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Title: No Spurs
Post by: mudcreek on April 15, 2013, 07:34:59 AM
Killed a nice 20 lb + Gobbler at 1:30 Saturday the 13th. 10 1/2 beard, nice and thick.  But the rascal had no spurs! Not a sign, not a bump, nothing.  When I cleaned him, he only had one testicle.  Any body else ever experience  this?
Title: Re: No Spurs
Post by: tomstopper on April 15, 2013, 07:38:03 AM
Nope. Personally I have heard of small bumps on some big gobblers, but never about not even a trace of some. Definitely weird IMO.
Title: Re: No Spurs
Post by: TRKYHTR on April 15, 2013, 07:51:21 AM
I killed a mature gobbler this year that had no spurs. My Goulds I killed only had 1 spur. Sometimes it can be genetics other times they can get broke off. Congrats on a nice gobbler anyway. He needed killin.

TRKYHTR
Title: Re: No Spurs
Post by: chcltlabz on April 15, 2013, 08:36:14 AM
My first merriam had no spurs, and we killed 2 of them that year without spurs.  We've killed around 4 in that same area without spurs, so maybe it is genetic.  No bumps, wounds or anything.  Looked like hen legs.

Can't say I've ever gone so far as to look for turkey testicles though.
Title: Re: No Spurs
Post by: redarrow on April 15, 2013, 09:10:45 AM
 
Can't say I've ever gone so far as to look for turkey testicles though.
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Shot one a few years ago. 10 in beard,full fan,weighed about 17 pounds and had little bumps for spurs.Ain't never seen a turkeys tools or even know where to look. ???
Title: Re: No Spurs
Post by: cuppednlocked on April 15, 2013, 09:25:02 AM
Quote from: chcltlabz on April 15, 2013, 08:36:14 AMCan't say I've ever gone so far as to look for turkey testicles though.

C'mon Brent!  That's not the first thing you look at when you're standing over one???   :z-guntootsmiley:
Title: Re: No Spurs
Post by: 870FaceLift on April 15, 2013, 10:59:01 AM
I've never killed one without spurs, but I have one on trail cam now without them.  He he has a thick beard, full fan, but no bumps or anything.  This pics are clear and you can see he has nothing there. 
Title: Re: No Spurs
Post by: Sand Man on April 15, 2013, 11:23:54 AM
I killed one last year without spurs.  First I had ever seen or heard of as well until this thread.  My bird came in without another tom.  My friend killed the other bird.  They both had 10" ropes.  His bird had 1' spurs and mine had what looked more like a mosquito bite than spurs.  Very odd for a Rio.
Title: Re: No Spurs
Post by: RIStrutStopper on April 15, 2013, 11:29:23 AM
The first bird I killed had a 9.5" beard, a full fan and nothing but bumps for spurs. All the other ones I've shot since had at least something.
Title: Re: No Spurs
Post by: DirtNap647 on April 15, 2013, 12:53:09 PM
seems to be fairly common
Title: Re: No Spurs
Post by: guesswho on April 15, 2013, 12:54:30 PM
I've killed a a handful over the years that had no sign of a spur but good beards.
Title: Re: No Spurs
Post by: dirtnap on April 15, 2013, 09:11:01 PM
I have killed one with no spurs and called one for a neighbor with no spurs.  The legs were slick.  Both longbeards and both on WMA in SC. 
Title: No Spurs
Post by: mudhen on April 15, 2013, 09:16:23 PM
I've seen maybe 10+- over the years, slick legs, no trace of a spur or a spur scale...

mudhen
Title: Re: No Spurs
Post by: turkey_slayer on April 15, 2013, 10:06:26 PM
Killed one without spurs and a few that had bumps but were mature and one with 1 spur but missing the other. All from the same area
Title: Re: No Spurs
Post by: WV TURKEY THUG on April 15, 2013, 10:21:04 PM
Id like to shoot one with no spurs that would be pretty cool to see. Never saw a gobbler with no spurs . Does anyone have a pic of one they could post up easily if not don't worry about it.
Title: Re: No Spurs
Post by: renegade19 on April 15, 2013, 11:21:34 PM
Quote from: guesswho on April 15, 2013, 12:54:30 PM
I've killed a a handful over the years that had no sign of a spur but good beards.
This.  Ive seen 3 myself including the first one I ever killed.  Saw 2 birds and heard of a 3rd killed on one ridge  during different years that had no spurs.  Id say deffinately genetics on those 3.
Title: Re: No Spurs
Post by: howl on April 16, 2013, 08:48:43 AM
I've killed one with one smooth leg and a hook on the other. Other have had malformed or uncommonly short spurs. Most often, though, the spurs on older birds around here are broken or worn from all the rocks. I'm not big on measurements, etc., but its annoying to put in the time to get an old bird and find he won't hang off a limb.
Title: Re: No Spurs
Post by: Sand Man on April 16, 2013, 09:53:07 AM
Anyone know what causes the bird to have no spurs?  I didn't realize is was as common as it is.  I mean I know old birds in rocky areas will wear them down from walking or knock them off fighting, but I'm talking a bird that never grows any spurs.  It a genetic thing???
Title: Re: No Spurs
Post by: FttFttVroom! on April 16, 2013, 01:29:02 PM
Maybe Dr. Lovett Williams can bring some insight to this matter...I've never seen or heard of one without spurs.
Title: Re: No Spurs
Post by: guesswho on April 16, 2013, 01:41:47 PM
This turkey had about an 11" beard but no spurs.  Saw a few from that area that had either one spur or no spurs.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/olesixbeards/Nospur1.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/olesixbeards/media/Nospur1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: No Spurs
Post by: WV TURKEY THUG on April 16, 2013, 09:16:19 PM
Thats pretty odd thanks for the post
Title: Re: No Spurs
Post by: wbralo on April 16, 2013, 10:35:59 PM
I killed one last Friday with a 10 inch beard and slick legs. The bird had a good gobble and full fan. It must be something in the genetics. 
Title: Re: No Spurs
Post by: Old Gobbler on April 16, 2013, 11:01:06 PM
I have shot a few like that -I killed a gobbler that was 11 pounds 7.5 inch beard and no spurs what so ever , it had gobbler plumage and all ?  I think I shot the " Rosie O'Donnell " hen actually now that I think of it .... :wave:

seen some that had one spur 1 5/8 and the other pointing down , , others with one spur , killed plenty with them snapped partially or completely busted out  - seen some with two spurs on one leg etc....