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Title: Good deal?
Post by: heath42 on February 07, 2013, 08:06:46 PM
Long time lurker, first time poster...
I'm literally just getting into turkey hunting and have been reading the forum trying to learn all I can.  Anyways I'm looking to buy a turkey gun and think I've decided I want a 835.  There's a used one someone is selling locally with 2 chokes (turkey and full) for $375. Ya'll think its a good deal or should I go and buy a new one at Wal Mart?
Thanks guys,
Heath
Title: Re: Good deal?
Post by: gobblingghost on February 07, 2013, 08:14:42 PM
Before you buy one of those kicking mules you need to shoot one first. I have had one for about 15 to 20 yrs.
Title: Re: Good deal?
Post by: bowhunter2k9 on February 07, 2013, 08:22:00 PM
I, being a Remington fan myself, would like to tell you the 870 is great :D. But... to answer your question, I would buy a new one at academy or walmart. the turkey edition at academy is a good price and an awesome gun at 379.99
Title: Re: Good deal?
Post by: heath42 on February 07, 2013, 08:29:08 PM
Quote from: gobblingghost on February 07, 2013, 08:14:42 PM
Before you buy one of those kicking mules you need to shoot one first. I have had one for about 15 to 20 yrs.

Haha they must be pretty bad, that's what everyone has to say!
Title: Re: Good deal?
Post by: Old Gobbler on February 07, 2013, 08:46:40 PM
$399 for a 28" at basspro - camo  NEW

http://www.basspro.com/Mossberg-535-ATS-12-Gauge-w/28-Barrel-Shotgun-Realtree-MAX4/product/10218114/
Title: Re: Good deal?
Post by: heath42 on February 07, 2013, 09:17:01 PM
Quote from: Old Gobbler on February 07, 2013, 08:46:40 PM
$399 for a 28" at basspro - camo  NEW

http://www.basspro.com/Mossberg-535-ATS-12-Gauge-w/28-Barrel-Shotgun-Realtree-MAX4/product/10218114/

Tried looking it up, but what's the main difference between the 535 and the 835, and whats your opinion on the 28" barrel?
Title: Re: Good deal?
Post by: mikejd on February 07, 2013, 09:20:17 PM
I may stir something hear. Not my intent. I personally like a shorter barrel then 28. I feel a 24 is a nice happy medium. Although I do prefer shorter. And the 835 is a nice gun and a great performer.
Title: Re: Good deal?
Post by: Old Gobbler on February 07, 2013, 11:01:01 PM
I had the 28 " barrel and the 24" inch and to be honest I liked the 28 incher better - Its only a few ounces out there but the gun would kick slightly less and not rear up so badly , plus it had a nice long sighting plane --I eventually gave that gun away to a buddy who needed a turkey gun , he loved it and killed many gobblers with it

Ill give you some advise on the recoil , when guys pattern it they tend to put only one round in the chamber / You need to load that 835 full of rounds the extra weight will soak up some kick , if the recoil pad is stiff , replace it with a soft aftermarket pad like a limbsaver or kickeez etc....  those 2 things will help alot 


the 835 has a overbored/back bored barrel that is virtually a 10 gauge bore i think its somewhere around .777  not sure -   
Title: Re: Good deal?
Post by: ryanva88 on February 07, 2013, 11:56:37 PM
I would also suggest shooting a the model of gun you are looking to buy before hand. You may discover something you like or dislike. Many people love their 835's, I love my 870... Chevy vs Ford vs Dodge. They all drive.

Buying a gun second hand is something you need to be conformable with...know who owned it and if anyone owned it before them. $375 is plenty of money to make you regret a purchase...even if it does seem like a good deal.

Think of it this way...If a new gun is more expensive, the difference you pay is a insurance policy that says the gun was never treated badly before it came to you. 

Another thought... if you ever plan to have a gun dipped in camo, its usually cheaper to buy a new gun with that feature from the get go. A minimum for a camo dip is 100 to do it yourself. 200 plus usually to get it done.

Many turkey hunters like a shorter barrel, but to me its a selling point by the gun manufacturer. Shorter barrels are nice in the close corners of the woods but rarely will an extra 4 inches be a deal breaker in my opinion. More important to me is the type of barrel. Blue barrels shine and a turkeys have keen eyesight. He could catch a glare from the gun and split. Turkeys are killed with blued barrels but many turkey hunters choose to cover them up when hunting or just have a dull matte black or painted barrel.

And lastly...just because he is including chokes...take that with a grain of salt. You will most likely (hopefully not) end up buying a good amount of turkey chokes in a quest to perfect your pattern. His choke may be the magic one, but maybe not...in fact probably not. 

All food for though, good luck in finding a great deal on a great gun. feel free to post a pic of your purchase whatever it end up being!   



Title: Re: Good deal?
Post by: BrowningGuy88 on February 08, 2013, 10:39:06 AM
For that price - I would buy a brand new one. They run between $350 and $400 new and you can pick between barrel lengths and stocks and camo patterns.
Title: Good deal?
Post by: Kcurtisjr on February 08, 2013, 10:45:11 AM
Dicks has a waterfowl/turkey combo with two barrels for 399.00

http://m.dickssportinggoods.com/shop/index.jsp?categoryId=12270521&ab=ACLN2_Link_Shotguns_TurkeyWaterfowl
Title: Re: Good deal?
Post by: davisd9 on February 08, 2013, 11:05:16 AM
Bought mine brand new at Walmart for $350 including taxes.  They do not kick that bad. 

Out the box:
(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af161/davisd9/IMG_0354.jpg)

After it is set up the way I want (also added a limbsaver, worth every penny):
(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af161/davisd9/IMG_1037.jpg)
Title: Re: Good deal?
Post by: nate12285 on February 08, 2013, 12:40:01 PM
I belive for that price, I would just go by a new one or an 870.
Title: Re: Good deal?
Post by: ILIKEHEVI-13 on February 08, 2013, 01:19:21 PM
Shannon,

Your very close.  A Moss 835 has a .775 bore. 

I would also buy a new one from wally world. 
Title: Re: Good deal?
Post by: heath42 on February 08, 2013, 01:48:55 PM
Quote from: Kcurtisjr on February 08, 2013, 10:45:11 AM
Dicks has a waterfowl/turkey combo with two barrels for 399.00

http://m.dickssportinggoods.com/shop/index.jsp?categoryId=12270521&ab=ACLN2_Link_Shotguns_TurkeyWaterfowl
Can't beat that! I appreciate all the advice, I think ya'll convinced me to go a buy a new one. I did want to go all camo if I can find one, now its time to go shopping! I'll be sure to post some pictures later on!
Title: Re: Good deal?
Post by: gobblingghost on February 08, 2013, 01:53:57 PM
The 835 doesn't kick that bad!!!!!! LOL. Turkey call magazine Nov/Dec 2003 article by Dave Henderon.
Gun                     Weight                  Load                  Recoil
Mossberg 835          7lbs 12oz              3.5" 2.25oz           60.3 ft lbs
Average 12 ga
pump                     7lbs                    3" 2oz                 43 ft lbs
458 Win Mag           12lbs                   600 gr bullet         58.1 ft lbs
Average 20 ga          7lbs                    3" 1 5/16 oz         27.2 ft lbs

The 3.5" 835 turkey load puts out 60.3 ft lbs of recoil; more than suggested load for ELEPHANTS.
Title: Good deal?
Post by: Trax on February 08, 2013, 02:36:51 PM
Recoil from my 835 is significant. Id shoot several guns first.
Title: Re: Good deal?
Post by: ctwny1 on February 08, 2013, 02:48:51 PM
If I were you I would checkout Stoeger 3500.
Title: Re: Good deal?
Post by: davisd9 on February 08, 2013, 03:12:16 PM
Quote from: gobblingghost on February 08, 2013, 01:53:57 PM
The 835 doesn't kick that bad!!!!!! LOL. Turkey call magazine Nov/Dec 2003 article by Dave Henderon.
Gun                     Weight                  Load                  Recoil
Mossberg 835          7lbs 12oz              3.5" 2.25oz           60.3 ft lbs
Average 12 ga
pump                     7lbs                    3" 2oz                 43 ft lbs
458 Win Mag           12lbs                   600 gr bullet         58.1 ft lbs
Average 20 ga          7lbs                    3" 1 5/16 oz         27.2 ft lbs

The 3.5" 835 turkey load puts out 60.3 ft lbs of recoil; more than suggested load for ELEPHANTS.

Did you also see their article on hunting with a 20 gauge?  ;)

http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,27128.0.html

Once again, to me any way, they do not kick that bad.  :)

Title: Re: Good deal?
Post by: devin4484 on February 09, 2013, 07:57:40 PM
835 at walmart you wont be dissappointed, also I've never thought about the recoil on my 835 as being terrible or unbearable.  I'm only 5'7" 135lbs too.  The gun that I think has the most recoil I own is a bolt mossberg 695 shooting 1oz copper solids that things plain kicks.
Title: Re: Good deal?
Post by: heath42 on February 11, 2013, 02:57:31 PM
I am by no means worried about the kick! Just want the best bang for my buck! (pun intended)
Title: Re: Good deal?
Post by: mac295 on February 11, 2013, 03:34:00 PM
Setting up is the biggest torture. After the third shell you can't give the rest an honest trigger pull. Lol. When I have shot at a turkey I never heard the gun go off or felt the recoil. For the price you should look around. A new one won't cost much more. Check Academy and Wal-Mart. They usually have great prices
Title: Re: Good deal?
Post by: heath42 on February 11, 2013, 03:55:36 PM
Quote from: mac295 on February 11, 2013, 03:34:00 PM
Setting up is the biggest torture. After the third shell you can't give the rest an honest trigger pull. Lol. When I have shot at a turkey I never heard the gun go off or felt the recoil. For the price you should look around. A new one won't cost much more. Check Academy and Wal-Mart. They usually have great prices
Yea that's what I figured bout to go look later tonight
Title: Good deal?
Post by: heath42 on February 23, 2013, 05:43:55 PM
Wanted to give everyone an update, finally found one in Walmart and jumped  on it. 835 w/ 24" barrel. I'm pumped!
Title: Good deal?
Post by: heath42 on February 23, 2013, 06:33:08 PM
Got it for $372 out the door too
Title: Re: Good deal?
Post by: davisd9 on February 23, 2013, 06:36:29 PM
Just like mine.  She is a killer!

What you going to run through her?  Good Luck!
Title: Good deal?
Post by: heath42 on February 23, 2013, 06:39:29 PM
More than likely the 3 1/2 hevi 13 #7 2.25. Seems like everyone recommends them
Title: Re: Good deal?
Post by: davisd9 on February 23, 2013, 06:52:01 PM
Quote from: heath42 on February 23, 2013, 06:39:29 PM
More than likely the 3 1/2 hevi 13 #7 2.25. Seems like everyone recommends them

PMed you!  Those will do great in that gun.  Deep clean the barrel.  I like 6s but those 7s will do more than enough.

Here is the article on deep cleaning.  It is all I did to mine and never worried about polishing.

http://allaboutshooting.com/article_info.php?articles_id=282&osCsid=F89TOxt4ob5ehKSFe0fd52
Title: Good deal?
Post by: heath42 on February 23, 2013, 07:04:41 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on February 23, 2013, 06:52:01 PM
Quote from: heath42 on February 23, 2013, 06:39:29 PM
More than likely the 3 1/2 hevi 13 #7 2.25. Seems like everyone recommends them

PMed you!  Those will do great in that gun.  Deep clean the barrel.  I like 6s but those 7s will do more than enough.

Here is the article on deep cleaning.  It is all I did to mine and never worried about polishing.

http://allaboutshooting.com/article_info.php?articles_id=282&osCsid=F89TOxt4ob5ehKSFe0fd52
I appreciate it man, thanks for the info!