher prices "could be a real issue."