What do you folks suggest that a new Turkey hunter use for the first call in the morning just when it starts to get light or should I stay quiet and just listen? Thanks for the help.
I try to wait for a bird to gobble on his own. If he gobbles while it is still early, I might do a soft tree yelp to let him know where I am and MAYBE a flydown cackle at flydown time, but I have learned to hold waaaay back on the calling while he is still in a tree. If I don't hear a bird gobble, I wait until I hear the crows flying and calling before I even think about making a call.
I like to let the birds make the first sound and then react accordingly. Unless I've roosted one the night before or I'm lucky enough to already be in a spot I think I can kill the bird at fly down, my first thought (before I ever make any kind of sound) is to try and get to a spot where I feel like I can kill him. If I'm able to get to a spot I think I can call him to, once he flys down, I'll give him a fly down cackle or some yelps.
I really dont like to call while their still on the limb and I wont call until I'm in a good spot to try and call him all the way in. In other words, I dont call and give up my position if I dont have a good set up.
I'm going to try less calling to roosted birds this year. But, I'd say tree peeps and then a fly down.
Let them gobble on their own first thing in the morning. Once it gets closer to flydown time ill give a few clucks and then use a wing to scratch the tree, then ill fly down with the wing and wait til he makes them next move.
Silence until the bird hits the ground.
Don't overcall. Often, less is more.
Quote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on March 11, 2013, 09:20:05 PM
Silence until the bird hits the ground.
Don't overcall. Often, less is more.
I agree with this, but somedays I just want to hear how many times I can get one to gobble (I seldom kill on those mornings). I also never use locator calls early in the day. A crow call after the sun is good and up, but I quit the owl hooting awhile ago.
Depends I reckon. If I'm calling to a bird that's assumed already on the ground I like to start off with soft yelps IF I don't hear any other competition. Use the soft calls to check his temperature. Then usually wait a few minutes or longer and let him gobble on his own in your direction and maybe just maybe throw out a carefully crafted series of clucks and soft yelps.
If you have competition that is serious, time to take the gloves off and pray and plan on more than likely waiting to kill him mid morning.
First thing I hit is the owl hoot. If I get a gobble I wait until i hear the little birds start chirping then real soft tree yelps.
Quote from: redarrow on March 11, 2013, 10:14:56 PM
First thing I hit is the owl hoot. If I get a gobble I wait until i hear the little birds start chirping then real soft tree yelps.
x2 but I also add in some wing flapping to imitate fly down. Just remember not to call to much.
If you're 150 or closer to him, call so soft that a man can't hear the call at 50 yards. If he answers, you're in the game.
I hunt plenty on public so I avoid getting them fired up in the dark when other hunters can close in on em' - if not hit em with the owl call and find out where they are at --
let him gobble for a bit , just before flydown , try hit him with a few cuts like a hen does when she flys down ( in contest lingo the jazzed up flydown cackle ) ( but in the woods they rip a few loud cuts as they pitch out off the limb), see if he likes that .... wait a while.... try a yelp , see if he likes that..... play hard to get , but available for a "date"
you want him to pitch out of that tree and come your way
you don't want him to get all worked up and start to gobble allot and attract other hunters , or sit on the limb for long periods , and stare down at your location , remember the more you call in open terrain , the more he will look directly at your location and look for movement - hide very well , or make like a rock and dont move a inch
good luck --Shannon
I suspect the advice here is GOLD. Will be working it in to my routine this year. Thanks to OP and turkey ninjas for the great content.
I also let the birds start gobbling on their own, BUT, I'm not very patient, so if they don't start when I want them to, I hit the owl call. Once I'm in position on a gobbling bird, I use a few, soft tree calls just to let him know I am there. Then I shut up, let him fly down and come looking for me.
I try NOT to call and just listen for a gobbler to go off on his own. If after a period of time (which may vary some) I don't hear anything I may try a crow call to make one shock gobble. If I know I'm in a gobbler's home turf and the area where he is roosted I may use a LOW tree call before daylight just to let him know I'm there. I do NOT overdo it. Calling one or twice is enough.
I'm of the more is less school of thought. Until he flies down just a tree call or two. He'll know where you are. If he's alone just a few soft yelps after he flies down and then let him come find me. If he's with hen(s) then all bets are off and I give him the heavy cutting and excited yelps. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
Soft tree calls unless there is a hen close. If there are hens close I pick a fight with them. Forget the gobbler and concentrate on the hens. He'll come to watch the cat fight or she will bring him.
My advice to beginner hunters is less is always more. Don't try to be to agressive like you see on TV shows, they are trying to get good gobble footage. If a bird starts working your way or pitches off the limb in your direction, most of the time the deal is made. Simple 3 to 4 note yelps has killed alot of birds and over aggressive calling has saved alot as well. The more they gobble, the better the chances are for another hunter to close in on you or him gobble up a hen.