Since I went through some of my older targets to find a Ventilator pattern and post it in another thread. I seen these, and thought I would share. Now granted I didn't hit these whole turkey targets the best that I had taped to a bigger piece of cardboard at a taped 40yds, but I cut the target in half to show you just how dense 7's will in fact shoot. This is the backside of the H.S Strut turkey target. I labeled each to show to you guys. That's a 5.5" x 11" piece of paper just to give you a better perspective. It's gonna be tough to put many more than this in that piece of paper from each of those #7 loads.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/DSCF5159.JPG)
And notice the 2.25oz load out of the 835 beat the 3" load out of the 870.
Those 7's will always be king of the numbers. For some reason, they've never been stocked well by stores in central Mississippi. You'd find 6's and Magnum Blend, but very few 7's. Even 4's and 5's were more plentiful than 7's. Most stores didn't carry them at all. I guess people still compare them to the same sizes in Lead?
Well I posted them because some want to see patterns other than just 10" circles. And me being from the Show-Me state I figured I might as well post them. But just imagine centering each of those patterns over a gobblers neck at that distance. Yea I know other loads will work. Never said they wouldn't. But for total of hits, you won't beat the straight 7's.
I talked the owner of the local gun shop into buying some 7's in 3" and 3.5". He said they will be here either Thursday or Friday. So I'll have to get some more since he listened to me. I like helping those that help me. :funnyturkey:
Impressive as always Brad!!!
I prefer the Hevi 6's personally, but your patterns are always killer!
Thanks.
nice patterns...have you tried your haymaker choke yet?
Quote from: MrB0000M on April 03, 2013, 05:56:21 PM
nice patterns...have you tried your haymaker choke yet?
No I have not. It's going to be awhile if I do.
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on April 03, 2013, 07:16:37 PM
Quote from: MrB0000M on April 03, 2013, 05:56:21 PM
nice patterns...have you tried your haymaker choke yet?
No I have not. It's going to be awhile if I do.
I'll be testing the haymaker and the pg tempest .670 side by side with the heavyweighs and the super mag in a week or so. From 5's to 7's, outta be a fun time! Im hoping it really lays down mean patterns like the 20 does with the fed heavies.
be neat to see the results
Great reason to like them!
Quote from: WyoHunter on April 04, 2013, 01:16:16 AM
Great reason to like them!
Thank you sir.
Those 7's are for real. I do know that eventually with more and more people making the switch to 7's that they will in fact take over as the #1 seller for Hevi-Shot vs any otther load. Like I said none of their other loads will in fact put more shot in what your shooing at than what the 7's will. Now that's a no brainer to me. But some folks just don't believe that 7's pack the punch to kill a turkey at longer yardages like out to 40yds. I'm here to tell you that this stuff will zip right through a turkey neck at 40yds easily.
The two turkeys in my avatar we shot on Saturday. Both were shot at 32-34 yards, one was shot with a 3.5" 4x5x7 Nitro blend, BPS, Rhino tube and the other with a 3" hevi metal straight 7, 935, hevi metal tube. The straight 7 turkey hit the ground and hardly twitched, the Nitro turkey flopped and flopped. Both were shot with scoped guns off sand bags. Made a beliver out of me.
Theres no doubt they'll kill turkeys at 40 yds., I've killed multiple birds with hevi 7's. However I do not believe they pack the punch of other loads. I've went back to #5 lead, simply because from my experience out to 40 yds. with a good patterning gun #5's flat out smash turkeys. None of the birds I ever shot with hevi 7's were hit with comparable energy that lead #5's did at comparable yardages. To me, this only makes since. Lead has a tendency to squish or flatten out somewhat when it hits something there for expending its energy on that object. Htl is much harder, which helps it penetrate but not expend much energy. Now take those hevi 7's doing 1090 fps and compare that to a load of #5 lead doing 1300 fps. Like I said, these are my observations and opinions. With that said, we all know what they say about opinions! One thing is for sure, for factory loads they are no doubt the king of paper killers.
Quote from: darn2ten on April 04, 2013, 02:59:46 PM
Theres no doubt they'll kill turkeys at 40 yds., I've killed multiple birds with hevi 7's. However I do not believe they pack the punch of other loads. I've went back to #5 lead, simply because from my experience out to 40 yds. with a good patterning gun #5's flat out smash turkeys. None of the birds I ever shot with hevi 7's were hit with comparable energy that lead #5's did at comparable yardages. To me, this only makes since. Lead has a tendency to squish or flatten out somewhat when it hits something there for expending its energy on that object. Htl is much harder, which helps it penetrate but not expend much energy. Now take those hevi 7's doing 1090 fps and compare that to a load of #5 lead doing 1300 fps. Like I said, these are my observations and opinions. With that said, we all know what they say about opinions! One thing is for sure, for factory loads they are no doubt the king of paper killers.
That is why I shoot Hevi 6's! They smash turkeys! I am long time believer in Lead 5's and if I buy Win HV I will buy 5's, but all my blue/gold Fed's are 6's.
Killing turkey isn't about "knockdown power". It's about breaking the skull and vertebrae. More penetration+more pellets on target=more broken bones. Give me the 7s any day.
Quote from: Daman on April 04, 2013, 04:12:54 PM
Quote from: darn2ten on April 04, 2013, 02:59:46 PM
Theres no doubt they'll kill turkeys at 40 yds., I've killed multiple birds with hevi 7's. However I do not believe they pack the punch of other loads. I've went back to #5 lead, simply because from my experience out to 40 yds. with a good patterning gun #5's flat out smash turkeys. None of the birds I ever shot with hevi 7's were hit with comparable energy that lead #5's did at comparable yardages. To me, this only makes since. Lead has a tendency to squish or flatten out somewhat when it hits something there for expending its energy on that object. Htl is much harder, which helps it penetrate but not expend much energy. Now take those hevi 7's doing 1090 fps and compare that to a load of #5 lead doing 1300 fps. Like I said, these are my observations and opinions. With that said, we all know what they say about opinions! One thing is for sure, for factory loads they are no doubt the king of paper killers.
That is why I shoot Hevi 6's! They smash turkeys! I am long time believer in Lead 5's and if I buy Win HV I will buy 5's, but all my blue/gold Fed's are 6's.
I agree with the hevi 6's, a few more pellets ain't worth the energy trade off to me. Really it comes down to every time I pull the trigger it being 1 to 2 dollars vs. 5 to 6 dollars for there to be no true noticeable difference in 99% of most hunting situations. If it was strictly just a shell every now and then for a bird its no big deal, but I like to test, tinker, and hang out at the pattern board to much to justify the cost or any benefits of htl. I've probably shot around 75 or 80 turkey loads out of multiple guns this year, hate to think what the cost would have been if that was all hevi, a few were.
Those Win HV 1300 fps shells kick harder then any shell i have ever tried. They never really patterned that good for me, so there punishment wasn't worth it. I'll stick with H13 3.5/2.25 #7's
Quote from: teke on April 04, 2013, 04:45:35 PM
Those Win HV 1300 fps shells kick harder then any shell i have ever tried. They never really patterned that good for me, so there punishment wasn't worth it. I'll stick with H13 3.5/2.25 #7's
Well those HV wins. never patterned that good for me either, but the turkey thugs do. I pattern all my guns off a lead sled, and when your shooting at a turkey I really doubt your going to notice the difference in recoil from one shell to the next anyway.
I have made the switch to the Hevi-13 #7 because in the 20" non-polished barrel, it is a struggle for me to get the numbers I would like in the 10" circle. I have tried a ton of loads and chokes, and when I test under real hunting conditions weatherwise, my numbers are not great. I switched to the 3-2-7 hevi's, and I am now getting numbers and patterns that I am very, very happy with. I can shoot the 3" shell without the punishing recoil and vicious muzzle whip that can destroy patterns and accuracy.
I did not buy the #7's to extend my killing range beyond 40 yards. Personally, I feel 40 yards is a long walk, and I would much rather kill them at 30.
Those 7's are still packing a good punch, and if I respect and hold firm to the 40 yard and under rule, I have zero doubt these shells will do thier job as long as I do mine.
velocity ='s recoil thats for sure
I use to shoot lead 5's. I prefer the Hevi-13 #7's.
Quote from: Big Gun on April 04, 2013, 12:00:15 PM
The two turkeys in my avatar we shot on Saturday. Both were shot at 32-34 yards, one was shot with a 3.5" 4x5x7 Nitro blend, BPS, Rhino tube and the other with a 3" hevi metal straight 7, 935, hevi metal tube. The straight 7 turkey hit the ground and hardly twitched, the Nitro turkey flopped and flopped. Both were shot with scoped guns off sand bags. Made a beliver out of me.
Spreaad the word bro.
Those are awesome patterns for sure. I will shoot the hevishot #7's as long as they are available.