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Title: advice on diaphrams
Post by: turkeystrut on March 27, 2013, 09:18:00 PM
Hey guys, what are some easy blown diaphrams by hand made  callmakers that talk turkey? :drool:
Title: Re: advice on diaphrams
Post by: wvcurlytop on March 27, 2013, 09:25:21 PM
Hook's original executioner, Billy Yargus's final touch, and Cane Creek's CC smoker are three I found easy to blow.  JMO

Title: Re: advice on diaphrams
Post by: darron on March 27, 2013, 09:33:58 PM
I have tried a lot of mouth calls and I like canecreeks cane cutter
Title: Re: advice on diaphrams
Post by: Houndstooth Game Calls on March 27, 2013, 10:33:57 PM
Simply anything we make or any call that has proph for the bottom reeds garunteed!! If your looking for a easy call to run check out our Tom Bomb pro pack..
www.houndstoothgamecalls.com
Title: Re: advice on diaphrams
Post by: troutfisher13111 on March 28, 2013, 08:43:25 AM
I think u need to just try a few. I have been using diaphragm calls for 15 years and only can use about half the ones I buy, even among the same company. Number of reeds doesn't seem to matter. Not sure what it is, but thats how it is for me.
Title: Re: advice on diaphrams
Post by: SCGobbler on March 28, 2013, 01:18:32 PM
Diaphragms/Mouth Calls are a tricky business.

IMO it's hard for someone to advise on this.  You have to find something that is comfortable and that you can blow.

The standard "easy" call used to be anything with a double reed and no cut and I could never get turkey out of those.  It wasn't until Primos came out with the "turkey track" reed that I started getting turkey out of a diaphragm.  I can't even get turkey out of a "Quaker Boy " old boss hen.

Now I use some Legacy Game Calls, and all of my go too calls have ghost cuts, or snake tongue cuts on them.  My favorite looks a lot like a reverse cut kind of like the Woodhaven Stingers.  I used to think I was a pretty decent on a mouth yelper until I really started looking at competition callers and how they sounded.  With that being said, you don't have to be a competition caller to kill turkeys.  I have heard hen turkeys that I could have sworn were a man trespassing on my land until they came into view.

My best advice is to buy several with no cuts, and some with cuts and find something that works for you.

I also found that my best friends could use calls that I couldn't and vice versa, there is palette wideness and steepness to deal with, there is tongue thickness to deal with there is rolling your tongue to deal with, etc...

Good luck and I agree that a variety pack is your best bet.
Title: Re: advice on diaphrams
Post by: Uvagobbler on March 28, 2013, 01:48:20 PM
I would get a two reed call that is easy to blow. In the past I have bought name brand calls of the same model and would get different sounds from all of them. I have had luck HS ez rasp and knight and hale screamin hen II also. However, as the others said custom calls are great also. I've spent a pile of money on turkey calls and what works for me may not work for you. I personally would go with a two reed for starters. You may find the "magic call" fast or you may have to spend some money to find what works for you. Good luck.
Title: Re: advice on diaphrams
Post by: TauntoHawk on March 28, 2013, 01:53:57 PM
out of the 75ish mouth calls I have my top 3 brands are Hooks, David Halloran, and Houndstooth

A modified V 3 reed from houndstooth, hooks exicutioner II, Halloran combo cut TKO are all calls that i would consider extremely easy to blow and not too raspy to over power a begginer. I like a batwings for flydowns and gobbling
Title: Re: advice on diaphrams
Post by: Gooserbat on March 28, 2013, 07:44:13 PM
Try my Hillbilly or Black Magic.  Lyle is right anything with proph on bottom runs easy. 

http://gooserbatcalls.com/catalog.php?category=1 (http://gooserbatcalls.com/catalog.php?category=1)
Title: Re: advice on diaphrams
Post by: turkeystrut on March 29, 2013, 08:40:13 AM
Guy's I appreciate the advise .I am learning on these  mouth calls.They are harder to use than I anticipated.Buy what I understanding is the hand made diaphrams are more consistent than mass made calls.  :jesus-cross:
Title: Re: advice on diaphrams
Post by: MG150 on March 29, 2013, 12:10:37 PM
Just received my Tom Bomb Pro Pack from Houndstooth yesterday.I have struggled with mouthcalls for a few years,some I liked the yelp better,some were easier to cutt on,some were better to purr with.I just couldn't find that "magic"call like Uvagobbler was talking about.I am pretty sure that I have found that "magic" call for me with the Tom Bomb.Easy to do all the turkey sounds on one call.3 calls same cuts but 3 different turkeys.Lyle was right when he said he knows what a turkey sounds like.I now too have become a fan of Houndstooth calls.Thanks Lyle!  MG150
Title: Re: advice on diaphrams
Post by: bullet355 on March 29, 2013, 03:13:02 PM
Another vote for Houndstooth calls,  I really like the All pro 3 and the Dixie combo black in addition to the Tom Bomb. Every call of Lyle's I have tried is easy to run.
Title: Re: advice on diaphrams
Post by: troutfisher13111 on March 29, 2013, 03:52:24 PM
Damn, now I have to check out houndstooth :D
Title: Re: advice on diaphrams
Post by: MikeStaten on March 29, 2013, 06:43:02 PM
Hook's Devastator is the best mouth call I've tried so far. Also like their Executioner.  That said, prior to trying hooks my experience is limited to the mass produced calls such as primos and hs.
Title: advice on diaphrams
Post by: mtsrunner on March 30, 2013, 05:37:53 AM
I like Woodhaven calls because the tape stays nice and soft. I tend to keep a call in the side of my mouth and I have had some calls cause sores on my cheek and gums.
My favorites are the hornet competition, the single wing and the classic v2 and v3.
If you can get good sounds from a 2 reed, I with that because it is less likely to have the reeds stick together over the course of the day.


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Title: Re: advice on diaphrams
Post by: wvcurlytop on March 30, 2013, 07:59:07 AM
Lots of sound advice.. 
Title: Re: advice on diaphrams
Post by: GobbleNut on March 30, 2013, 08:39:17 AM
Another trick for all mouth call users:  If a call does not suit you, take a good pair of scissors and make slight modifications in the existing cuts in the call, or add new cuts.  For instance, if you have a V-cut call that doesn't sound good, just deepen the cuts slightly and try the call again... or cut the tips off of one or more of the points of the cuts,...or convert a V-cut call into a bat-cut, ghost-cut, or cutter-type call. 

There are all sorts of ways you can modify an existing call that might turn it into a great call when it was not usable beforehand.  I always get a chuckle out of certain call-makers that insist that if a call doesn't sound good right out of the package that it might as well be thrown away,...that it is just a lousy call.  Those guys are just trying to sell more calls rather than be helpful to the people that buy their calls. Most times, small modifications will make all the difference in a call, even one that sounds terrible to start with. 

Every mouth call user should make it a point to have a good pair of scissors on hand and never throw a call away without learning to go through the modification process before giving up on a call.  I have taken many calls that were absolute junk out of the package and turned them into gems by doing this.

I also agree that calls made with prophylactic reeds are almost always easier to use than those made from thicker reed materials.  They are also generally easier to make soft, quiet sounds with, as well.