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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Turkey Guns => Topic started by: Dr.Love on March 17, 2013, 03:33:10 PM

Title: Kicks Gobblin Thunder?
Post by: Dr.Love on March 17, 2013, 03:33:10 PM
The package says not to, but does anyone shoot hevishot out of there kicks choke tube?
Title: Re: Kicks Gobblin Thunder?
Post by: chipper on March 17, 2013, 03:38:27 PM
Shot a bunch of extended  range and hevi 13 through  a kicks gt  .665 and .675 in invector plus Sx3.
Title: Re: Kicks Gobblin Thunder?
Post by: jbrown on March 17, 2013, 09:13:24 PM
Shot a good many hevi 13 #6's out of my KGT, no problems.
Title: Re: Kicks Gobblin Thunder?
Post by: SKFOOTER on March 17, 2013, 09:14:10 PM
Been doing it for years as others on here have.  No problems yet. :OGturkeyhead:
Title: Re: Kicks Gobblin Thunder?
Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on March 17, 2013, 10:14:52 PM
All that writing on the packaging means, is that they will not replace a choke if it does split while using those loads.  Most chokemakers will.  Kick's and Comp-N-Choke won't.
Title: Kicks Gobblin Thunder?
Post by: FttFttVroom! on March 17, 2013, 10:32:52 PM
Put a ton of heavier than lead through a kicks .665 with no trouble.  Nice even patterns.
Title: Re: Kicks Gobblin Thunder?
Post by: Dr.Love on March 18, 2013, 02:46:46 PM
Been shooting it out if mine and it patterns real good. Didnt know what the problem was. Also didnt know if something else might pattern better.
Title: Re: Kicks Gobblin Thunder?
Post by: ILIKEHEVI-13 on March 18, 2013, 06:28:45 PM
I wouldn't think twice about shooting Hevi-13 loads through a Kicks choke.  I have looked at a Kicks choke at Bass Pro.  They are a beefy choke and made out of 17-4ph(pre-hardened) stainless steel which is in fact the exact same steel that all the other chokes companies are pretty much using nowadays that are Hevi-Shot approved.  I'll leave out whatelse I think due to I don't want to mention any names or what I truly believe is why they don't recommend Hevi-13 loads through their chokes. 
Title: Re: Kicks Gobblin Thunder?
Post by: Yoder409 on March 18, 2013, 10:17:41 PM
Both Kick's and Comp-N-Choke O.K. the use of Winchester Xtended through their tubes.  But that's the only one.  Chuck told me it's a function of the Rockwell hardness other HTL shots being harder than the choke tube steel.  In so many words he told me that 99 times out of 100 the pellets in all the other HTL shot strings will come into the tube, line up and exit in an orderly fashion.  It's that 100th time they don't want to hear about.
Title: Re: Kicks Gobblin Thunder?
Post by: Rockhound on March 18, 2013, 11:43:18 PM
 
Quote from: Yoder409 on March 18, 2013, 10:17:41 PM
Both Kick's and Comp-N-Choke O.K. the use of Winchester Xtended through their tubes.  But that's the only one.  Chuck told me it's a function of the Rockwell hardness other HTL shots being harder than the choke tube steel.  In so many words he told me that 99 times out of 100 the pellets in all the other HTL shot strings will come into the tube, line up and exit in an orderly fashion.  It's that 100th time they don't want to hear about.

What doesn't make since about this is he says nitrous are fine as well as federal heavyweight and TSS which are much heavier or bigger payloads than EM hevi
Title: Re: Kicks Gobblin Thunder?
Post by: ILIKEHEVI-13 on March 18, 2013, 11:52:58 PM
Both the Hevi-13 and the Winchester Xtended Range loads use 12g/cc shot from what was said on here along time ago by a guy that was very knowledgeable.  So if that is in fact the case what is the difference shooting either of them loads through a Kicks Gobblin Thunder choke?   

Title: Re: Kicks Gobblin Thunder?
Post by: Rockhound on March 19, 2013, 04:12:57 AM
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on March 18, 2013, 11:52:58 PM
Both the Hevi-13 and the Winchester Xtended Range loads use 12g/cc shot from what was said on here along time ago by a guy that was very knowledgeable.  So if that is in fact the case what is the difference shooting either of them loads through a Kicks Gobblin Thunder choke?   

I agree even the nitros use the 12 gram shot. And if that is not as bad as 15 or even 18 gram that he says is ok
Title: Re: Kicks Gobblin Thunder?
Post by: BandedSpur on March 19, 2013, 08:19:42 AM
Don't make the mistake of confusing hardness with density. Yes, EM  H13 and Winch XRHD are both 12 gm/cc in density, but HS is much harder than XRHD, and thus harder on chokes. And while TSS density is 18 gm/cc, a load of TSS 9s would be much less stressful on the choke than a load of H13 4s at 12 gm/cc due to the size of the pellets. The much smaller 9s wil flow through the choke much better than the larger but less dense H13 4s.

Don't get me wrong, I am not defending Mr. Boswell. Something smells very fishy about approving a Nitro shell loaded with HS mfg'ed by EM but not approving a H13 shell loaded with the same shot. Just saying that density and hardness are two very different concepts.
Title: Re: Re: Kicks Gobblin Thunder?
Post by: turkey_slayer on March 19, 2013, 10:10:48 AM
Quote from: BandedSpur on March 19, 2013, 08:19:42 AM
Don't make the mistake of confusing hardness with density. Yes, EM  H13 and Winch XRHD are both 12 gm/cc in density, but HS is much harder than XRHD, and thus harder on chokes. And while TSS density is 18 gm/cc, a load of TSS 9s would be much less stressful on the choke than a load of H13 4s at 12 gm/cc due to the size of the pellets. The much smaller 9s wil flow through the choke much better than the larger but less dense H13 4s.

Don't get me wrong, I am not defending Mr. Boswell. Something smells very fishy about approving a Nitro shell loaded with HS mfg'ed by EM but not approving a H13 shell loaded with the same shot. Just saying that density and hardness are two very different concepts.

Was about to type the same reply :P. He recommends Nitros but not hevi shot. They are the same shot which contradicts what he says. This question pops up a few times every year. Ive shot a ton of it thru a kicks with no trouble
Title: Re: Kicks Gobblin Thunder?
Post by: dawgfrombama on March 21, 2013, 02:29:08 PM
I shoot Winchester XRHD through mine and have great patterns.
Title: Re: Kicks Gobblin Thunder?
Post by: Tom Foolery on March 21, 2013, 08:00:34 PM
I have shot a lot of Rem Hevishot, old white hevishot shells, Nitro hevishot and hevi13 out of my Kicks .660.  The hevi 6's and 7's have always shot great, the Win Xtended range was always terrible from my guns.