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Title: benelli super black eagle 2
Post by: HOOK KILLER on April 04, 2013, 02:54:21 PM
Hello to all.....i havent been on here for a while but i knew this would be the place to ask a question about my benelli .  I currently have a 26" barrel.  I am wanting a 22" due to weight reduction and mobality.  I dont shoot long distances so the long barrel doesnt help me any.  I cant seem to find a barrel that short to fit my black eagle 2.  Any one know where i might find one or if they even make one 22". If not has anyone ever had their benelli barrel cut off and re threaded for choke and if so what was the outcome.  Thanks
Title: Re: benelli super black eagle 2
Post by: TheSportsman on April 04, 2013, 03:33:08 PM
I believe the shortest you can get it is a 24".  Ive seen 21" barrels for the old M1 90s...  Benelli barrels are $$$$$... Ive got a 26" on my SBE LH and have been on the search for a 24 myself.
Title: Re: benelli super black eagle 2
Post by: spaightlabs on April 04, 2013, 03:38:14 PM
While an extra 4 inches would help a lot of guys in a couple of areas...

What do you think 4 inches of shotgun barrel weighs?

4 inches in terms of increasing your 'mobility' really ain't gonna buy you much.

Send me $100 for saving you the smith work or the cost of a new barrel.

You are welcome.

Title: Re: benelli super black eagle 2
Post by: HOOK KILLER on April 04, 2013, 04:09:45 PM
I knew i would get a answer like that............... :drool:  Now lets move on i am going to have the barrel cutt.  Has anyone on here had a benelli barrel with the ciro coating in the barrel cutt off?
Title: Re: benelli super black eagle 2
Post by: spaightlabs on April 04, 2013, 05:16:38 PM
Shouldn't be an issue as they are going to have to thread the barrel a couple inches down from the end to accept the chokes s the threads are not at the very end.

Still think you are insane.  Bet it doesn't cut the weight 6 ounces and you gain the length of your index finger in 'mobility' while decreasing potential resale value.

That's what makes Merica great though! :smiley-char092:

Any qualified local smith should be able to do that for you.
Title: Re: benelli super black eagle 2
Post by: allaboutshooting on April 04, 2013, 05:29:08 PM
Quote from: HOOK KILLER on April 04, 2013, 02:54:21 PM
Hello to all.....i havent been on here for a while but i knew this would be the place to ask a question about my benelli .  I currently have a 26" barrel.  I am wanting a 22" due to weight reduction and mobality.  I dont shoot long distances so the long barrel doesnt help me any.  I cant seem to find a barrel that short to fit my black eagle 2.  Any one know where i might find one or if they even make one 22". If not has anyone ever had their benelli barrel cut off and re threaded for choke and if so what was the outcome.  Thanks

Just a couple of thoughts. The Benelli barrel is made from very good/hard steel and is of course chrome-lined. It's not easily cut properly and is very hard on tools

If you really want to have that barrel cut, I'd send it to someone who has done that on those barrels. If I were doing it I'd contact Rob Roberts at Rob Roberts Gunworks. He does the custom work for Benelli and could do it correctly.

The shortest factory barrels are 24" and somewhere in my memory it seems that there was some particular reason for that but I can't remember exactly why that was the case.

I have 26", 24" and 28" barrels for my SBE. The 26" is by far the best for patterns and I really can't tell any difference in how the 24" and the 26" handle in the goose pit, duck blind or turkey woods.

Lastly, if it were me and I really wanted a shorter barrel, I would call John Mann @ Mann & Son Sporting Goods (Since 1946) and see if he has a 24" barrel. He has a lot of Benelli barrels and is a Benelli parts distributor. He may also be able to tell you why they do not make a barrel shorter than 24" for those guns.

Thanks,
Clark
Title: Re: benelli super black eagle 2
Post by: the Ward on April 04, 2013, 08:26:48 PM
Being the benelli is an inertia action i think i read somewhere that inertia on recoil unlocks the bolt and the small amount of residual pressure in the barrel actually helps force the bolt back somewhat like delayed blowback.It was something along those lines,but prehaps a barrel shorter than 24 wont leave enough backpressure to operate reliably.Don't remember where i saw that now,maybe someone will know.But i agree that your better off just getting a factory 24 than cutting a perfectly good barrel,but to each their own!
Title: Re: benelli super black eagle 2
Post by: beagler on April 04, 2013, 08:39:58 PM
I have a 24" barrel on my SBE 2 and shoot a Rhino Choke (.660) with very good results.
Title: Re: benelli super black eagle 2
Post by: EMSDJ2 on April 05, 2013, 03:38:30 AM
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Title: benelli super black eagle 2
Post by: 01Foreman400 on April 05, 2013, 09:19:21 AM
They make a 21" M2 barrel.  I know a guy with a 19" SBE barrel with no issues.  I'd say it was more of a demand issue than anything else.


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Title: Re: benelli super black eagle 2
Post by: the Ward on April 05, 2013, 10:10:36 AM
I was trying to find that article last night,and i saw where they offer barrels shorter than 24" on the  tactical guns.Forgot they made those,my bad lol!Just was theorizing about why none shorter than 24' for a sbe2.You are probably correct about the demand issue.Don't think many sbe2's being used for door breaching and room clearing,lol!But with this "tactical"craze going on full bore,who knows,They may offer one yet.Just in time to compete with the versamax "tactical"I can just see the advertisment for it now....."3.5 inches of room clearing power in one handy compact uncontrollable package!"           
Title: benelli super black eagle 2
Post by: 01Foreman400 on April 05, 2013, 10:28:44 AM
I would buy a 21" camo SBE 2 barrel in a heartbeat. 


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Title: benelli super black eagle 2
Post by: 01Foreman400 on April 05, 2013, 10:29:17 AM
I'm think about buying a M2 camo with a 21" barrel.


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Title: Re: benelli super black eagle 2
Post by: the Ward on April 05, 2013, 10:38:32 AM
All kidding aside,with the  popularity of handy short barrel turkey guns,i'm suprized they haven't offered one in their turkey  lineup yet.
Title: benelli super black eagle 2
Post by: 01Foreman400 on April 05, 2013, 11:32:36 AM
Quote from: the Ward on April 05, 2013, 10:38:32 AM
All kidding aside,with the  popularity of handy short barrel turkey guns,i'm suprized they haven't offered one in their turkey  lineup yet.

They don't even make a 24" barrel in the Super Vinci......


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Title: Re: benelli super black eagle 2
Post by: the Ward on April 05, 2013, 12:20:26 PM
I'm sure they will at some point,as they offer a 3"vinci with one.If i remember correctly,the original vinci's were only offered in 26 and 28 when they were introduced.Benelli seems very slow at times releasing stuff.The raised cheekpiece/combs are just now becoming availabe for the vinci,even though they advertised them back in 09'.Part of the reason i bought it was the supposed accessorys that were going to be available to interchange.I guess they can't import the steadygrip for it as a seperate piece due to B.a.t.f regulations,same goes for the extended magazine tubes.Don't really care about the mag tubes,but it ticks me off i can't get the steady grip to swap on for turkey,then swap back for waterfowl.Oh well,maybe some manufacturer will start making them in the U.S.but it probably will end up costing $400 lol!Love Benellis,just wish the accessories wern't so darn expensive!
Title: benelli super black eagle 2
Post by: 01Foreman400 on April 05, 2013, 01:01:36 PM
Quote from: the Ward on April 05, 2013, 12:20:26 PM
I'm sure they will at some point,as they offer a 3"vinci with one.If i remember correctly,the original vinci's were only offered in 26 and 28 when they were introduced.Benelli seems very slow at times releasing stuff.The raised cheekpiece/combs are just now becoming availabe for the vinci,even though they advertised them back in 09'.Part of the reason i bought it was the supposed accessorys that were going to be available to interchange.I guess they can't import the steadygrip for it as a seperate piece due to B.a.t.f regulations,same goes for the extended magazine tubes.Don't really care about the mag tubes,but it ticks me off i can't get the steady grip to swap on for turkey,then swap back for waterfowl.Oh well,maybe some manufacturer will start making them in the U.S.but it probably will end up costing $400 lol!Love Benellis,just wish the accessories wern't so darn expensive!

They are very slow getting new products out.  You have to remember, things from benelli are expensive because the guns are expensive.  That's the way it is with everything. 


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Title: Re: benelli super black eagle 2
Post by: the Ward on April 05, 2013, 01:05:58 PM
 :agreed:
Title: Re: benelli super black eagle 2
Post by: sixbird on April 05, 2013, 09:36:29 PM
Clark has a good point regarding temper...I took my Bennelli SBEII to a local gunsmith who assured me that he could drill and tap the receiver for a scope mount...After ruining two or three drills and his threading tap, he gave it back to me with one threaded hole and three unthreaded ones and an embarrassed smile...It's still like that...That Crio is HARD!!!
I can see that you're determined but man, I'd be cautious!
Title: Re: benelli super black eagle 2
Post by: Borden811 on April 06, 2013, 11:25:33 AM
I went through the same thing with a buddies SBEII. He wanted it drilled and tapped. Took it to my smith(been in business over 50 years). Got it back two weeks later with one untapped hole, and three mangled partial holes. Said he broke about 100 bux worth of tools trying to do it, and he wasn't about to break any more! That benelli steel is tough!
Title: Re: benelli super black eagle 2
Post by: ILIKEHEVI-13 on April 06, 2013, 06:02:52 PM
Quote from: spaightlabs on April 04, 2013, 03:38:14 PM
While an extra 4 inches would help a lot of guys in a couple of areas...

What do you think 4 inches of shotgun barrel weighs?

4 inches in terms of increasing your 'mobility' really ain't gonna buy you much.

Send me $100 for saving you the smith work or the cost of a new barrel.

You are welcome.

Exactly. 

Every year people think shorter is better and weighs less.  Well truth be told shorter is'nt better and 4" shorter barrel weight ain't gonna matter much. 
Title: Re: benelli super black eagle 2
Post by: BINK McCARTY on April 16, 2013, 04:41:28 AM
I TOO AGREE W/ ALL ABOUT SHOOTING...ROB ROBERTS @ GOBBLER GUNS IN ARKANSAS 1-877-251-9955. I WOULD SAY HE CAN CUT & THREAD YR BBL TO WHATEVER LENGTH U DESIRE. HE DOES INDEED DO ALL OF BENELLIS CUSTOM SHOP TURKEY/WATERFOWL GUNS,IVE DEALT W/ ROB FOR SEVERAL YRS NOW & HE IS ONE OF THE MOST HELPFUL & KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE IN THIS LINE OF WORK AS ARE ALL OF HIS STAFF. I WOULD RECOMMEND U HAVE HIM LENGTHEN & POLISH THE FORCING CONE AND FIX U UP W/ A CHOKE AS WELL...ALL U NEED TO DO IS TELL HIM WHAT LOAD & DISTANCE U DESIRE.HOPE THIS WAS HELPFUL,AND HAPPY HUNTIN!!!!!
Title: Re: benelli super black eagle 2
Post by: Ridge Rooster on April 17, 2013, 05:04:19 PM
I think a 21" barrel would be cool. Hell I would buy one for mine in a heart beat if they offered it. I know that 4" is not much, but it does feel more handy. I have recently started reusing my old school 21" barreled 11-87 just because it feels so much handier. I am gonna look into an M2. Didn't realize they made one with a 21". My Benelli has a 24" but with the longer 3.5 capable receiver, it feels more like a 26"+. The more compact Remington just seems to fit my turkey hunting style a little better than a longer gun. Its no wonder that I have traded it off a couple times, but always went back to get her! Two gobblers have hated it this year already!!