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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Turkey Guns => Topic started by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on March 10, 2013, 10:49:26 PM

Title: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on March 10, 2013, 10:49:26 PM
3" #6 Turkey Thugs Lead at 40 Yards at 73 Degrees
3" 870 with 28" Barrel and .665 Indian Creek Choke

(http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m560/mallardmachete007/3inchnumber6ThugsampIC665Choke_zps654096e4.jpg)
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on March 10, 2013, 10:51:03 PM
.690 XFull Choke
(http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m560/mallardmachete007/3inchnumber6ThugsampXFullChoke_zpsd8e0d262.jpg)

.650 GT Choke
(http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m560/mallardmachete007/3inchnumber6Thugsamp650Choke_zpsb71b45f6.jpg)
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: knightrider on March 10, 2013, 10:56:57 PM
 :fud: :OGturkeyhead:
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: TnTurk on March 11, 2013, 01:30:09 AM
I think you just set a record with those patterns. It just aint gonna get any better that those. I think your patterning days are over my friend.   :fud:
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: booth on March 11, 2013, 01:39:12 AM
Going to pick some up this week.
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: captin_hook on March 11, 2013, 03:35:20 AM
Awsome patterns. It doesn't get much better with lead. Does anyone know if they make these shells in 3.5 inch?
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: captin_hook on March 11, 2013, 03:43:18 AM
Found the answer. Yes
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: WildSpur on March 11, 2013, 09:38:39 AM
Yep.  The 3.5" is a 2oz load.  Fortunately for me my Walmart has 5 and 6 shot.

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Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: lowoctane on March 11, 2013, 09:51:50 AM
Those are great hunting patterns!
DEAD ROOSTER!
:fud:                 :OGani:
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: Gooserbat on March 11, 2013, 10:27:45 AM
you had better quit now while your ahead.
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on March 11, 2013, 10:28:52 AM
These shells are Buffered Lead, without any Copper-plating or Nickel-plating.  Just hard Lead.  Simple-looking Wad.

I don't know why they work, they just work.
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: bowhunter2k9 on March 11, 2013, 10:35:21 AM
I wonder what a JH would do... I have to get some.. maybe in 3.5
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: BrowningGuy88 on March 11, 2013, 10:37:29 AM
I have several boxes of the old Feds in 3.5/2.25/5's and 6's - with the way these new ones are shooting I will be buying a bunch and adding to the stash!
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: Longshanks on March 11, 2013, 02:35:40 PM
Congrats! That's a great feeling when you turn patterns like that with lead. When I started turning 150-170 in a 10 @ 40 with Pb 6's out of my two lead slingers..I was done buying HTL. It's nice to pay 14.99 for 10 shells Win XX. :z-guntootsmiley:
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on March 11, 2013, 04:41:26 PM
Give me a federal load with the triple plus was any day over the fright control (not a typo).  My 835 puts up right at 160 avg with the grand slam 3.5/2/6 pb loads at 40 yards.  Looks like the new thug loads are nothing more than the old strut shoks...which is a GOOD THING.  The FC was was a fix for a problem that didn't exist unless you only hunted with a mod choked gun.  Even then the pattern performance upgrade still didn't set the world on fire.
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: 870BkWht on March 11, 2013, 04:43:13 PM
Who is loading these for Mossy Oak?  Sometimes I think the claim that shot is copper plated is more of a copper splash not an actual coating. Thanks for posting the review of these shells.
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on March 11, 2013, 04:45:15 PM
Quote from: 870BkWht on March 11, 2013, 04:43:13 PM
Who is loading these for Mossy Oak?  Sometimes I think the claim that shot is copper plated is more of a copper splash not an actual coating. Thanks for posting the review of these shells.

It says "Federal" right on the box.  Look like the old stru shok loads to me.  I still have maybe 6 or 8 boxes of them.  Might have to cut one of each open and compare...
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: SgtUSMC on March 11, 2013, 06:20:57 PM
Just picked up 2 boxes myself at the local wally world.  With the way my gun shot lead shells this weekend, I don't know if I'll even use my Hevi shot.   I just don't see how the bird can get any "deader" with a $6 shell
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on March 11, 2013, 07:14:02 PM
HTL was/is great stuff, but at $4 a shell I felt like I was paying a premium for it.  With an increase in prices, I had already sworn off buying any more HTL.  Now, currently available $1 3" Lead shells are throwing 140 at 40.  That has to put a dent in the HTL market at some point.  Some people have even beaten my #6 Thugs 140 at 40.........with #5 Thugs no less!!!

I'm glad that an affordable shell, that's a real shooter for almost everyone who's tried it, has at long last become available.  It's outshooting the Win Sup HV loads for me.
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: Tom Foolery on March 11, 2013, 08:19:06 PM
I shot them through my 870 with a .660 Kicks and they averaged 92 @ 40yds. 

My 870 is over 100 with Win HV 3" #5's and #6's @ 40yds.


I hope they do better through my 835.
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: Yoder409 on March 11, 2013, 08:51:49 PM
Quote from: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on March 11, 2013, 07:14:02 PM
It's outshooting Win Sup HV loads for me.

Now THAT'S saying something !!!!!

The Winnie HV's have been the #1 most consistent Pb performer through all my pattern testing since they hit the scene. 
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: cajunhunter on March 11, 2013, 09:13:52 PM
Damm! I stopped at a Wal Mart today shelves were bare.
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on March 11, 2013, 09:17:36 PM
QuoteI shot them through my 870 with a .660 Kicks and they averaged 92 @ 40yds.

My 3" 870 has shot a bunch of Lead patterns similar to what you describe above, but they were with Win Sup HV.  The very best with those in my 870 was 116 with Win Sup HV #5.  90-116, considering 8-10 patterns shot, with the best performing choke.

Then I tried the #6 Thugs through 5 different chokes.  All 5 patterns were nice, and 1 was 140 in 10 at 40.  The Thugs are a better shooting load for me.  However, each gun is different, I readily admit.

Good luck. 
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: ericjames on March 11, 2013, 09:58:42 PM
Great looking patterns, Mine is doing anywhere from 155-166 with the 3.5-2-6 thugs and 2 shots with the 3.5-2-5 was 129 and 134.. I bought all 5 boxes they had at the walmart in Waynesboro, MS. I will be buying every box of these I see until I get at least 15 or so boxes stuck back
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on March 12, 2013, 06:59:50 AM
The real shame is, Wal-Mart treats this as a seasonal item.  Will Federal keep making the Thugs without the big orders coming in from Wal-Mart the remaining 75% of the year?
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: Tom Foolery on March 12, 2013, 07:14:47 AM
I have always found it amazing that a straight tube of smooth steel will vary from gun to gun on what it likes, dislikes, and choke constriction.  I owned 2 870's once, same barrel length and all, one shot #6's great and the other shot #4's good and #5's good but was terrible with #6's.


Going to try the Thugs through my 835 this weekend, it likes most everything.
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: Old Gobbler on March 12, 2013, 07:31:16 AM
It sure looks like a good pattern  :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on March 12, 2013, 09:19:08 AM
QuoteIt sure looks like a good pattern

Thanks.
Title: Re: The $1 per Shell Alternative to HTL
Post by: bowhunter84 on March 12, 2013, 10:53:41 AM
Nice patterns