65% humidity about 70 degrees...at least 454 in 10" circle at 38 yds...my friend had to put a target together so some pellets probably went thru the cracks. Some shot was touching one another in photo....wad was perfectly intact. Thanks Hal!
Geez.... That is going to be brutal when it connects with a bird.
Wow! We can't shoot anything smaller than 7's in MO.
That's alot of bb's!
Awesome pattern! :icon_thumright:
I wonder what kind of energy does that load have at 40 yards?
All I can say on this board is that they will most all EXIT a turkey's head at 40....they are brutal. I have seen it. These are 18 g/cc 9s not lead 9s....they compare to a lead 4 but potentially out penetrate because no deformation ...the real advantage I see for this shot is helping kids with their .410 and .20 gauge setups
It's his 2.25 oz 9 load. My philosophy with it is either it's a miss or a kill but hardly can be in between. I agree with u that it's is super tight...but have had a bad experience guiding a friend at 36-39 yards this year with someone who didn't pattern their gun. They had a great pattern with magnum blend didnt know their point of aim and shot low. Has happened to me more than once and I want a "finish gun" for a situation like that on a crippled bird. I hate seeing a crippled animal period and desire to never face that again. I love to Bowhunt turkeys and love getting them in close....and figure with a setup like this... It's a miss or a kill and if Wiley coyote comes in or a hog... He's dead too with the right placement...this is a buddies setup and I am shooting a .670 with a killing 20 inch as well. Pm me...I'd like to hear about how u like the 2 oz.
Well I am a newbie to using the 9s. ...so I am listening y'all ...I have a .680 mad max that I may try....
Quote from: kevind on May 17, 2012, 08:40:22 AM
Well I am a newbie to using the 9s. ...so I am listening y'all ...I have a .680 mad max that I may try....
How many shells did you test? I've shot that 2.25oz load from Hal and actually got higher #'s than that with one shell but most of the shots were in the 360 range. I'm not exactly sure why that one particular shell patterned as tight as it did because it was loaded just like the rest. I'd be surprised if all your shells patterned that tightly...
Well we threw 427, 454, and an upwards 450+ in three different chokes/guns. I tried a .680 mad max in my BPS and it was the tightest yet and couldn't even count them properly. :OGturkeyhead: Soooooo ....to open it up in my gun it will take .690 range hah
unbelievable pattern
no bird will live through that
Awesome pattern. I'd like to see what it would do at a taped 50. As we all know some shots are often farther than you think. A shot over 40yds is common and it woul be good to know your patterns effectiveness out to 50.
Quote from: SLAYER on June 05, 2012, 11:06:45 AM
Awesome pattern. I'd like to see what it would do at a taped 50. As we all know some shots are often farther than you think. A shot over 40yds is common and it woul be good to know your patterns effectiveness out to 50.
Not on OG. Shannon doesn't allow talk of over 40 yards. This policy is explained in the THOU SHALL sticky.
Quote from: Daman on June 05, 2012, 12:06:25 PM
Quote from: SLAYER on June 05, 2012, 11:06:45 AM
Awesome pattern. I'd like to see what it would do at a taped 50. As we all know some shots are often farther than you think. A shot over 40yds is common and it woul be good to know your patterns effectiveness out to 50.
Not on OG. Shannon doesn't allow talk of over 40 yards. This policy is explained in the THOU SHALL sticky.
Just shoot it at 50yds & call it 40 ! :icon_thumright:
Quote from: vaturkey on June 05, 2012, 09:58:38 PM
Quote from: Daman on June 05, 2012, 12:06:25 PM
Quote from: SLAYER on June 05, 2012, 11:06:45 AM
Awesome pattern. I'd like to see what it would do at a taped 50. As we all know some shots are often farther than you think. A shot over 40yds is common and it woul be good to know your patterns effectiveness out to 50.
Not on OG. Shannon doesn't allow talk of over 40 yards. This policy is explained in the THOU SHALL sticky.
Just shoot it at 50yds & call it 40 ! :icon_thumright:
Amen, vaturkey!
Quote from: Spuriosity on May 17, 2012, 07:56:56 AM
Quote from: JohnDoe on May 16, 2012, 11:52:02 PM
Kevin
What load is that. 454 is way too tight for most of Hal's loads. I shoot the 2oz #9s and 335 is as tight as I dare. You may need to open it up a bit by going .670-.675.
John
I've got to agree, way too tight for me, finishing gun or whatever. Finishing birds often means moving birds. It's a lot easier to hit a moving bird with a solid 20" pattern than it is a 10" pattern. To me, that is the beauty of TSS. Certainly, the core will hold together way out there, but there is enough shot to saturate the 20" as well. I'd be looking at .675-.690.
I agree