I've been looking at some of these nice trumpet calls on here, but I'm wondering if someone can tell me where or how to learn to use one. I'm always looking for something new and fun to try.
Alan Sentell made a dvd a few years ago that you still might be able to find and it was pretty informative. Other that that I'd say pick one up and practice practice practice...
Matt...
Savduck on here did a video. I think it is in the section just below this one. I can't pull up videos on my work machine. If I could I'd post the link for ya.
Here is the video that Del did. Hope it helps.
TRKYHTR
http://s64.photobucket.com/albums/h173/dcrow77/?action=view¤t=trumpetinstruction.mp4
If I was 1/2 as good as Joe Slaton or Del Crow I would be happy !!!
Im thinking about making another more formal one, seeing as how the current one keeps coming back around.
Just watched the video... that helped quite a bit. Anybody want to throw some recommendations my way on where to get one?
You can get a great quality trumpet at a very reasonable price from a bunch of guys on here. Mero, pappy, trkyhtr, Crawdad, msharpe, gitzit69. I own trumpets from all of them.
As you move up to the more pricey trumpets. Buice, Permar, McClain, Mike Williams (MKW ), Craig Scott, Danny Wells, Cox. Are all good ones.
Quote from: savduck on December 20, 2012, 12:37:35 PM
You can get a great quality trumpet at a very reasonable price from a bunch of guys on here. Mero, pappy, trkyhtr, Crawdad, msharpe, gitzit69. I own trumpets from all of them.
As you move up to the more pricey trumpets. Buice, Permar, McClain, Mike Williams (MKW ), Craig Scott, Danny Wells, Cox. Are all good ones.
X-2 , Del is spot on here. All the above names make trumpets that you can kill turkeys with. The bottom line is you always get out of something exactly what you put into it. I ran trumpets every day until I was confident in my abillities. My favorite trumpet changes monthly, and each trumpet needs to be run in a differant way. You really need to put the work in. Good Luck !!! They are magical in the woods.....
My favorite is whichever one I have been spending time getting it right. Some will definitely match your style better, but you have to develop a style. The best advice for me was call as soft as you can call trying to make really subtle tree yelps and relax jaws and lips. Any tension will ruin the sound.
Quote from: drenalinld on December 20, 2012, 03:16:08 PM
Any tension will ruin the sound.
I have found that tightening up on the mouthpiece will raise the pitch a little on one that is on the low side.
Quote from: savduck on December 20, 2012, 12:37:35 PM
You can get a great quality trumpet at a very reasonable price from a bunch of guys on here. Mero, pappy, trkyhtr, Crawdad, msharpe, gitzit69. I own trumpets from all of them.
As you move up to the more pricey trumpets. Buice, Permar, McClain, Mike Williams (MKW ), Craig Scott, Danny Wells, Cox. Are all good ones.
If you would be willing and could find the time, I think it would be really interesting to have you put together an audio file where you run a bunch of trumpets doing the same call sequence on each, with half being from the "reasonable price" group and the other half being the more expensive ones. Don't identify them and have people guess which group each trumpet belongs to. I'd personally be very surprised if people did any better than 50/50 with guessing which trumpets belonged to which group, but if it turned out otherwise it might finally push me to add one of the more expensive trumpets to my collection. ;D
If you go to the call you tube section. There are video sound files of each and every one.
The price doesn't necessarily reflect the sound by no means. Some guys just feel their time is worth more than others. Brian Mero sells a Tom Turpin award winning trumpet design at a very reasonable cost. He could easily get way more, but he wants for his trumpets to be affordable.
My suggestion is to start out with a value priced trumpet because they may not be for you. Some guys can't run them no matter how long they have tried. I'd rather be out 75 to 125 dollars than 175 to 300
Choosing a trumpet is like choosing the right doctor.....credentials is the key. Be certain to talk to and ask the maker to run the call. This is where you will profit from purchasing fro a custom call maker. Learning how to run one after you buy one is completely up to you. This is why when calls are judged on a state or national level they are judged on "user friendly" qualities. Remember it takes practice, and not the kind that you pick up and try for an hour and quit practice, we're talking about a practice that goes till you just can't go no more....Drenalind said it right, "Some will definitely match your style better, but you have to develop a style." as a call maker can try their best to help you along, you have to make the trumpet "yours" through the style you chose to run it. I like to place the call in the left side of my mouth, some like the right and some like the center, (does this effect how the call sounds?) not really, but it does effect how comfortable you are while running it AND THAT EFFECTS HOW THE CALL WILL SOUND.
Price makes a difference too, as some hunters may shy away from the more expensive calls, just because of their pricing, but if you choose to do that, then remember to pick the call maker like you do your doctor, their credentials are important, and on this site there are several reputable and credited call makers that can make you a call to fit your need and you pocket book. Just don't be fooled by..."you get what you pay for" ... that doesn't work with calls, just don't be fooled by "so and so and so and so makes the best calls" YOU have to be the JUDGE....since you are going to invest time and money from your pocket.......
Pappy I sent you a PM
pull out your transmission dip stick, insert trumpet, pour in fluid.
Quote from: stone road turkey calls on December 21, 2012, 06:20:09 PM
pull out your transmission dip stick, insert trumpet, pour in fluid.
hahahahahaha......that may work for your trumpets there ol boy.....but at 3/32" hole on the end in the dip stick tube it's gonna take a while to fill that tranny up....lol
Quote from: pappy on December 22, 2012, 10:09:07 AM
Quote from: stone road turkey calls on December 21, 2012, 06:20:09 PM
pull out your transmission dip stick, insert trumpet, pour in fluid.
hahahahahaha......that may work for your trumpets there ol boy.....but at 3/32" hole on the end in the dip stick tube it's gonna take a while to fill that tranny up....lol
your right that could take awhile, don't own a trumpet did not know they had such a small diameter intake.
After hearing of the success that trumpet users were having I got the itch to try one about 5-6 months ago. Let me tell ya, it ain't as easy as they make it look. It took days before I got a sound that resembled a turkey out out of one, so don't get discouraged! If you have used a wingbone in the past I think you will pick it up much quicker than I did.
After getting a few pointers on running one - I watched Dels video countless times - PRACTICE is the key! I keep my trumpets at my desk so at any time I can grab one and get some practice in. Though not my #1 call I feel comfortable enuff now that I could call in a turkey with a trumpet.
I did find that by postioning the mouthpiece at different locations on my lips I was able to find a "spot" that works best for me.
Remember the trick is to pull air "softly", you'll be surprised at what comes out.
Good luck and keep us informed.
Barry, here is my 7 year old..he was still 6 when he did this,
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h173/dcrow77/th_jacksonpermar.jpg) (http://s64.photobucket.com/albums/h173/dcrow77/?action=view¤t=jacksonpermar.mp4)
It does take much practice to use the trumpet calls or wingbone caller for that matter. I'm 62 years old, I mean young and have been huntin turks since I was about 22 years old. I have been lucky enough to have taken birds with just about any number of different turkey calls over the years from Lynch boxes and Jet slates to mouth calls(diaphram), pot calls, turtle shells slates, Neil Cost type boxes, Turpins etc. But it took me almost 1 year to get to where I felt good enough to use the trumpet caller to help lure turkeys into shooting range. I practiced nearly everyday using the trumpet call and after my ups and downs I finally figured out how to use one to call a bird to the gun. My biggest problem that I was having was trying to pull to much air and the correct finger manipulation of tonal sounds necessary to get a good 2-note yelp. In other words I was over playing the call. Most people can relate to what I'm talking about. Can I play the trumpet call Perfectly, Not Hardly, but I like what comes out of them most of the time. It's one more item that helps the hunter get his bird and sometimes that is what I enjoy most. If you learn how to correctly use a trumpet call you will find that there are not as many hunters using this type caller and I suspect that turkeys are turned on more to this sound. So far, I've called in and killed 4 longbeards using the trumpet caller and this just happened in the last several years. I now own over 20 trumpet calls from various callmakers across the country. Most any of them will call birds but some are certainly better at it than others. Who's to say which is best but I really like Billy Buice, Ralph Permar, Matt McLane, Irving Whit, Richard Hudson, Jack "Pappy" Lewis, and Brian Mero trumpets. Mike Almond makes a good hunting trumpet also. There are others that are good also so give it a try and good luck to you. Just remember to Practice Practice Practice. Sorry to be so long-winded!
Daggone Del, you had to post that to make me feel bad didn't ya. :) He'll be a trumpet master before long.
Like turkey-slayer said finger manipulation or controlling air flow is a big part of learning a trumpet
The ease of draw or pull is what makes a good trumpet great. If it won't kee or whistle then chances are it not the best of trumpets. Myself I like a harder tonal wood for the body and an Ivory mouthpiece. One of the most deadly suckon calls I have is a jenny wingbone in a Water Buffalo body. Learning to not over play the call is key. A soft true pull will help you make a wide range of sound. Most people call entirely to loud. You should be able to stand under a roost tree and call to the hens and not spook them, that how soft you can get with a good trumpet or yelper. Fall hunting will teach you a lot. If you can call a flock of hens into you then a Hot Springtime Tom is childs play. Prices, well there is an old saying "You get what you pay for and you pay for what you get". IMO but any callmaker worth their salt will be more than happy to stand behind their work and take back a call if it just doesn't suit you. Not everyone runs a call the same.
Ordered a call from pappy tonight. Can't wait to start practicing. Thanks Pappy.
Congrats on your decision. Jack makes a good trumpet for the money. it sounds great and will kill birds without breaking the bank.
We all want to see it when you get it.
Will do. I also picked up a tube call as well. He's a really good guy to have a chat with.
That little brass sleeved tube that Pappy makes is slam full of turkey.