Which would you choose and why.
i love my 835 patterns are great, has not failed me, and they are not a bad $ ....
Man that's a tough one. I've shot both and they both have excellent reputations.
I like the overbored barrel on the 835 they produce some jam up patterns.
The 870 is the small block Chevrolet of pump shotguns. Seems everybody has one and everybody makes a after market product for it.
I couldnt pick just one. Mostly because I'd be hard headed and get a 20ga 870, just so I'd have the excuse to buy a 835 later.
In all seriousness as tough of a decision it is. I'd pick the 870. They are affordable, reliable and everybody makes aftermarket parts for them.
As a pure turkey gun I am a firm believer in the 835 and 935. They produce great patterns and can be easily set up. After market items are not hard to come by or overly expensive. I am an 835er, but the 870 is a great gun as well. Good luck!
The 835 utilizes a tang safety which works for both left or right handed shooters. You can maintain shooting position and quietly push off the safety with just your thumb. Easier to visually check that you are safe, since the safety on the top of the gun rather than on the side.
These are points that I gave no real thought to, until my girlfriend started to use it when I took her out hunting.
Both are awesome guns. I love my 11-87 so I probably would lean towards the 870 myself (just a little biased)....
Quote from: davisd9 on May 10, 2013, 11:14:46 AM
As a pure turkey gun I am a firm believer in the 835 and 935. They produce great patterns and can be easily set up. After market items are not hard to come by or overly expensive. I am an 835er, but the 870 is a great gun as well. Good luck!
I could'nt have said it better. I have both. But for the best turkey blaster for overall best patterns the 870 can't beat the .775 overbored barrel on the 835. Remington will never own up to that statement, but I can tell you without a doubt the 835 is probably without question the best shooting 12GA shotgun there is with most loads.
870. I've owned both and I just like the 870 better. Just feels more solid to me. Mossbergs rattle too much for my liking.
870 for me they are just plain and simple tough as nails a friend who hunts with me has an 835 and likes it but it wont pattern with my 870, but he has killed a pile of birds with it.I have always wondered why the 835 has the larger barrel but it seems to work.
I must say the 870 is the better made shotgun. But the Moss 835 comes with the better 10yr warranty. And I believe both will last a lifetime. And I do agree the 870 forearm isn't as loose when you wiggle it vs the 835. But it's nowhere near as bad as a lot of guys that don't like the 835's say. Now I love my 870 and would never sell it. But the 835 with a Star Dot choke shooting Hevi-13 3.5" #7's is one wicked pattern that would be hard to beat. And that's not just on my 835 I am talking about. That choke and shell combo I would bet money will work on almost every single 835 out there.
I have both, 835 tactical turkey and a surshot 870 super mag. My 870 hasn't been used in 3 year's since I got the 835. The 835 tactical has to be the easiest and best turkey only gun to setup, the 336 marlin mount fits the factory holes and it out patterns my 870 with hevi 13 3.5 2.25oz 7's with a sumtoy .675 choke. Last is that stupid strap on the forend I was going to take off till I had to wait almost an hour for a bird to reach me and boy it was nice to hold rather then having ur hand turned holding the forend for that long of time. So that's my opinion not that my 870 isn't a nice gun just my 835 is my favorite for now.
For turkey hunting I would strongly go with an 835. I like the overbored barrell, ports and overall make up of the Mossberg Turkey Models. I think they have got it right! :you_rock:
You can't go wrong with either one. I chose the 835 for the over bored barrel, great patterns, thumb safety and it fits me really well. With the help from the guys on OG, it was very easy to optimize the pattern. It does kill on both ends but I don't notice it with a quality recoil pad. Both guns are GREAT guns, if your in the market for one then handle them both and get the one that fits you the best. Good Luck with your selection.
Both guns are excellent and you cant go wrong with either. I do prefer the 835 for its over bored barrel and tang safety. The 835 is also a little lighter than the 870 which makes it easier to carry on long hikes. As far as rattling goes my 26 year old 500 rattles a little but my 835 does not make sound. Let us know which one you choose and why. Just curious.
If I had to have a pump and I were going to use it as a turkey gun only I would go with the 835.
I have buddies have am 870 and a 835 but I would pick the 835 because of pattern and ease of setup.
I've had em all and I will say I've never owned an 870 that would hang with the 835 at the pattern board, the first 835 I had would throw lead patterns that I would be called a liar on here about, but I just thought it was normal for the right combo. I was young and dumb and swapped the gun off and I would give $1000 for that gun back right now if I knew who had it. I am a fan of a tang safety. I still have my 935 and I have since moved to the 10 gauge world for the ability to load heavy payloads
I have shot Mossbergs all of my life,they are my shotguns,carried a 500 the 6 years that I was employed by Uncle Sam (Army).
not another gun that can beat the 835 at the pattern board that I have seen.
If it were all about the patterns I'd pick the 835 without a doubt. But it's not.. The 870 just feels so much better to me in my hands than the 835. I also love the shurshot stock and extended forearms of the 870. Throw a timney trigger on that bad boy, some type of sights and an Indian Creek choke, then you'll have perfect turkey slaying machine! :you_rock:
You can't make a bad choice here. I have both but I use the 870 for turkey hunting. It shot and patterned better for me out of the two. I let new turkey hunters use my Mossberg in which case several have now bought their on Mossberg.
I have owned both the 835 and the 870. I still have the 870. The 835 went down the road. It shot great patterns but was too light, seemed cheaply made and kicked too much for my taste. I would rather shoot my Browning 10Ga. BPS than that 835!
The kick comes form the hard recoil pad that comses standard on the 835. I changed both my recoil pads out on my 835 and 870. I put a SIMS on the 835 and the better Remington pad forgot the name. But now if I shoot a 3" turkey load in each I would say the 870 kicks harder. The reason I say that it's lighter. But all 3" or 3.5" turkey loads are going to kick. There is no getting around that unless you shoot off of a lead sled.
I own both guns and there is no comparison on the quality, the patterns or the workmanship on these guns....The 870 is and will always be the baddest, toughest, and most dependable shotgun of them all. You can use it for a boat paddle and not clean it for 2 months and tha baby will fire everytime....The mossberg is a piece of junk....I've talked with many hunters and they all say the same.
870 is king
870......period
835 , already drilled and tapped , tang safety , over sized bore
870 all the way the sm block chevy of the shotgun world they should give a bottle of asprin and a mouthpiece out with every 835 guns throw wicked patterns a good gun but will stay with my 870
I was always a die hard mossberg guy. I now have a 870 supermag. Best shotgun I own.
Now only if mossberg would have a slide as tight as a winchester with the quality of a remington....then I woke up!
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I have both I would have to vote for Remington little more quality
Remington's quality isn't what it used to be. Matter of fact, the fit and finish of the last 870 I bought was much worse than a Mossberg.
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Quote from: goblr77 on May 12, 2013, 09:44:10 PM
Remington's quality isn't what it used to be. Matter of fact, the fit and finish of the last 870 I bought was much worse than a Mossberg.
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Myles,
So is that a vote for the Moss 835? We know which one shoots the best now don't we? :icon_thumright:
Remington 870. Had several Mossbergs 12g's and a 20g. Back in the day when I was shooting lead. Shot the MAD choke and factory choke. Decent patterns with 3.5 lead but it would kick the dog piss out of you. Rattled like hell, enough to cause concern when moving on a turkey. Gunsmith told me there wasn't a quality peice of metal in the gun. They may have changed now as I haven't used one in allot of years. Ive been carrying around Remington 870's in the turkey woods for 33 years. No malfunctions, great patterns. Tested them under the worst conditions back in 80's duck hunting. This discussion is sorta like Ford vs Chevy. People swear by both. I just shoot what I feel most comfortable with..Rem 870. I have three and my son will probably be able to pass them on to his children. Durable as it gets..
I am a Remington man at heart. I grew up shooting a 870. My dad had a 870. I bought 2 more later on actually had 4 at one time. Great guns and I love them as much as any gun I have owned. I had a Rem 1100 that I bought when I was 21. I recently sold it. I bought my boy a brand new 700BDL 25-06 for a deer rifle. I have owned a Rem Sendaro stainless fluted 25-06 that shot really well. I even had a Rem 700BDL 7mm Rem Mag at one time. I have owned 3 Rem 572BDL 22's. So you can see I grew up shooting Remingtons. But the main advantage I liked about owning Remington shotguns is that they would shoot pretty much dead center with factory bead. And I got to admit that had I not bought the 835, I would still say the 870 would be my favorite turkey gun. But the pattern advantage is the only reason why I picked the 835 as the ultimate turkey gun. But with the right choke and loads, the 870 can kill one as far as I care to shoot.
I am 52 years old and you mean to tell me that there is another shotgun out there besides the 870?................. :OGturkeyhead:
870 Remington hands down.
Close race so far Remington 13 votes Mossberg 12votes...
Remington
From a Browning fan
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I have never shot an 870, but they are a fine looking shotgunand have a fantastic reputation. However, my 835 with an SSX .670 shooting 3-2-7 Hevi-13 does everything I need. The 3" shell isn't as hard on the shouder, and still throws a wicked pattern.
Just ask this guy:
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The most important thing is how it fits YOU. Not how it fits us. I don't beleve you can go wrong either way. Good luck!
I've had 3 835's and 2 870's. I don't own an 835 now and still have both the 870's. The 835's were good guns and I killed a lot of birds with a mossy, but I just like the 870 better. In "my opinion" the 835 patterns a little better but i like the way an 870 is built better. I can strip an 870 all the way down and throw er back together in no time. The mossbergs are a little more tricky to get back together. Personally one is just as good as the other and you can't go wrong with either one. Whichever one feels better to "you" is the better gun for ya.
Quote from: chatterbox on May 14, 2013, 03:30:41 PM
I have never shot an 870, but they are a fine looking shotgunand have a fantastic reputation. However, my 835 with an SSX .670 shooting 3-2-7 Hevi-13 does everything I need. The 3" shell isn't as hard on the shouder, and still throws a wicked pattern.
Just ask this guy:
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The most important thing is how it fits YOU. Not how it fits us. I don't beleve you can go wrong either way. Good luck!
Congratulations! A very dead bird indeed.
Thanks,
Clark
Mossberg 835 without a doubt in my opinion
Ended up with a Remington 3" 870. Now to find a good turkey load for it.
870 all the way
Remington 870 for me. They are like the AR-15 of shotguns; tons of aftermarket support for them. They are tough, reliable shotguns that are made in the USA.
I have both and I really like both.
I have had the 835 since 1998 and killed every bird until this year with it. I love the over-bored barrel and the tang safety. I don't like the fact the pump has a wiggle to it. It is also pretty heavy. I put a 24 inch barrel on it and a Mossberg extended XX full choke in it and I shoot in the 140s to 150s in a 10 inch circle at 40 yards with 3 1/2 inch Winchester XX 6's.
I won an 870 Express two years ago in a calling contest and just started hunting with it this year. It is only a 3 inch gun, but I put and Indian Creek in it and shoot Hevi number 6s and it puts 200 in the 10 inch circle. I like that it is a "tight" gun and is balanced. Not a huge fan of the Remington safety, probably just used to the Mossberg. I also do not like the finish on it. Not sure what Remington calls it, but it rusts easy. I chalk it up to being the bottom of the line model. I have friends with older super mags and special purpose models that are absolutely wonderful guns.
Bottom line, for turkey guns these two are hard to beat. They shoot as good as any expensive gun for a fraction of the price. you can take the extra cash from not buying a $1000 gun and go on an out of state turkey trip!
Have both....been using the 870 supermag with Federal HW #7 in 3 1/2 inch shells for the last five years.......It's a turkey killing sob!!