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Title: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: TRKYHTR on July 10, 2013, 05:25:48 PM
This is an Amboyna Burl trumpet with A brass ferrule and a delrin or buffalo horn screw in mouthpiece. Soundfile at the bottom.

TRKYHTR

(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff214/trkyhtr/Trumpets/007-4.jpg) (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/trkyhtr/media/Trumpets/007-4.jpg.html)

(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff214/trkyhtr/Trumpets/010-8.jpg) (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/trkyhtr/media/Trumpets/010-8.jpg.html)

(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff214/trkyhtr/Trumpets/011-3.jpg) (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/trkyhtr/media/Trumpets/011-3.jpg.html)

(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff214/trkyhtr/Trumpets/013-5.jpg) (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/trkyhtr/media/Trumpets/013-5.jpg.html)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay4BXrnjc8k

Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: Austy on July 10, 2013, 05:55:07 PM
Very Nice looking call Joe!!!
Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: vaturkey on July 10, 2013, 05:58:46 PM

That's a beauty Joe !   :icon_thumright:




   vaturkey   :newmascot:
Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: savduck on July 10, 2013, 07:56:16 PM
 Nice work Joe
Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: krm on July 10, 2013, 08:29:16 PM
Very nice :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: DirtNap647 on July 10, 2013, 08:49:38 PM
looks good  :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: nitro on July 11, 2013, 07:30:28 AM
Nice Buice style yelper...
Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: Houndstooth Game Calls on July 11, 2013, 11:35:49 AM
Looks like a nice Slaton style trumpet to me! Very Nice Joe sounds good!!
Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: WillowRidgeCalls on July 11, 2013, 05:29:14 PM
Good sounding trumpet Joe.  :camohat:
Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: TRKYHTR on July 11, 2013, 05:40:59 PM
Just an update on this trumpet. I called and talked with Billy Buice today. He has a patent on anything interchangeable with the mouthpiece of a trumpet. I can make the moutpiece like I did but when I sale it I have to glue it in so it's not interchangeable.

Joe
Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: pappy on July 11, 2013, 05:41:40 PM
Very impressive Joe, that is a sweet caller, sounds like a champ to me!!!!
Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: vaturkey on July 11, 2013, 08:16:18 PM
Quote from: TRKYHTR on July 11, 2013, 05:40:59 PM
Just an update on this trumpet. I called and talked with Billy Buice today. He has a patent on anything interchangeable with the mouthpiece of a trumpet. I can make the moutpiece like I did but when I sale it I have to glue it in so it's not interchangeable.

Joe

Joe

Im not a call maker but I would nicely ask for a copy of that patent before I glued in that mouthpiece. Just curious !!  Anything interchangeable sounds hard to believe ! 
Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: Houndstooth Game Calls on July 11, 2013, 08:59:10 PM
I have seen a lot of you copied this you copied that and I patent this and I have a patent on that lately through other forums also.. I don't disrespect that someone has come up with something worthy of that but I am no doubt missing something how come potcalls aren't patented the use for pedestals or designs of pedestals what about all these reproduction boxes and one siders aren't patented.. I looked at some info on patents they lasted for 20yrs and there was 14 yrs on design patent after that its gone is what I understand or that's what I read.. Heck I am curious about it I see so much crap about you copied this you copied that heck lets see some patent numbers and see what's smoke and what's written and I don't mean anything towards Mr. Buice he was the first trumpet I ever bought and a genuine guy to deal with and am great full for the quality he's brought to the trumpet I have no intentions on threading a mouth piece I like a number three by Buice so that's the size I stay with on my own.. Guess I like to see the facts, I saw where a fella had built a 4 or 5 inch tube that flared on the end and a few folks were picking at him about a strumpet and he was copying it which it looked nothing like a strumpet.. After all every box and every potcall is a design copy from who ever built the first wouldn't it be and box single side and double? So no disrespect to the folks that have patent things parts or process congrats is due but just what is patented in the game call industry?? Just thoughts and questions is all...
Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: vaturkey on July 11, 2013, 09:08:26 PM
Quote from: Houndstooth Game Calls on July 11, 2013, 08:59:10 PM
I have seen a lot of you copied this you copied that and I patent this and I have a patent on that lately through other forums also.. I don't disrespect that someone has come up with something worthy of that but I am no doubt missing something how come potcalls aren't patented the use for pedestals or designs of pedestals what about all these reproduction boxes and one siders aren't patented.. I looked at some info on patents they lasted for 20yrs and there was 14 yrs on design patent after that its gone is what I understand or that's what I read.. Heck I am curious about it I see so much crap about you copied this you copied that heck lets see some patent numbers and see what's smoke and what's written and I don't mean anything towards Mr. Buice he was the first trumpet I ever bought and a genuine guy to deal with and am great full for the quality he's brought to the trumpet I have no intentions on threading a mouth piece I like a number three by Buice so that's the size I stay with on my own.. Guess I like to see the facts, I saw where a fella had built a 4 or 5 inch tube that flared on the end and a few folks were picking at him about a strumpet and he was copying it which it looked nothing like a strumpet.. After all every box and every potcall is a design copy from who ever built the first wouldn't it be and box single side and double? So no disrespect to the folks that have patent things parts or process congrats is due but just what is patented in the game call industry?? Just thoughts and questions is all...

Well Said Lyle !   :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: ccleroy on July 11, 2013, 09:14:02 PM
Quote from: vaturkey on July 11, 2013, 08:16:18 PM
Quote from: TRKYHTR on July 11, 2013, 05:40:59 PM
Just an update on this trumpet. I called and talked with Billy Buice today. He has a patent on anything interchangeable with the mouthpiece of a trumpet. I can make the moutpiece like I did but when I sale it I have to glue it in so it's not interchangeable.

Joe

Joe

Im not a call maker but I would nicely ask for a copy of that patent before I glued in that mouthpiece. Just curious !!  Anything interchangeable sounds hard to believe !

Billy has been making interchangeable mouthpieces for years and does indeed hold several patents, including the screw in mouthpiece. Great looking trumpet Joe and way to touch base with Billy, says a lot about your character and what kind of man you are. Very Classy Brother, again fine work

Ricky
Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: mikejd on July 11, 2013, 09:25:43 PM
Very nice, and a great sounding call to.
Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: hunter22 on July 11, 2013, 09:41:45 PM
Great looking call Joe. I am glad you called Billy. When I saw the mp I instantly thought of Billy and knew he had a patent on that. I am glad it did not turn into a major ordeal like I recently saw on another forum like Lyle mentioned.
Title: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: Gut_Pile on July 11, 2013, 09:49:30 PM
Quote from: TRKYHTR on July 11, 2013, 05:40:59 PM
Just an update on this trumpet. I called and talked with Billy Buice today. He has a patent on anything interchangeable with the mouthpiece of a trumpet. I can make the moutpiece like I did but when I sale it I have to glue it in so it's not interchangeable.

Joe

Very strong move Mr. Joe. Happy to hear you got in touch with Billy
Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: Houndstooth Game Calls on July 11, 2013, 10:12:46 PM
Joe is no doubt a great guy and I commend him for calling Billy.. But what if Joe built this trumpet and patent had dissolved because of the 20 yr or 14yr patent had expired which is what I read and this is a scenario that will happen in the future for certain as has happened with box calls or pot call patents..Does he have the right to build it then or not? Personally I was amazed I connected a 6 in 1/8 hole  with out blowing out the side of the blank lol muchless thread a dang mouth piece haha.. I am just asking questions to what I have read.. I wished I had enough money to buy a trumpet from all you fellas but my wife would run me off!! I also wish someone that knows about patent process with calls would answer some of the questions out there I am sure there's plenty of members with the same questions... Joe your a great guy and I appreciate your willingness to help me on building my own trumpet also I would have been lost lol and thanks to my buddy Del for turning me on to trumpets in the woods and Mr. Buices trumpets, there killers for sure! Have great night fellas!!
Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: savduck on July 11, 2013, 10:56:17 PM
I think many people forget how much the internet, and sites like this contribute to the popularity of trumpet calls the last three years or so. There are call makers making and buyers buying, and requesting things in trumpets that they may not know exists already because they dont have the knowledge and history. They just see cool stuff and get interested. I think a lot of call makers are always trying to improve and come up with new things without knowing what is already out there.

Im a huge fan of Billys and speak with him probably once a month. I also speak with Joe often, and have several of his proto type trumpets. I can tell you he comes up with ideas. He has Pmed me several ideas before he tried them. He isnt intenially copying or trying to steal anybodies stuff.

Personally, I think he came up a great looking " turpin" style trumpet, which by the way is probably the most commonly made body style of trumpet. It just happened to have a screw in mouth piece that he didnt know somebody had a patent on. Now he knows. He also manned up and called Billy.

Thats huge gonads, huge character...and dang it, if you can get past the screw in mouth piece, a DAMN fine lookin yelper.

Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: Old Timer53 on July 12, 2013, 07:40:12 AM

That be one fine looking call for sure
Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: pappy on July 12, 2013, 10:42:15 AM
As long as there are call makers there will be discussions on "Who's is Who's" when it comes to designs or features of the call in question. Sometimes it is good for the call maker, sometimes it bites them in their back side. But all in all, if our site was just for hunters and not for call makers then would we hear things like..." you hunt like so and so...or....you carry your gun like so and so or shoot like so and so.."? I see where you some of are coming from, as to the  "it's stuff like this turns me off online sites" thing, but look at everything else in the world that has "competition" between them...car manufacturers have been at each others throats for years, clothing makers claim to have their ideas taken from each other, even how food is marketed and processed has claims of fraud and theft. so it is gonna be there. With call makers it insights "new ideas" from "old ways" I know I have been accused in the past of things, and have claimed my innocence or have taken a stand, but in the end, it has helped me in  my thinking process when it comes to my creative side. Not any different then Billy or Joe or Turpin or Cost or any of the rest of the call makers out there or who have passed on, each person who makes them, will eventually cross over that very thin line, purely accidentally, on design or internals, because there is only so much one can do with wood and metal... so many issues have arisen on other sites where this stuff is pushed beyond the limits, and it accomplishes absolutely nothing for the site or the call makers, as far as popularity goes, but if an individual were to use such "friendly" discussions as a tool for thought, and apply it to their ingenuity and inventiveness in their call making, WOW what a world of calls we would have. TO ALL CALL MAKERS, JUST KEEP ON KEEPING ON, RESPECT EACH OTHER AND LEARN FROM EACH OTHER.  TO ALL POSTERS, RESPECT THE CALL MAKERS AND LEAVE THEIR JOURNEYS UP TO THEM TO TRAVEL.
Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: Wingboneman on July 15, 2013, 11:42:46 PM
Is the patent up? 
Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: barry on July 16, 2013, 03:42:45 PM
All this patent talk has got me wondering if I can patent my little Doan's can tubes calls. :toothy9:

Great call Joe and kudos for calling Mr. Billy.
Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: barry on July 16, 2013, 04:03:38 PM
Here's a link to the patent Mr. Billy lists for his trumpets.
Some of you guys may be able to understand it, I don't.


http://www.google.com/patents/US4642065
Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: Houndstooth Game Calls on July 16, 2013, 06:28:08 PM
Dang Barry that's some technical stuff.. Didn't see Mr. Buices name on it but looks like these guys had a patent on the press in mouth piece and a mid section and exhaust.. Says the patent has lapsed never seen a trumpet like these but I bet there's some collectors on here that have them.. Interesting caller and facts...
Title: Re: Amboyna Burl Trumpet
Post by: Gawhitaker on July 20, 2013, 01:49:44 PM
Great looking and sounding trumpet.