I was watching today were they took Joe paws statue down i think its good and the NCAA should strip his wins and bowl wins since the bigging of this started and Penn state should get the death penalty just think they celebrated all those wins knowing thi was going on :OGturkeyhead:
why whats it going to prove. the statue mabey strip them of wins and tne death penalty just hurts the players and students
I'm a PA guy and FORMER PennState fan. The statue had to come down due to the fact that it represents a football coach who was involved in a child molestation cover up. The ncaa is making a ruling today but reports this morning state that the death penalty is unlikely. It will probably be something like they won't be bowl eligible for so many years. This whole thing makes me sick. I just wish paterno could've stayed alive long enough to get prosecuted himself.
And still a Penn State fan... There's no question that ole' Joe Pa could have and should have done more, reporting the incident to his supervisors was not enough and he should have gone to the state police. One thing not being talked about much nationwide, our present governor Corbet was the attorney general at the time and he in my opinion did nothing either and isn't receiving anything for his in-actions, he knew more about it than most people and also did nothing..he can't use the excuse of the investigation took 14 years!!!!!! Also, most on this site aren't aware of is the disappearance of the county DA from Centre Co who can't be found.. he disappeared and has never been heard or seen from since, I wonder if he isn't tied into this whole nightmare somehow...there's lots of question is unanswered in this shameful event... I predict lots more will come from this terrible crime and cover-up..
They slammed P State for sure.
Taking away wins from 98 to now dropped him from top ten winningest coaches.
He let his love of P State football keep him from doing the right thing by those kids and his legacy will certainly pay a price for that.
Frankinthelaurels, I also think that this investigation is not anywhere near being over. It's just such a mess. As far as being a fan of PSU, I cannot support a organization that had this type of thing going on for so many years with a total cover up from the coaches to the top of the ladder...president of PSU and maybe to the possible link to the missing of the DA.
I'm still shocked that something this horrible could be covered up for such a long period of time.
How could those involved even pretend to have a moral fibre in their soul?
If God would allow me, I would take care of Sandusky's punishment.
how did clinton not get impeached? :o
Quote from: timb on July 23, 2012, 08:07:50 PM
how did clinton not get impeached? :o
She was over 18.
yea they got hit hard for sure! but they deserved it
60 mil and no bowls for 4 years plus wins stripped not enough should have gotten DEATH PENALTY :character0029:
Quote from: sippy cup on July 23, 2012, 09:16:30 PM
60 mil and no bowls for 4 years plus wins stripped not enough should have gotten DEATH PENALTY :character0029:
I think this is going to be pretty close!
Yep turkeyslayer , you're right. It's as close to a death penalty as it can get. Oh well, the organization deserves punishment.
Quote from: sippy cup on July 23, 2012, 09:16:30 PM
60 mil and no bowls for 4 years plus wins stripped not enough should have gotten DEATH PENALTY :character0029:
In the long run, I think the punishment that they got will be worse than the death penalty. They may not get back in our life times.
Also glad to see it happen. Wish Joe was still alive to see his empire come crashing down. All for the lack of one phone call.
From a football forum I belong to.
"They didnt get the death penalty, the quick and decisive end. They got life in prison with no parole instead."
One sicko assistant coach, and some administrators should be punished to the full extent of the law. However, the part of this I have an issue with is ALL the players, coaches, students that are paying the price for this, not involved remotely to the scandal.
Maybe I am in the minority, but I think the NCAA way overstepped their bounds. They can't even get the student athlete part right, and now they are delving into criminal investigations and prosecution?
How did they overstep their bounds? They hid this and covered it up for years just to save the face of their football program, period......it should have received the death penalty. Joe knew all to well what was going on and did nothing, all he cared about was what this would do to tarnish his legacy and team......screw em'
Quote from: ccleroy on July 24, 2012, 09:14:13 AM
How did they overstep their bounds? They hid this and covered it up for years just to save the face of their football program, period......it should have received the death penalty. Joe knew all to well what was going on and did nothing, all he cared about was what this would do to tarnish his legacy and team......screw em'
You do realize by holding everyone responsible for what sicko's do, that does include the mfg of firearms. Who is responsible for the Colorado shooting, the sicko or the people who made the guns realizing that some wacko somewhere was going to use them to kill innocent people. It USE to be they punished the guilty, but now we are looking to punish everyone remotely part of what happened, even if it involves millions of innocent people.
Jay, so they shouldn't punish the Joker because it may also have an effect on his family. They are not trying to punish the one who created peckers. Can't see any way to take down his legecy without injury to some innocent.
respectfully,
Larry
this was meant to be about Penn state not colorado or gun control real big difference
Quote from: sippy cup on July 24, 2012, 03:43:10 PM
this was meant to be about Penn state not colorado or gun control real big difference
I thought I was clear on this. The danger of what is going on the last 25 years is the tendency to go after not just the people involved in a felony, but anyone else they can that are even remotely involved, including even the innocent. Do all the people involved with Penn State really deserve what's going on because of the screwed up leadership? Did any of the athletes on that football program have anything to do with what went down there. What violations did they commit? Do the Boy Scouts deserve to be sued because there have been some pedophile leaders? Should guns be taken away because of more wackos killing people with them? I'm more comfortable with how it use to be, when we just went after the felons, and not who SOMEONE feels should be held responsible besides them. That gets a little crazy, and it is the same reaction that puts us in jepardy of losing our guns.
i did hear on espn radio that 60 million is the revenue of 2,i mean 2 home football games.im a penn state hater from years ago.i feel bad for the new coach and the kids and there familys that were recruited from him.i feel worse about the victims and there familys in this mess.ncaa is some tuff azzzz's,there lucky to have only got what they got.
I think we should shut down all the catholic churches because of a couple priests. PSU should be punished , but punish the people who did it. Corbett knew about this in 98 the same as the board of trustess, and he did nothing ,to interrested in the governer job , The DA at the time said there wasn't enough evidence to prosacute , and then he disapeared. DON't get me wrong, IF there was a cover up people should be punished, but taking twenty scholrships away for four years just robbed twenty students of a good education ,and if I could tell you what I think should be done to Sandusky and his wife , you can't convince me she didn't know.
i agree its a rough one.
I agree that this is a tuff one. The whole basis for this punishment is to hurt the organization. Players with scholarships are allowed to transfer, and psu scholarship players will be swept up. As far as the 20 minus scholarships a year:::: if you're a highschool football player and are being looked at by psu, you have many other division one schools looking at you too. So these players have many other options, just not psu. The money is nothing, just 1 year revenue. The thing that is getting to the diehards of psu is the wiping out of paternos wins. And taking his name off everything and taking his statue down. Me... I could care less about psu anymore, I think this was so bad that the ncaa should've shut down all sports at the college just because of the wide spread corruption involved in this one instance. I mean the darn president of the university knew about it! How much worse can it get.? Who knows how deep this really goes. I don't think this is over by a long shot.
What gets me is what those guys get paid to make the right decisions, and this was the route they went? You've got to be kidding. If they would have hung the aho out to dry from the start, they would have been fine. Pedophiles lurk everywhere, so handling this correctly wouldn't have brought bad publicity to the University, just the opposite. It was the same route the Vatican took on the coverup on the bad priests, and that went well ::)