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Title: Tom vs Jake decoy?
Post by: wisconsinteacher on March 07, 2011, 11:46:55 AM
I have a Jake Mobile and my dad has a full strutting decoy. (I don't remember which one but it is nice)  What one would you use if you were to use one?  We hunt mostly ag fields so we like to use decoys.  Which is better? 
Title: Re: Tom vs Jake decoy?
Post by: mmusso on March 07, 2011, 11:50:05 AM
I own and have used both. I've had better luck with Jake Mobile over the fullsize B-Mobile.
Title: Re: Tom vs Jake decoy?
Post by: Reloader on March 07, 2011, 11:57:36 AM
I've used a jake decoy at times for several years when hunting fields.  Last year I bought a strutter for field hunting in Texas and it was ok.  I'm going to switch back to the jake by a hen or two this season if I hunt fields.  The strutter will spook some toms away.  I feel it's probably great for a dominate tom, but will spook the birds that have been getting their tail kicked.  Even with dominate toms it seems they will come twds the jake decoy strutting their stuff like usual, but when they realize it's a jake, they run in to whip some tail and take the ladies. I've called some henned up toms off the ladies with a jake decoy next to a feeding hen decoy.

Most of the time it's best to go without decoys, but in an area where they can see them from a long way, it can be golden.

Reloader
Title: Re: Tom vs Jake decoy?
Post by: TauntoHawk on March 07, 2011, 12:07:25 PM
I think a Jake has a higher % of working. I'm gonna try using my bow this year so i will use decoys a lot more than I have previously

Run a Jake and 2 hen set
Title: Re: Tom vs Jake decoy?
Post by: Gobble! on March 07, 2011, 12:08:59 PM
I the past I have used b-monile with a real jake fan
this year I will be using the DSD strutter with a real jake fan
don't know if it really helps but it never hurt anything
Title: Re: Tom vs Jake decoy?
Post by: hookedspur on March 07, 2011, 12:11:20 PM
Quote from: mmusso on March 07, 2011, 11:50:05 AM
I own and have used both. I've had better luck with Jake Mobile over the fullsize B-Mobile.
:agreed:
Title: Re: Tom vs Jake decoy?
Post by: sugarray on March 07, 2011, 01:17:15 PM
I had 2 experiences last year that caused me to change my thinking:

#1:  Was out on youth day and my friend stated and showed me pics of a tom with 5-7 hens in his field.  He said they were there every day.  So, out we go with his son.  We are in a blind, tucked back into a down fall.  I put my Jake-mobile out with the jake fan up.  Put an upright hen on the ground, him about a yard behind, then another upright out.  I am going after this boss.  Well, he didn't show, but a wanderer did come in.  He stopped at about 75 yds and looked things over real good before heading up the hill and away from us.

#2:  2 days later I was hunting a boss that looked like he had 2 in spurs.  I saw him at 40 yds through my binocs.  Boy was I salivating over this guy.  Same set up as above.  Heard a gobble, called, gobble and closer.  So I was getting ready.  Finally see him about 60 yds away and he stops at 72 yds (I'm in my blind hiding from the rain and could use the range finder).  Same thing he is real leery.  I kept using soft clucks and purrs.  After about an hour standoff he finally struts, gobbles, eases his way to 38 yds and I let him have it.

Based on these 2 experiences I will not put my tail up.  Yeah, I might be hunting the dominant, but I don't want to scare those 2 yr olds that have been whipped away either.

So, Jake-mobile with a real fan, feathers cut to make look like a jake, and in the straight back position.
Title: Re: Tom vs Jake decoy?
Post by: bowhunter84 on March 07, 2011, 01:46:37 PM
Quote from: mmusso on March 07, 2011, 11:50:05 AM
I own and have used both. I've had better luck with Jake Mobile over the fullsize B-Mobile.


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Title: Re: Tom vs Jake decoy?
Post by: tomdown#4 on March 07, 2011, 01:59:29 PM
I have seen both decoys work, however, I prefer Jake Mobile as he is small and less intemidating. Two of my friends have actually had gobblers run away when they saw B-mobile.
Title: Re: Tom vs Jake decoy?
Post by: wisconsinteacher on March 07, 2011, 02:22:31 PM
So Sugarray, you put the tail horizontal with the ground and not upright like he is strutting?  I have had good luck with Jake.  Last year had two nice toms come in but both were misses.  My dad has used the tom and killed a few birds with it.  We were talking about them yesterday and were trying to figure out who's was the best.  Keep the info coming.
Title: Re: Tom vs Jake decoy?
Post by: vaturkey on March 07, 2011, 03:24:05 PM
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab7/Gobln2/002.jpg?t=1299528936)

These two DSD decoys are the ones I use. I have seen too many longbeards run from a big strutter but I have never seen a longbeard run from this jake. The first thing he will do when he sees the jake ,is go right to him & take him out. I have had gobblers come from over 300 yds to these decoys. IMO ,they are the best  !!     :newmascot:
Title: Re: Tom vs Jake decoy?
Post by: st4wheel on March 07, 2011, 03:34:33 PM
Those dsd"s dont collapse do they? I just hate to have to carry em around in my arms like I just won em at the fair! LOL
Title: Re: Tom vs Jake decoy?
Post by: vaturkey on March 07, 2011, 05:44:23 PM
Quote from: st4wheel on March 07, 2011, 03:34:33 PM
Those dsd"s dont collapse do they? I just hate to have to carry em around in my arms like I just won em at the fair! LOL

No they do not collapse. BUT , carrying  a BIG GOBBLER out the woods is more fun than being at the fair. Customgunsocks makes camo bags for these decoys.     :newmascot:
Title: Re: Tom vs Jake decoy?
Post by: neal on March 07, 2011, 05:46:26 PM
Jake
Title: Re: Tom vs Jake decoy?
Post by: TRKYHTR on March 07, 2011, 08:12:27 PM
Jake for sure.

TRKYHTR
Title: Re: Tom vs Jake decoy?
Post by: sugarray on March 07, 2011, 08:52:35 PM
Quote from: wisconsinteacher on March 07, 2011, 02:22:31 PM
So Sugarray, you put the tail horizontal with the ground and not upright like he is strutting?

Yep, kinda makes him look like the DSD pose.  Use the Primos fan holder, fold in the 2 outer sections or leave them open.  But it is straight out the back, not pointed down like the DSD.
Title: Re: Tom vs Jake decoy?
Post by: grousec on March 07, 2011, 09:28:29 PM
Give me B-moble.  By far the best decoy I have used.  Just don't put two of them out at the same time.  By buddy and I each carried a B-moble to the field opening day last spring and he said lets just put them both out.  We killed the bird but he hung up and strutted at 75 yards and it took an hour to get him in to the decoys.  Quite a show (but we won't do that again one b-moble at a time is enough). lol..
Title: Re: Tom vs Jake decoy?
Post by: surehuntsalot on March 08, 2011, 10:04:52 PM
jake    99% of the time
Title: Re: Tom vs Jake decoy?
Post by: redleg06 on March 09, 2011, 08:17:38 AM
Quote from: st4wheel on March 07, 2011, 03:34:33 PM
Those dsd"s dont collapse do they? I just hate to have to carry em around in my arms like I just won em at the fair! LOL

You must not be a duck hunter!!! 

buy a decoy bag (for duck decoys) toss them over your shoulder and at 2 lbs each, you wont know you're carrying them.
Title: Re: Tom vs Jake decoy?
Post by: busta biggun on March 09, 2011, 08:48:26 AM
Quote from: vaturkey on March 07, 2011, 03:24:05 PM
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab7/Gobln2/002.jpg?t=1299528936)

These two DSD decoys are the ones I use. I have seen too many longbeards run from a big strutter but I have never seen a longbeard run from this jake. The first thing he will do when he sees the jake ,is go right to him & take him out. I have had gobblers come from over 300 yds to these decoys. IMO ,they are the best  !!     :newmascot:

My experience as well. Great decoys.
Title: Re: Tom vs Jake decoy?
Post by: Timber Chicken on March 09, 2011, 09:10:11 AM
I like to use B Mobile the first @ or 3 weeks of the season while they are still sorting out the pecking order then finish the season with the DSD jake.