ok guys i just received a custom long box i ordered a little while ago. I was super excited about this sycamore with walnut lid box. i understand how to use a short box both yelping and cutting but i just cannot get turkey out of this box. does anyone have any tips? ive asked the maker but he hasnt seemed to helpful as of yet.
There is a video of Marlin Watkins on you tube about how to run a boat Paddle You should watch
It shouldn't be much different than the short box other than a little bit longer strokes. Good luck with it,
TRKYHTR
i keep trying and i just cannot manage to get a good rollover in the yelp at all. started off by watching dan wittenburgs video.
ok so i scuffed the bottom of the paddle with some paper and re chalked it and im able to get a rollover. it just sounds way different than i am used to. it does cut like a mad man though. however i have had zero response back from the call maker which is again the most upsetting part. everything up to ordering and purchasing the call was satisfactory. then he asked me for my phone # midway through to text pics of the call. pics never showed. then one day the call just showed up no communication about it being done or on the way. starting to wonder if i should file a dispute through paypal or something since he has not gotten back to me with anything more than an insult. really blows.
I hate to hear that has happened to you. I have bought and talked to several of the call makers on this form and everyone of them has been excellent with there calls and their willingness to help me run their call.
This guy acts like I insulted him by simply saying i couldnt find the turkey in it, and then asking if he had any tips.
Its like the others stated, it works just like a short box so the sound should come very easy. I wish I could help.
Return the box and request a refund! Then find a better call maker.........
i could if he would return communication to me.
ok so he finally got back to me with tips on how to play it. and it does sound a bit better. now heads up im no expert so no judging. how do you guys think it sounds?
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Sounds like poo. I agree with tripleCboykins.
TRKYHTR
Return.
No turkey and poor transaction.
oooh that does stink. Any callmaker worth his salt would return your money or exchange the call. I hope it's not a callmaker on here.
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I'm pretty sure, no I'm very sure a long box is not played the same way as a shorty.
Every good long box I've ever laid my hands on would sound like poo if you didn't tip the lid like they are designed to do. Wondering who's long boxes all you guys are using that play just like a short box? Do they have springs in them?
Hold the box in you left hand, your thumb should be on the left side of the box, and your fingers wrap around onto the handle portion.Try opening the box up twice as far as you do with your best short box, now with your right thumb on the top side of the paddle and your fingers on the bottom tilt the lid in the direction of the stroke. To play the right side of the box tilt it left, the opposite for the left. Swing the paddle slowly to see if the pitch rolls over. It should start with a high note and carry about 1/3 of the way closed, then it should break over to the med and low part of the rasp. It's a longer box than a shorty so it will take a longer faster stroke than you used to. Neil Cost even said something in his video on playing a long box that they sound like junk close up but 50 yards away they are pure turkey. If it has a spring between the lid and box disregard all that you just read because it don't apply. Then it's not a long box in the true sense and is only a long short box.
CW
I am titlting the lid when i play it. here are the recommendations which he gave me
Ok hold the box in left hand. Hold the paddle between the index and middle fingers. Move paddle out a couple of inches ... 2 or 3 inches and with slight pressure bring paddle to you. The amount if pressure makes all the difference. If you tighten the screw do it in very small amounts... Like 1/16 turn at a time. When I finished tuning your call I tuned it without any chalk. I know it will sound as good or better with chalk. Try that...it does take a little time to get really good on it. One other thing...when you bring in the paddle towards you slightly roll the paddle with your index and middle fingers by lowering your index finger and raise middle finger like a swivel.... Only very slightly. With practice you will get the proper roll over with on smooth motion
all in all im really torn with what to do here.
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If you don't like it, send it back. Keep on the guy about it. Who made the call? If the guy is proud of his work and is a good call maker; he should have no problem with you mentioning his name on here. Help other guys out! That way we don't make the same mistake. I've bought calls from a couple guys on here so far. I'm new to turkey hunting. They guys I've dealt with so far have been very nice, helpful; and I've been more than happy with the calls I've received. They've been easy to use as well. Good luck.
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The reason I have yet to mention any names in public are because I may have received a bad call or USPS damaged it, who knows, but the fact is the seller deserves the right to make things right before being slandered. I have an email out about returning the call which is my last step before releasing info to public. I feel its only fair and the respectful way to handle the situation
-Mark
Mark,
Send it back bud. It sounds awful!!! :newmascot:
Quote from: mebe007 on March 06, 2013, 11:14:12 AM
The reason I have yet to mention any names in public are because I may have received a bad call or USPS damaged it, who knows, but the fact is the seller deserves the right to make things right before being slandered. I have an email out about returning the call which is my last step before releasing info to public. I feel its only fair and the respectful way to handle the situation
-Mark
As a fellow call maker I think this is the perfect way to handle it, wish more people think this way :happy0064:
Quote from: mebe007 on March 06, 2013, 11:14:12 AM
The reason I have yet to mention any names in public are because I may have received a bad call or USPS damaged it, who knows, but the fact is the seller deserves the right to make things right before being slandered. I have an email out about returning the call which is my last step before releasing info to public. I feel its only fair and the respectful way to handle the situation
-Mark
Excellent choice, I've never made a box in that combo. So I can't really go on the the combo. A long box should have three sound a KEe, yaw and yalp. That call ain't got any kee kee in it at all from what I heard. That would have been fire wood in my shop.
Well he offered for me to trade in for any call in his lineup, I declined and asked for a refund and he already issued it to me. So now to find someone to make me a longbox, one which i can afford would be good lol, well as long as it speaks turkey. I dont think a wittenburg or watkins is in the books at this time. Does anyone have any suggestions?
BTW everyone has been a great help and I really appreciate it.
Very good to hear. Glad it worked out. Mike Crooks, "Gobblez" here; makes a very nice long box. I have one and love it. Very easy to use and sounds amazing. He makes them in a variety of woods and most sell for around $50. His company is Spring Creek Turkey Calls. Can't go wrong IMO.
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Quote from: mebe007 on March 06, 2013, 12:19:15 PM
Well he offered for me to trade in for any call in his lineup, I declined and asked for a refund and he already issued it to me. So now to find someone to make me a longbox, one which i can afford would be good lol, well as long as it speaks turkey. I dont think a wittenburg or watkins is in the books at this time. Does anyone have any suggestions?
BTW everyone has been a great help and I really appreciate it.
I would get a Twisting Creek(McKamey) or Bob Fulcher Long box. They are both reasonable and sound great. Jeff McKamey won the long box division this year at Nashville and is a down right nice guy.
TRKYHTR
I have an email out to Bob. Talked with Jeff and unfortunately he has an 8 month waiting list so that does me no good for season. seems i got burned in more than one way as instead of being on this guys list i could have been on his. I have been talking with marlin watkins as well but his calls are a little out of my price range so i really dont know what to do here.
done been down the road you are on years before. Get on Steve Mann's list and save your dollars. It will be worth it.
Mark,
If you want a real good sounding longbox get a hold of Al at SS Custom Calls. Reasonably priced with an exceptional sound. You won't be waiting long for it either.
Beardhunter makes some of the best long boxes I have heard.....very reasonable and full of turkey.
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Quote from: letinmfly on March 06, 2013, 09:38:27 PM
Mark,
If you want a real good sounding longbox get a hold of Al at SS Custom Calls. Reasonably priced with an exceptional sound. You won't be waiting long for it either.
I agree with this as well. I should have mentioned Al and Josh with my first post.
TRKYHTR
thanks for the recomendations gentleman. currently talking with bob fulcher, larry gresser, and marlin watkins. the big thing is my season is around the corner and this other guy really burned alot of my time where i could have been on the wait list of someone else. I have talked with al at one point and he is a nice guy and just a couple hours away to boot. my question is are his boxes tapered like a normal cost or are they square. this last one i got looks like a dang 1x1
I agree with returning the call and starting over. Many great guys on here that make quality calls. Most will run them for you before you purchase. Good luck.
Quote from: mossyoakpro on March 06, 2013, 10:13:01 PM
Beardhunter makes some of the best long boxes I have heard.....very reasonable and full of turkey.
You heard right!! Russell does make some fine ones! No waiting either. Just goggle Beard Hunter Turkey Calls
Well I after many different emails from Marlin Watkins I gave him a call while I was on lunch. He played tons of calls for me and let me pick one. It feels good to be getting a call from such a nice guy and well known maker and no wait to boot. must have been my lucky day. now i will research some other call builders because we all know you cannot just have 1.
You wont be dissatisfied with this long box I guarantee it.
TRKYHTR
SS Custom Calls would be one of my first choices from what I've ran for long boxes, and I would also call Russell Beard with Beard Hunter Turkey Calls, he can play several boxes over the phone for you and let you pick one out long before you ever hold it in your hands.