Does anyone have anything to say about the down-n-dirty haint gobble? I'm thinking I buying one, just wanted to see if there were any likes/dislikes.
here's the thing. It doesn't play like any other call you've used. it doesn't sound realistic (to me) up close, but I like it better farther away. IMO, the price isn't worth it. You can spend the same amount of money on a nice tube call that will not only gobble, but do everything else.
i gobble with a legacy fatal attraction dia. call most realistic gobble once you master it
here's the thing. It doesn't play like any other call you've used. it doesn't sound realistic (to me) up close, but I like it better farther away. IMO, the price isn't worth it. You can spend the same amount of money on a nice tube call that will not only gobble, but do everything else.
What would you recommend? I have a shaker but don't really like the sound, having to use so much movement to use it, or the bulkiness.
I'd learn to use a tube call. minimal movement and can make any sound a turkey can
Just learn how to gobble on a mouth call.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iida7rNHTUE
I've tried that but fluttering my tongue on the reed makes my tongue itch. "Weird I guess"
Quote from: skos29 on February 12, 2013, 10:32:22 AM
It is a stupid call to rid gullable people of their money.
Wow... Maybe you were thinking of the squealing hen or the turkey whistle. Have you watched the video on youtube of this call? I talked to Jody at Down and Dirty and listened to him play one of the calls over the phone. If you don't hear turkey in that call, you might want to listen to some real turkeys. I heard a local guy play one of the walnut calls and one of the polycarbonate (plastic) ones. Although he quickly admitted that he hadn't been playing with them long, you could definitely hear turkey tone. The polycarbonate call actually had a better tone in his hands.
I'll never own a squealing hen call, but I have a couple of the Haint calls on the way...
I love the Haint, when I walked into the NWTF national convention last year thats the first thing I heard and when I saw that it wasnt a real turkey but a turkey call I had to have one. I spent about an hour with the call and the video and I feel like I can gobble as good as the Down n Dirty boys. Excellent call. Ive heard lots of turkeys gobble at a gobble shaker tube, to me the haint is a better locator call hands down. I havent tried to call a turkey to the gun with it yet.
The DnD guys do not sound like a turkey to me because the cadence is too fast. It does project powerfully like an Eastern/Osceola gobble. The "jake yelping" they do on it is silly. I know a couple guys who can run it with slower cadence and it sounds pretty good to me. I much prefer tube gobbles or mouth call gobbles like Joe does.
I kind of feel the same way. I think the cadence is a little too fast.
Here's my opinion. I may ruffle a few feathers with this, and if so I apologize in advance. I'm not targeting or attacking anyone with this statement, just my opinions. With that said, I think most of the people who tell you that this call is junk do so because they never learned to use it properly. I will admit, it is a challenge to blow correctly, and it's not like any other turkey call you've used before. It seems to me that some people have the ability to use it correctly, and some do not. That simple. However, if you are able to use it, you can make the most realistic, booming gobbles that can be made short of a real gobbler. I know some say the cadence is too fast, and it can be if you blow it incorrectly. You can overcome that by learning to slow your tongue flutter, but it takes a lot of practice. I bought this call shortly after it was introduced and have spent many hours with it. More than once I almost threw it in the trash, but once I figured it out, I had it. It became easy. It's just a matter of learning to use it the right way. As far as DND's theory of calling birds to the gun with it, well I'm not convinced of that. There are times I have gobbled at a bird I was working as a last resort, and there are times I have seen it work, but i wouldn't use it as my first line tactic on a gobbler. If the bird you are calling to is a sub-dominant gobbler, then gobbling at him can easily make him tuck tail and go the other direction. I believe this tactic is only useful on a dominant bird, a true boss gobbler. And even then, I don't believe it will always work. Nothing "always" works on a turkey. However, this is an outstanding locator call. I have used it many times to roost a bird, and just at daylight to locate birds. Many times I've heard a ridgeline or hardwood bottom light up with gobbling after ripping one out with the haint. So, take these words as you will, it is merely my opinion. Good luck with your choice. By the way Joe, that is some awesome gobbling on that mouth call. Not many people are capable of that with a diaphragm, I'm surely not.
I posted this in a different thread, but it still holds true....
I bought a Haint last year because I was eager to go to a more durable alternative than a shaker and was hoping to have a more flexible and realistic sound. What I found is that I should have just set my $40 on fire and thrown it out the window - would have ended up with just as much money missing from my wallet, but less frustration. The Haint was very difficult to get working and then was VERY volume sensitive. If you blow too hard on it, the think shuts down and you just get a squack vs. a gobble. Absolutely the worst purchase I've made in years.... my $0.02..
is anyone running the Hale fire the way they tell you to run the haint? with the pressurized air and tounge flutter over the tooka tika they say to use for the Hale Fire. I can get a decent mouth call gobble and I even used it to bring two birds in last year. But I cant get it very loud so its not a good locator call, I have the hale fire and wonder about the haint.
I started doing the haint way with the hale fire and really used my hands to control the sound candance, wasnt half bad after 5min.
Joe possess a true talent with that mouth call gobble, but I heard he has the trophy to prove it now too
Quote from: skos29 on February 12, 2013, 10:32:22 AM
It is a stupid call to rid gullable people of their money.
HARDEST call I've ever tried to use. Still can't get it. Knew something was up when watching their video and the guy mentions about 100 times about how easy it is to use - says on a scale of 1-10 it is about a 2. I'd say it is about a 20.
I put it on par with the dog whistle call from MAD.
I listened to every gobble call at this years NWTF Convention and to me, the Haint was the best of all of them. My friend bought one and it sounded like a wounded goose and he sold it to someone real cheap. I should have bought it. The next day, I got enough courage to try one out at DND'S booth and after several tries I figured it out. I bought one and practiced blowing it and started getting better and better on it. When I got home , I contacted Jody at DND and played it over the phone to him. He gave me a few tips on shaking the call at the end and now its sounding even better. I practice everyday with it and I must say...the more you practice the more real turkey you get out of it. To me, its a lot of fun blowing this call. I like it so much that I ordered another just in case something happens to my first one. Once you learn to blow it, its real easy. My hats off to you guys that can gobble on a mouth call. To me....thats tuff to do.
Just my 2 cents.
Later, Choke
I bought the haint last year and just about threw it out the window and i gave it another chance and am glad i did.Don't give up on it,practice,practice!
My buddy bought two of them and let me borrow one. He loves it I hate it. Honestly I cannot blow the haint but he can and sounds just like the DND guys. However, I have heard MANY real turkeys gobble from 200 plus yards to 10 yards away and I have never heard a turkey that sounds like the Haint.
I just don't hear it.
I purchased one when they first came out. I can gobble very well on a mouth call. I had never used a gobble in the field but like to try new things. Second day of Kentucky season had heard a couple birds way off and on other property. So about 9:30 I tried the haint and was answered right away way off. End of the story was I must have sounded like a Jake as that is what was responding to me. The Jake showed, 5 minutes later a long beard showed to run the Jake off. 10 minutes later I harvested a nice 3 or 4 yr old bird. He ran the Jake off and made his way to my hen decoy. I may not sound that good on it but it will carry sound a long ways. when hunting river bottoms that is what I need.
The problem with any call that is not user friendly to the general public gets this reaction. Trumpet calls, Tube Calls and even the single reed Duck call are not just "plug and play". Some can never master them or make them work. Some calls are just like musical instruments and to be fair everyone is not "musically" inclined.
Even myself who normally does not have a problem using any call found it not easy to pick it right up. They have done a good job trying to "explain" how to get the sounds they are on there video. Yet it is extremely frustrating to not even get close to the guys who have mastered the technique.
I got a Harrison Hoot call and had problems with my air flow and "grip" at first. Once I spent the Time I was able to get the hang of it and am extremely happy with the sounds I am getting now.
I think one of the most "user friendly" gobble calls is a good box. If you put rubber bands or learn how to shake the lid with your hands....... it gets the job done. I personally use a Tube because it's a call I have used for so long. ( even though I am not great at it...lol )
Most of the time when a New product is introduced and Hyped well it has a pretty good run for a couple of years. It's been my experience that hunters tend to strip down and carry less calls over time.
The Gobble is not a call we use everyday. So having a call like a Box, Mouth Call or Tube that serves more than one purpose tends to stay in our vest more. I use the Jake gobble ( and yelps) 100 times more in the spring than a Mature gobble. But on a given day....... it's that one call that works. I like to be prepared to make any and all the sounds of Turkeys make because I never know what with blow his feathers back. I am older...... so I tend to carry less calls and still get the job done.
This is really not my review on any one call. Rather than the other calls that will gobble and how many times we actually use it. For some this call will serve some well.
I just purchased one, it takes some practice..
Just like they say on the instructional videos, it is easy ONCE you figure it out.
This might sound stupid but here it goes. LOL. Best advice I can give is try to stretch the corners of your mouth back towards your ears, like trying to show all your teeth.
This pulls your tongue back, and as you blow raise your tongue toward the roof of your mouth keeping it flat ..and blow. Let the tip flutter toward the highest point in the roof of your mouth.
This will let your tongue flutter slower than putting the tip up to the roof of your mouth, close to your front teeth.
Hope this helps...........only way I can get it to sound good..
I used the haint this weekend in the woods for the first time and absolutely love it now more than ever. I had a bird gobbling and wanted to try it out. He would answer my box call and was about 200-300 yards through the timber. I gobbled back at him with the haint and immediately he answered back. I did this for the next few minutes and every time he gobbled i did, the he would gobble back again. It was an experience for sure. Im assuming he had hens because he wouldnt come to me. I wasnt in close enough range to threaten him.
After about 30 min. I yelped and had another bird, a little closer and in a different direct, answer. I know for a fact it wasnt the same bird circling around. He would gobble at every yelp , about 10 different times, so finally I gobbled back at him and he shut up and wouldnt answer anything. He obviously wasnt the dominate bird.
The next morning I was on another bird who was about 150 yard and moving away from me, dang those hens, I gobbled at him and again I was cut off. This went on for about 5 instances. However, he woulnt leave his hens and had moved across the land line so I couldnt try to get "in his personal space". The bird is still there as far as I know and plan to try again next weekend.
Just be sure he's the dominate one. Havent tried the jake gobble on any yet.
Anyways, with all this said I know if you have a dominate bird, he will answer. I absolutely LOVE THE HAINT.
Thanks to the guys at D&D for this extroadinary call.
This is my son on the Haint with a couple days practice.
It's the polycarbonate Haint, I think it sounds really good.
http://youtu.be/6mCEvFWouAs
Just got one...gonna take a bit to learn but does not seem too bad so far.
I am still trying to learn mine as well.