Do you think the top choke is a Star Dot?
Yes I do.
Thank you sir
Yes sir.
I seen that last nite on there.
I have seen some Star Dot's like this one with a hatched knurl on the end and I have seen some with a straight knurl on the end. Are they the same/equal?
I would say they are.
Star Dot also made chokes for and were sold under the name of Preston Pittman. All the Preston Pittman chokes I have seen had streight knurls and the Star Dot's had cross hatched knurls. Not sure if that holds in all cases though. My understanding is that they are otherwise identical.
The Star Dot chokes that say Preston Pittman were not the original Star Dot chokes made by Colonial Arms. I know this for a fact after speaking to the woman owner of Colonial Arms. That's where Highlander Sports stole Colonial Arms design after their falling out when Highlander Sports got behind on their bills to what they owed Colonial Arms. Colnonial Arms stopped making the Star Dot chokes for them. So Highlander Sports took it upon themself to take the Star Dot chokes they had and have another company in AL copy them.
Mike on here thinks he knows who made those chokes. But apparently if he is right then some of the Star Dots by what it says on the back of the package were not original Star Dots made by Colonial as well.
I'll let him share the info if he wants.
Well I don't think he will mind so I will post the info.
Now before I post this I will just say that the info I have is that Highlander Sports went belly up or bankrupt in either 2002 or 2003 and the end of the word Star Dot chokes were done. So this makes sense to me.
More Details for Ptc Technologies
Ptc Technologies in Huntsville, AL is a private company categorized under Electronic Detection Systems (Aeronautical). Our records show it was established in 2002 and incorporated in Alabama. Register for free to see additional information such as annual revenue and employment figures.
Aeronautical is the key here. Stardot may have had these made from someone outside the choke tube industry. They may have taken colonials design to PTC and had them made.
So if the back of you package has the words PTC Technoligies at the bottom where the address is my guess is that you don't have an original Star Dot choke made by the original manufacturer which was Colonial Arms if the above info I posted is correct.
This may also explain why I had 2 different either knurled or straight groove Star Dots with the original Star Dot packaging at one time. But I don't know that for sure.
But my hunch would be that Colonial Arms knurled all the Star Dot chokes they made for Highlander and the straight groove ones were made by that company above if that info is correct.
But that may be wrong.
Now my next question would be to anyone that has a for sure package they got when they bought a straight groove Star Dot choke that don't say the words PTC Technologies at the address on the bottom of the back of the package?
That is either a Pittman or a Star Dot. Just curious, what gun is it for?
Quote from: Philippe on January 22, 2014, 09:38:00 PM
That is either a Pittman or a Star Dot. Just curious, what gun is it for?
That's for a Moss 835.
So we now know most of the Star Dot facts.
http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,40168.msg399709.html#new
Still will have to do some research on why there is no mention of the Highlander Sports on the back of that package for that is the company who had Colonial Arms make the original Star Dot chokes.
I'm gonna send the guy on ebay selling all of these PTC Technologies Star Dot chokes and email and ask him where he is getting all of these copied Star Dot chokes from just out of curiousity. I'm gonna explain to him in detail what I know about Colonial Arms making the original Star Dot chokes for Highlander Sports and that they had PTC Technologies copy Colonial Arms Star Dot choke design and see what he has to say just out of curiosity.
Here's the email that I just sent to sheltonsclothing on ebay. We will see what he has to say. I think something is fishy here to why he seems to have an endless supply and he may in fact know more than he is letting on. But that is just a hunch. But you got to ask yourself where is he getting all of these Star Dot chokes that were the stolen design of Colonial Arms. He may of in fact worked for Highlander Sports or PTC Technologies at one point might explain the rest of the story. I bet I never get a response.
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Where are you getting all of these stolen design Star Dot chokes from? Don't know if you know or not but Colonial Arms was the company that Highlander Sports had make the original Star Dot chokes for them to market. Highlander Sports wasn't paying Colonial Arms the money that they owed them so Colonial Arms halted doing chokes for them. Highlander Sports or somebody from them either took it upon themself to have PTC Technologies, Inc out of Hunstville AL copy Colonial Arms Star Dot design, or they in fact later went to work for PTC Technologies maybe after Highlander Sports went bankrupt for all I know. But I do know for a fact that the original Star Dot chokes made by Colonial Arms didn't have the words Preston Pittman on the front of the package or PTC Technologies on the back of the package.
I can show you pictures of the original packaging from the original Star Dot chokes if you like and the ones that had PTC Technologies that were in fact fakes.
Brad
Another thing that is fishy is why is sheltonsclothing covering up the words extra full on the original packaging? And also notice the words Mossberg 835 is left in blue and no sticker is over it like on my original Star Dot 835 choke I have that was made by Colonial Arms. Mine has a sticker written in black letters that says Mossberg 835. Mine also doesn't have PTC Technologies on the back. It's funny why he or somebody has put over the words Extra Full with the words like Improved Cylinder. Star Dot chokes were only made as extra full turkey chokes period. This guy I bet money was in on the scheme of the copying or knows more than what we know.
I think I should of been a private investigator.
But I couldn't have figured a lot of this out without the help of Mike on here.
Remember all the original Star Dot chokes that were in fact made by Colonial Arms were knurled at the top with no straight grooves like the ones that were copied by PTC Technologies.
I'll show you a photo of my original Star Dot choke made by Colonial Arms just so you guys can see it here for yourself and compare it to the other fake Star Dot chokes like the one just sold on ebay.
Original Star Dot choke made by Colonial Arms
Copied Star Dot choke below. Now I need someone to do me a favor. I have the picture of the back of this package in the ebay link below saved to my computer. I need someone else to save the picture of the front of this package below in this this ebbay link so we will have it for future reference here please. I can oly save that picture as either front of back on my computer. So I chose the back so I could show the words PTC Technologies. Also notice that choke has the straight grooves at the top. A bigger saved photo showing this straight grooves here would be nice.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/star-dot-choke-/111263065567?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e7cba5df&nma=true&si=8ItBSwl8ScU63fSWFd54xsuupBQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557#ht_63wt_892
I think I figured it out. I changed the name of the stored file.
Copied Star Dot choke
I just got done talking to Phillipe. he called the guy. I'll let him share with you what he found out.
Great job and info my friend.
Does anyone know if they all the same as far as internals? Whats shoots better now? The original? The PTC? Or the colonial arms elite? I would love to have one for my ol mossy.
Quote from: TrackeySauresRex on January 23, 2014, 11:42:36 AM
Does anyone know if they all the same as far as internals? Whats shoots better now? The original? The PTC? Or the colonial arms elite? I would love to have one for my ol mossy.
They both shoot about identical.
Read what I wrote in the link above in the turkey choke column.
Well I spoke with the gentleman from ebay that is selling these chokes. Apparently he has over 3700 of these Star Dot clones that he bought when the manufacturer closed.
Quote from: Philippe on January 23, 2014, 12:07:51 PM
Well I spoke with the gentleman from ebay that is selling these chokes. Apparently he has over 3700 of these Star Dot clones that he bought when the manufacturer closed.
And now we know the rest of the story.
Good Day! :z-winnersmiley:
^ I Saw this on an old thread 2010 Preston's Choke
http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=481185
Quote from: TrackeySauresRex on January 23, 2014, 12:57:23 PM
^ I Saw this on an old thread 2010 Preston's Choke
http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=481185
That link don't work.
It was a Pitmann choke in a a package with straight knurlling. The package was somwhat differen tho.
Quote from: TrackeySauresRex on January 23, 2014, 01:10:46 PM
It was a Pitmann choke in a a package with straight knurlling. The package was somwhat differen tho.
I wonder if PTC Technologies made them as well?
Quote from: Philippe on January 23, 2014, 12:07:51 PM
Well I spoke with the gentleman from ebay that is selling these chokes. Apparently he has over 3700 of these Star Dot clones that he bought when the manufacturer closed.
Well I have to wonder how he just up and acquired all of these chokes at once? I'm still thinking somoeone still knows more than they are letting on. My hunch is that this guy may of in fact worked for Highlander Sports or PTC Technologies. He still has yet to respond to my email. The ole line I know nothing about these chokes sounds to good to be true when you have 3700 of them.
3700 chokes at even $5 a piece is still $18,500 and he might of even paid more who knows. But what I do know is that still is a lot of money to buy in choke tubes for somebody to say they know nothing about these chokes. He sure knows what the 835 chokes are bringing.
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I know nothing! ;D
When Walmart quit selling those chokes many years ago, they dumped them by the hundreds all over the U.S. A friend of mine bought a barrel full at one store locally. He paid hardly anything for them and gave many away to anyone who wanted one. There weren't many takers at that time.
It would not surprise me if there are still hundreds of these chokes out there. Now products that don't sell are often bought by liquidators but back then they were just gotten rid of at just about any price. There may well be a warehouse somewhere that has a bunch of these stored away and pretty much forgotten. It happens.
Do you remember just a few years ago when a warehouse full of Remington Hevi-Shot was discovered? Retailers were offered as much as they wanted at less than the cost of the shot. I knew people who bought them just to get the shot and use it in reloaded shells.
Thanks,
Clark
Quote from: allaboutshooting on January 23, 2014, 03:15:35 PM
When Walmart quit selling those chokes many years ago, they dumped them by the hundreds all over the U.S. A friend of mine bought a barrel full at one store locally. He paid hardly anything for them and gave many away to anyone who wanted one. There weren't many takers at that time.
It would not surprise me if there are still hundreds of these chokes out there. Now products that don't sell are often bought by liquidators but back then they were just gotten rid of at just about any price. There may well be a warehouse somewhere that has a bunch of these stored away and pretty much forgotten. It happens.
Do you remember just a few years ago when a warehouse full of Remington Hevi-Shot was discovered? Retailers were offered as much as they wanted at less than the cost of the shot. I knew people who bought them just to get the shot and use it in reloaded shells.
Thanks,
Clark
Clark,
I would buy that if this guy wasn't in fact from the AL area where they made all Star Dot chokes.
I'll stand by my hunch that the guy on ebay selling all of these chokes either worked for Highlander Sports or PTC Technologies or possibly owned Highlander Sports or PTC Technologies. Pleading the 5th I'm not buying it that this guy knows nothing about these chokes.
Here's a little tidbit for you guys. The guy on ebay selling all of these Star Dot chokes is from Moulton, AL. Now I just did a check to see how far Moulton, AL is from Huntsville AL where Highlander Sports was from that marketed the original Star Dot chokes made by Colonial Arms. Here's what I got.
46 Miles / 74 Km
50 mins
View Route Map
Distance Directions Conditions Photos Close Ad
- Distance between Moulton, AL and Huntsville, AL
Now what a coincidence.
Let me guess he just so happen to be in the area to acquire 3700 of the Star Dot chokes at the time this was all going on. Yea right. :TooFunny: And then he says he knows nothing about these chokes.
Quote from: TrackeySauresRex on January 23, 2014, 03:13:28 PM
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I know nothing! ;D
He NOZZZZZ Nuting! :TooFunny:
I think you got him Hevi!
What is he going to do, sell 1 at a time for the 835's on e-bay? I checked his store site. He don't have them listed.
Quote from: TrackeySauresRex on January 23, 2014, 03:50:52 PM
Quote from: TrackeySauresRex on January 23, 2014, 03:13:28 PM
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I know nothing! ;D
He NOZZZZZ Nuting! :TooFunny:
I think you got him Hevi!
Well he still has yet to answer my email.
I doubt he does since he probably thinks I'm working for Colonial Arms or that I might be the owner.
I have one of these eBay chokes but have not shot it yet.
My first post on og was about these chokes and never got a reply,
The link did not work and was wondering if they do In fact shoot the same.
Also the guy on eBay knows what he has just like you stated because they are the only ones that do not have a buy it now price and every other one except the 835's do and they always run up and over 50 dollars. I just really want to know if it will still shoot.
Quote from: StrutStopper_71 on January 23, 2014, 06:22:34 PM
I have one of these eBay chokes but have not shot it yet.
My first post on og was about these chokes and never got a reply,
The link did not work and was wondering if they do In fact shoot the same.
Also the guy on eBay knows what he has just like you stated because they are the only ones that do not have a buy it now price and every other one except the 835's do and they always run up and over 50 dollars. I just really want to know if it will still shoot.
I have already answered that question for you. I'll state it like I stated it in the thread in the choke classified section.
For what it is worth, I am told that the PTC Technologies Star Dot chokes that were in fact copies of the original Colonial Arms Star Dot chokes, shot just as good as the originals made by Colonial Arms.
I know I had a straight groove one that had to be made by PTC Technoligies that I gave to guy I worked with a few years ago. I also gave him one of my great shooting Hevi-13 3.5" 2.25oz #7 loads to try it with. That choke I believe was brand new unfired in package. He said he got 290 shot in 9" circle at 40yds. So that would equivalate to about 350 or so in a 10". I have gotten 360 and 361 in a 10" with mine at a taped 40yds. Now he may have stepped off his yardage. But I just know he told me that I was right abouth that choke and load shooting so well. He said he never could get his Moss 835 to shoot is why I gave him that choke and load to try. He now is a believer in why the 835 's are the ultimate turkey gun.
Thank you very much info was very appreciated! And sorry did not know about the choke classified section I'm new to og. But this was helpful I had been worried once I found out it wasn't an original. I know all guns shoot a little different but I sure feel a lot better now. When I get ready to pattern it! ;D
So are the ones he's selling, just as good as the originals? If so, I'm going to get me one for my 835!
Quote from: JellyHead Key on January 23, 2014, 08:13:58 PM
So are the ones he's selling, just as good as the originals? If so, I'm going to get me one for my 835!
Please read what I wrote above.
Yes.
Ok some more info for you guys about this guy that says he knows nothing about these 3700 Star Dot chokes he so called acquired.
http://stores.sheltonsclothing.com/
Now click the link above and type the word Star Dot choke in the search box. See what you get. Not a one.
Now for someone who knows nothing about the so called Star Dot chokes, why is it that he don't sale them in his stores and only on ebay?
Things that make you say hmmm!
Even if he paid $1 each, that's a good chunk o cash to pay for a "closeout" item that you may or may not recoup your money on...............people just don't have 3,700 of anything lying around thinking that maybe they'll sell them all someday......weird for sure.
I just got a response to the email I sent him from what I posted earlier here. Here's what he said.
They were just in a deal of closeouts I bought. I don't know the history of them.THANKS!
SHELTON'S CLOTHING & OUTDOORS
GUARANTEED LOWEST PRICES !!
Customer Support 256-974-9079
Tue-Sat: 9AM-5PM PST
Here was my response back.
If that is the true story then, why are you not selling them in your store in Moulton AL then? I'm not buying it. I think you know a lot more than your letting on. The truth shall set you free.
Quote from: BowBendr on January 23, 2014, 09:03:25 PM
Even if he paid $1 each, that's a good chunk o cash to pay for a "closeout" item that you may or may not recoup your money on...............people just don't have 3,700 of anything lying around thinking that maybe they'll sell them all someday......weird for sure.
Ditto!
Why buy 3700 of anything if you have a store and don't sell them there and only on ebay? That's the biggest crock. If they sell on ebay, they will sell at your store. Anybody in business for themself would do both. He has a reason and I bet it is legal reasons. :lol:
We all need to get on the phone tomorrow and call that number above and say we would like to buy a Star Dot Moss 835 choke for $20 and see what he says. :funnyturkey:
PTC Technologies
104 Yeager Ct Nw, Huntsville, AL 35806(256) 858-9658
I would like to know from any local AL guys on here if that place is still in fact in business? I guess I could give them a call and ask them some questions if they are?
If he was to put them at his store for 20$, and word of mouth got around. He would make a killer profit really quick. So the whole story doesn't make sense. Either way though, as long as they shoot just as good then buy one because apparently he has plenty. I tried to buy one, but I kept getting sniped and I stopped bidding at
60$. It'll be interesting to see what ILIKEHEVI-13 finds out.
In for this ride!
Quote from: Xcal1ber on January 23, 2014, 11:06:31 PM
If he was to put them at his store for 20$, and word of mouth got around. He would make a killer profit really quick. So the whole story doesn't make sense. Either way though, as long as they shoot just as good then buy one because apparently he has plenty. I tried to buy one, but I kept getting sniped and I stopped bidding at
60$. It'll be interesting to see what ILIKEHEVI-13 finds out.
I had the same exact problem trying to buy two of the remington chokes several nights ago. I bit on two of the same choke, and "someone" else would bit on the same two right after I did. I asked the seller if he was doing it just to get the sell price closer to his buy it now price but he wouldnt answer me. Also, after the auction ended, the next day the same chokes came right back up for sale, same pictures, same add.
I noticed that the one for the 835 that's on there now was bumped more than $20 in one bid. Kind of suspicious that someone upped the bid that much with several days left to gain more bids. Also why are they offering free shipping on 3 of the 8 chokes listed by them?
Quote from: SCDieselDawg on January 24, 2014, 01:31:32 AM
I noticed that the one for the 835 that's on there now was bumped more than $20 in one bid. Kind of suspicious that someone upped the bid that much with several days left to gain more bids. Also why are they offering free shipping on 3 of the 8 chokes listed by them?
I seriously think this guy is a bit of a scheister and bidding on his own stuff to up the prices once he see's someone else bidding on them. When I had him on the phone, he was very shady and did not see to want to answer questions. More or less just beat around the bush.
I guess what really says it all about this guy if he knows absolutely nothing as he says about all of these Star Dot chokes is this. Why is he selling so much of all of his other various merchandise on ebay, but don't have the Star Dot chokes listed in his store for sell in Moulton, AL?
There is 3 sides to every story...yours, mine and the truth. :thanks:
Here's the response I got back from the guy that says he knows nothing.
First off I don't appreciate being called a liar. It is really none of your bussiness what I sell and where I sell it!! Our Retail and Ebay bussiness are two seperate bussinesses.
I won't post my reply back after this response, but he might want to watch who he is in fact talking too for I know way more than he thinks I know.
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on January 24, 2014, 10:19:21 AM
Here's the response I got back from the guy that says he knows nothing.
First off I don't appreciate being called a liar. It is really none of your bussiness what I sell and where I sell it!! Our Retail and Ebay bussiness are two seperate bussinesses.
I won't post my reply back after this response, but he might want to watch who he is in fact talking too for I know way more than he thinks I know.
Please share what you said back lol. I placed a bid for the 835 choke he has on eBay and got outbidded pretty quickly.
CSI....O.G! :smiley-char092: lol!!
Quote from: the Ward on January 24, 2014, 12:14:38 PM
CSI....O.G! :smiley-char092: lol!!
Well what I told him I bet he won't send another response.
He may not be selling too many more of these chokes on ebay.
That guy is a con artist. I guarantee he is bidding up every 835 choke, too.
Quote from: JellyHead Key on January 24, 2014, 12:08:58 PM
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on January 24, 2014, 10:19:21 AM
Here's the response I got back from the guy that says he knows nothing.
First off I don't appreciate being called a liar. It is really none of your bussiness what I sell and where I sell it!! Our Retail and Ebay bussiness are two seperate bussinesses.
I won't post my reply back after this response, but he might want to watch who he is in fact talking too for I know way more than he thinks I know.
Please share what you said back lol. I placed a bid for the 835 choke he has on eBay and got outbidded pretty quickly.
Well I will just say he smarted off to the wrong guy.
This guy is prob.. sittin on turkey frorums reeading about them. I think were just better off dealing with Colonial right now and paying the 55 bucks. Jmo
Quote from: TrackeySauresRex on January 24, 2014, 12:30:43 PM
This guy is prob.. sittin on turkey frorums reeading about them. I think were just better off dealing with Colonial right now and paying the 55 bucks. Jmo
Yep. He probably is a member here.
He also is making money off of the more Star Dot patterns we post as we type, too.
Well I think his goose has been plucked. Time will tell.
^ I hope he's not a member here, It's definitely not what we stand for!
Quote from: TrackeySauresRex on January 24, 2014, 12:36:52 PM
^ I hope he's not a member here, It's definitely not what we stand for!
My point is he may be. We will never know. But what I do know is he will have a lot of explaining to do shortly.
Well after reading all the post in this thread I won't even put another bid in for his chokes. How much are these chokes running for on Colonials website? If they are selling the same product, I'll just get one there.
Quote from: JellyHead Key on January 24, 2014, 12:45:01 PM
Well after reading all the post in this thread I won't even put another bid in for his chokes. How much are these chokes running for on Colonials website? If they are selling the same product, I'll just get one there.
$54.95 plus maybe $5 for shipping.
Be sure and get the .676 Xtra Full if your ordering one for a Moss 835.
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on January 24, 2014, 12:47:17 PM
Quote from: JellyHead Key on January 24, 2014, 12:45:01 PM
Well after reading all the post in this thread I won't even put another bid in for his chokes. How much are these chokes running for on Colonials website? If they are selling the same product, I'll just get one there.
$54.95 plus maybe $5 for shipping.
Be sure and get the .676 Xtra Full if your ordering one for a Moss 835.
Ok thanks a lot Hevi!
It's not giving me a option for the .676.
Are all the Xtra Full for the 835 a .676 on that site?
Quote from: JellyHead Key on January 24, 2014, 12:53:27 PM
It's not giving me a option for the .676.
Are all the Xtra Full for the 835 a .676 on that site?
Yep.
But I would call them and tell them you want the duplicate of the old Star Dot choke. The extra full is supposed to be it from what I was told. But I would still call and make my order.
Just for kicks I bid on another one of those Remington Star Dots. Nobody has counter bid yet and its been two days. But I bet anything that once it gets down to the last 2 hours the BS will start again.
Okay guys -- no need getting worked up over some eBay auction , if there is a issue ( alleged shill bidding) then report it to eBay they know how to handle those issues , if it is a isssue and if it is its eBay's problem
Auctions and the like .... are nothing but trouble especially for game calls that's why auctions are not allowed , ask what you want and that's that
I wanted to add that if you see a knurled choke in a PTC Technolgies package that you have an original Star Dot choke made buy Colonial Arms. Somebody responsible for when all these stolen design Star Dot chokes were made actually had some leftover original Star Dots and put them in the different labled package.
Also the original Star Dot chokes made by Colonial Arms had exactly 10 ports. I have been informed that the straight groove fake Star Dot chokes had 12 ports.
My Colonial Arms choke that is supposed to be just like the Stardot has 12 ports?
Quote from: Grobec1 on January 29, 2014, 08:19:41 AM
My Colonial Arms choke that is supposed to be just like the Stardot has 12 ports?
Is that the one that Colonial Arms is producing now? If so, that may very well be. But I'm saying all the older original Colonal Arms Star Dot chokes made for Highlander Sports had exactly 10 ports and a knurled end.
I have seen the sheltonsclothing guy on ebay have a knurled original Colonial Arms Star Dot choke in a Star Dot package that had PTC Technologies. Somebody, somehow, someway, switched that choke to that package with the newly labeled cardboard insert during the time all this took place is what I am in fact saying.
Lol I got shill bidded on some chokes on eBay last year... BY A SPONSOR OF THIS SITE.
Bidded on two chokes, got outbidded at the last few minutes and the chokes reappeared under the same site sponsored seller name. Won the choke bids that time and 2 weeks later I hadn't received my chokes so I called them. They said they found some minor dings in the chokes (BS) and they wouldn't ship them.
I said are you going topay me my D*** money back?? They said we will work on it. I finally got my $ back 2 more weeks later after a threatening email.
What is so great about the Stardot choke?I am waiting for one to arrive in mail,i picked it up off of here.i am more then happy with my GT.But wanted another choke to try.
Quote from: Hooks' n' Beards' on January 29, 2014, 09:17:30 PM
What is so great about the Stardot choke?I am waiting for one to arrive in mail,i picked it up off of here.i am more then happy with my GT.But wanted another choke to try.
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they are suppose to be the "holy grail" of choke tubes for the Mossberg 835
I have one of the "walmart" ones,and it is a great choke,I have not found anything that it won't shoot.
Quote from: surehuntsalot on January 29, 2014, 09:49:13 PM
Quote from: Hooks' n' Beards' on January 29, 2014, 09:17:30 PM
What is so great about the Stardot choke?I am waiting for one to arrive in mail,i picked it up off of here.i am more then happy with my GT.But wanted another choke to try.
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they are suppose to be the "holy grail" of choke tubes for the Mossberg 835
I have one of the "walmart" ones,and it is a great choke,I have not found anything that it won't shoot.
Gotcha..the Derek Jeter of the Turkey choke world... ;D
Here's some info on the Preston Pittman Star Dot chokes. They don't have PTC Technologies on the back.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/medium/Preston_Pittman_Star_Dot.jpg)
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/medium/Preston_Pittman_Star_Dot_Back.jpg)
Now we know.
But my guess would be that PTC Technologies still made the Pittman chokes from what I can tell. I think all the Pittman Star Dot chokes had writing on the side of the tube. You may get some from the guy on ebay that has Pittman tubes in the other Star Dot packaging that say PTC Technologies on the back. But I'm pretty sure that the guy from Highlander Sports at the time just used what pakaging he had when all these fakes were being made and just put chokes in them as he seen fit.
I just saw this thread after purchasing from this guy:
My pitman choke has 12 ports and is squared off at the end.
This ptc choke has 14 ports and rounded off
Both chokes are for invector systems
Quote from: Quax on February 07, 2014, 01:26:56 PM
I just saw this thread after purchasing from this guy:
My pitman choke has 12 ports and is squared off at the end.
This ptc choke has 14 ports and rounded off
Both chokes are for invector systems
Show me a picture.
And it could be that somebody else made the Pittman chokes.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v498/quax/Mobile%20Uploads/1391799776.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v498/quax/Mobile%20Uploads/1391799814.jpg)
Pitman choke
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v498/quax/Mobile%20Uploads/1391799864.jpg)
That's just a grooved end choke just like the ones PTC Technologies made.
The Star Chokes made by Colonial Arms had 10 ports and knurled at the top. The fake ones that were made by PTC Technologies had 12 ports and were grooved at the top.
I would say the Pitmman choke was the one that had 14 ports if that is what you counted and it was in the wrong packge.
The one I got yesterday off eBay that had a grooved end and was in a ptc package has 14 ports.
The last picture is the one I already had; it has 12 ports. Think it came in pitman packaging.