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Title: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: tjh24 on March 01, 2011, 04:40:54 PM
I just finished reading that book and I found it extremely interesting, helpful and just over all a well written book on turkey behavior.  Throughout the book the Joe Hutto (author) stress the curiousity of the birds.  They see pretty much everything and have to check it out, whether it be trash, old cans, shoes whatever. Turkeys are one with thier environment and want to know everything about where they live.  With that being said, here is my question-

I remember reading somewhere (not sure if it was here, a magazine or somewhere else)  about an old southern man who did not use a decoy only something placed in the field where the turkeys came.  (i cant remember for sure what he used, but a green stuffed animal comes to mind)  He would place it in the field and the birds would see and be stand-offish for a while, but thier curiosity finally got the best of them and they would come investigate.  Anyone remember a thread about this or is there any truth to this??

Title: Re: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: shootumindaface on March 01, 2011, 04:42:12 PM
I read it too somewhere.. It was a Kermit Dee Frog doll
Title: Re: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: R AJ on March 01, 2011, 04:51:55 PM
Bad to the bone.  Kermit the Frog doll--the green one. :TooFunny: :z-guntootsmiley:
Title: Re: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: LX_Trkyhntr on March 01, 2011, 05:08:44 PM
I am still reading it, but when I got to the part about how curious they are I thought of the same thread!
Title: Re: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: Preacher on March 01, 2011, 05:14:00 PM
I read in a book one time that you could get naked and crawl backwards up to any gobbler in the woods .   But that dont work,  ants to bad around here.
Title: Re: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: Hognutz on March 01, 2011, 05:38:49 PM
Quote from: Preacher on March 01, 2011, 05:14:00 PM
I read in a book one time that you could get naked and crawl backwards up to any gobbler in the woods .   But that dont work,  ants to bad around here.
Are you tellin' me that's not how you do it? I can keep my britches on? Geez.. :fud:
Title: Re: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: redarrow on March 01, 2011, 06:01:13 PM
Quote from: Preacher on March 01, 2011, 05:14:00 PM
I read in a book one time that you could get naked and crawl backwards up to any gobbler in the woods .   But that dont work,  ants to bad around here.
I would actually pay to see that.
Title: Re: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: shad309 on March 01, 2011, 06:03:29 PM
i thought it was a green Cletus.........  :TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
Title: Re: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: hookedspur on March 01, 2011, 06:51:41 PM
Quote from: Preacher on March 01, 2011, 05:14:00 PM
I read in a book one time that you could get naked and crawl backwards up to any gobbler in the woods .   But that dont work,  ants to bad around here.
NO NO NO NO NO NO
Title: Re: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: guesswho on March 01, 2011, 06:53:50 PM
Quote from: redarrow on March 01, 2011, 06:01:13 PM
Quote from: Preacher on March 01, 2011, 05:14:00 PM
I read in a book one time that you could get naked and crawl backwards up to any gobbler in the woods .   But that dont work,  ants to bad around here.
I would actually pay to see that.
How much?
Title: Re: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: turkey slayer on March 01, 2011, 07:36:05 PM
Quote from: guesswho on March 01, 2011, 06:53:50 PM
Quote from: redarrow on March 01, 2011, 06:01:13 PM
Quote from: Preacher on March 01, 2011, 05:14:00 PM
I read in a book one time that you could get naked and crawl backwards up to any gobbler in the woods .   But that dont work,  ants to bad around here.
I would actually pay to see that.
How much?
:popcorn: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
Title: Re: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: chatterbox on March 01, 2011, 07:52:02 PM
Quote from: guesswho on March 01, 2011, 06:53:50 PM
Quote from: redarrow on March 01, 2011, 06:01:13 PM
Quote from: Preacher on March 01, 2011, 05:14:00 PM
I read in a book one time that you could get naked and crawl backwards up to any gobbler in the woods .   But that dont work,  ants to bad around here.
I would actually pay to see that.
How much?
:TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
Title: Re: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: Preacher on March 01, 2011, 08:05:43 PM
Its a sight to behold, worth paying for,   and you might be surprized where and what areas ants target,     :popcorn:
Title: Re: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: Preacher on March 01, 2011, 08:12:03 PM
Hey tjh24 sorry to highjack your post,  you asked a serious turkey hunting question and started poking fun,  but I really did read that , again sorry about that.
Title: Re: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: tjh24 on March 02, 2011, 06:47:47 AM
Preacher-
No problem, just curious if anyone has any info.
Title: Re: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: wvboy on March 02, 2011, 04:28:26 PM
Quote from: Preacher on March 01, 2011, 05:14:00 PM
I read in a book one time that you could get naked and crawl backwards up to any gobbler in the woods .   But that dont work,  ants to bad around here.

That was in "The Old Pro Turkey Hunter" by Nunnery .. Probably my favorite book of all time on Turkey Hunting.. I have yet to read this one though..

I am pretty sure I have read in Tom Kelly's writings that "Turkey's dont have a curious bone in their body"  It might have been somewhere else though.. so it depends on what you believe I guess.. I have heard that Hutto knows what he is talking about though..
Title: Re: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: tjh24 on March 02, 2011, 06:11:08 PM
Am I the only one that remembers that?   Somebody out there has to remember it or know something about it

Title: Re: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: LX_Trkyhntr on March 03, 2011, 09:48:02 AM
Quote from: tjh24 on March 02, 2011, 06:11:08 PM
Am I the only one that remembers that?   Somebody out there has to remember it or know something about it


Quote from: LX_Trkyhntr on March 01, 2011, 05:08:44 PM
I am still reading it, but when I got to the part about how curious they are I thought of the same thread!

Did you miss my reply?  I remember that thread, it was kind of a funny story.  Seems to me there was a guy that went out with a farm hand or something like that, whom always killed turkeys.  They went out one morning and the guy threw a stuffed animal or something in the field and just waited until the turkeys walked up to check it out.
Title: Re: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: LX_Trkyhntr on March 03, 2011, 09:49:12 AM
Quote from: Preacher on March 01, 2011, 05:14:00 PM
I read in a book one time that you could get naked and crawl backwards up to any gobbler in the woods .   But that dont work,  ants to bad around here.

I am going to be hunting with Preacher 3 weeks from today(if the Good Lord's willing).....WHAT HAVE I GOTTEN MYSELF INTO??????? :TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
Title: Re: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: tjh24 on March 03, 2011, 11:49:33 AM
Hey LX-   sorry about that,   I did see your post.  Jus curious if anyone e.lse remembers it or ever tried it


Title: Re: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: LX_Trkyhntr on March 03, 2011, 04:21:15 PM
No worries.  I just finished the book a few minutes ago.  There were several intersting things that were brought up in the book that I hadn't thought about.  We really are entering their world and need to take every precaution to not stick out!  It was also interesting to see how they dealt with predators and such.

I could have done without all of his ramblings that weren't dealing with the turkeys, but that's just my own personal opinion.  All of the stuff dealing directly with the turkeys I thought was very interesting.
Title: Re: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: tjh24 on March 03, 2011, 04:41:22 PM
I agree about the ramblings, I kinda skipped over those parts.  I thought it was interesting about how the birds got mad at things hiding from them.
     I was wondering how big the area was that Joe took the birds, if thier travel range was as big as what native birds would travel.  I know the birds where I am at can travel quite a bit.  I wonder if native birds know thier territory as well as the birds in the book.  Just curious, this book has made me think of a lot of questions about turkeys.
Title: Re: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: LX_Trkyhntr on March 03, 2011, 05:33:48 PM
I did the same thing, when I could tell he was rambling I looked for the point to where it was back to talking about turkeys.

I don't think his birds ranged as far as pure wild birds due to the fact that they came back to the same roost each day.   

I think it was a very intersting study that he did, but a lot of what happened reinforced the fact that wild animals do not make good pets.

One of the main questions I have is this.....How the heck did he make a living while living with these animals?  Was he working from some grant?  Can I get a grant to do a turkey HUNTING study? ??? :you_rock:
Title: Re: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: tjh24 on March 04, 2011, 06:47:32 AM
Yeah, I dont think you could have a career and do the study like he did. I have no idea how he did it. He would spend basically dark to dark with the birds til they left.   He said that he did turkey hunt at one point, I wonder if he would after that experience.  Having such a close relationship with the birds would probably make it tough to kill them.
Title: Re: Finished reading "lllumination of the flatwoods" and Have a question
Post by: Duke0002 on March 04, 2011, 01:06:29 PM
I saw/read somewhere where a fella put a red/white/blue Pepsi can on a stick and drew gobblers.