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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Turkey Guns => Topic started by: TauntoHawk on May 14, 2012, 03:26:20 PM

Title: if you were to build a new turkey gun?
Post by: TauntoHawk on May 14, 2012, 03:26:20 PM
Alright guys semi - hypothetical question.I want to build another turkey gun, it will only be used for turkey but it will be used by a verity of people. So simple and versatile is the name of the game. You have a rough $1000 budget but under budget is never a bad thing. Budget includes shotgun, sling, choke, stock or recoil pads, and sight

Key wants
excepts 3.5" shells
has a 24" or shorter barrel
has to have some type of thumbhole or pistol grip stock
semi is a plus but not ruling out pumps
will have some type of reddot maybe a scope mounted on it

I talked to a stoeger rep about the new M3500 last week, he said production is really behind and it might be a while til they finish offering all options for the 3500. I was calling to ask about a steady grip and 24" barrel on the 3500 which the rep said will be done and offered around 700 MSRP but it could be a year til they begin production maybe even a little more. I really think this is the shotgun I want to add but if there's a chance it doesn't make it out by next season I need to start looking at other options.

Title: Re: if you were to build a new turkey gun?
Post by: dirt road ninja on May 14, 2012, 03:59:49 PM
If your going new. I'd think you can get the pistol grip 935 for about 650.00 and it has a 22" barrel. She comes drilled and tapped from the factory. Chokes can be had for +/- 60.00 That would leave you just under 300.00 for optics.

You could put together just about any pump gun for a lot less than 1000.00 I've been on the look out for a 935. Good luck.
Title: Re: Re: if you were to build a new turkey gun?
Post by: SammyC on May 14, 2012, 07:32:06 PM
X2 on the Mossberg.  I would suggest something like the turkey thugs as it has the m4 style adjustable stock and can be fired easily either handed.  That's my only complaint about my 835 is the thumbhole makes it hard to fire left handed if necessary...
Title: Re: if you were to build a new turkey gun?
Post by: BrowningGuy88 on May 14, 2012, 09:10:48 PM
I am building two now. Whichever one I like best stays and the other goes. I am way over budget though...

For your budget, I would go with a Mossy 935 Pistol Grip and drop on burris fast fire or mueller red dot. Add a SumToy choke and some Hevi or Xtended Range 6's and kill turkeys!!!
Title: Re: if you were to build a new turkey gun?
Post by: bird on May 14, 2012, 09:13:04 PM
Quote from: slickyboyboo on May 14, 2012, 08:11:48 PM
Rem 870, SPS syn fore grip, Knoxx specops stock, turkey choke of your choice, claw sling, Burris FF III, 336 mount. All that and a nice Camo dip job should come in just under budget.


Exactly and let me add, friends don't let friends shoot Mossbergs!
Title: Re: if you were to build a new turkey gun?
Post by: TauntoHawk on May 14, 2012, 10:02:17 PM
I've actually never handled a mossberg, I've always had 870s and have used a few 11-87s for geese and a stoeger M2000 once.

My current set up is a 870 espress 21 barrel, sumtoy chock, sureshot stock, and Fast Fire II I love it and its an awesome turkey rig but I'd like to have 2 for when I take people.

might look around for a used 11-87 this summer
Title: Re: if you were to build a new turkey gun?
Post by: duckaholic25 on May 15, 2012, 08:20:14 AM
I have a buddy who has a 870 with the specops stock and he dosent like it at all. Says it kicks him worse than regular stocks.
Title: Re: if you were to build a new turkey gun?
Post by: bird on May 15, 2012, 08:36:18 AM
Quote from: duckaholic25 on May 15, 2012, 08:20:14 AM
I have a buddy who has a 870 with the specops stock and he dosent like it at all. Says it kicks him worse than regular stocks.

He probably isn't holding it properly in that seat of his shoulder.  I have a SPECOPS Knoxx stock on my 870SM and this gun is freaking awesome and I wouldn't consider any gun over this one no matter the cost or brand.
Title: Re: if you were to build a new turkey gun?
Post by: Wingbone on May 15, 2012, 08:44:53 AM
Quote from: duckaholic25 on May 15, 2012, 08:20:14 AM
I have a buddy who has a 870 with the specops stock and he dosent like it at all. Says it kicks him worse than regular stocks.

Wow, that's odd. One came on my Max Gobbler and it has the recoil of an air rifle. You sure he has the Recoil Reduction system in his Spec Ops stock? I think they sell two versions and one of them has no springs or inernal recoil management.
Title: Re: if you were to build a new turkey gun?
Post by: chaz_Z7 on May 15, 2012, 10:26:19 AM
remington 870 sps shurshot synthetic turkey///got mine at buds gun shop for 530 mounted a nikon turkey pro on it for 179 $ and chokes well it jus depends 20 to 70 $
Title: Re: if you were to build a new turkey gun?
Post by: TauntoHawk on May 15, 2012, 10:41:44 AM
let me pose another question in the mix.... How important is a 3.5" gun, how many of you are still just shooting 3" shells

the option would be nice but Im still going to be using 3" shells in my 870 and that thing flat out shoots.. and Ive seen several people mention that the 3's actually pattern tighter for some

so is a few extra in the 20 worth paying extra for a gun tho shoot them and extra on the shells since 3" are a few bucks less per box

Title: Re: if you were to build a new turkey gun?
Post by: TauntoHawk on May 15, 2012, 11:17:41 AM
thanks Grizz thats kinda how I was feeling..

I dont feel impared by my 3" gun but it sure would be nice..
Title: Re: if you were to build a new turkey gun?
Post by: Wingbone on May 15, 2012, 11:47:18 AM
Quote from: Bad Grizzly on May 15, 2012, 10:03:34 AM
Quote from: AngryBird on May 15, 2012, 08:36:18 AM
Quote from: duckaholic25 on May 15, 2012, 08:20:14 AM
I have a buddy who has a 870 with the specops stock and he dosent like it at all. Says it kicks him worse than regular stocks.

He probably isn't holding it properly in that seat of his shoulder.  I have a SPECOPS Knoxx stock on my 870SM and this gun is freaking awesome and I wouldn't consider any gun over this one no matter the cost or brand.



Quote from: Wingbone on May 15, 2012, 08:44:53 AM
Quote from: duckaholic25 on May 15, 2012, 08:20:14 AM
I have a buddy who has a 870 with the specops stock and he dosent like it at all. Says it kicks him worse than regular stocks.

Wow, that's odd. One came on my Max Gobbler and it has the recoil of an air rifle. You sure he has the Recoil Reduction system in his Spec Ops stock? I think they sell two versions and one of them has no springs or inernal recoil management.



It doesn't seem to matter how I hold mine.... how tight, how relaxed.... I agree with the statement of it kicks worse.... and the gun is a Max Gobbler as well..... Seems more to the point of TOO springy..... the forearm jumps out of my hand nearly every time..... completely ejects the shell as well..... I enjoy shooting my regular, thumbhole, or shur-shot stocks much more.



Well, in that case, I wouldn't like it either. I haven't had any experiences with mine like that other than when I had it in a vise to sight in the reddot. I only shoot 3" shells out of mine, don't know if that makes the difference or not.  You can't go wrong with any of the Shur Shot guns though. I love mine as well.
Title: Re: if you were to build a new turkey gun?
Post by: TauntoHawk on May 15, 2012, 11:50:09 AM
and the main reason I want semi over pump is the reduced recoil, I want my wife or a youth hunter to be able to handle it.

and I figured by the time I put a recoil stock on a pump for $150 im getting close to the price of a semi anyways
Title: Re: if you were to build a new turkey gun?
Post by: grousec on May 15, 2012, 12:06:12 PM
Go with a semi.  I went the pump route and didn't like it.  Now shoot a 935 pistol Grip Turkey and I sure love it.  You can do one under your budget..
Title: Re: if you were to build a new turkey gun?
Post by: TauntoHawk on May 17, 2012, 10:59:38 AM
I was able to get to a small local gun shop and get my hands on just a few shotguns to see how they felt.

First impressions were, hated the turkey thug edition Mossberg, didn't like the Nova either, Remington SM felt right at home because all I've ever used is an 870 but not sure I want another of the same. The 935 wasn't bad, I didn't fall in love but I didn't hate it either. Think I'd need to try it with a pistol grip to make a final call on that one but the price on those are hard to ignore I could get an Eotech for the money id save compared to others. Loved the benelli SB II it felt awesome but the price tag would be a tough one to swallowing no matter how much I love turkey hunting. I still would like to get my hands on a stoeger and see how it feels compared between the 935 and SB II.

I might just wait it out and see if Stoeger comes through with the turkey edition of the 3500 before next season.

Im still unsure if I will move my fast fire II from my 870 to the new gun and put a slightly cheaper red dot on the 870 like a vortex strikefire or Mueller quickshot. Put another Fast Fire either II or III on the new gun and have two of them. Or go with my dream and get the Eotech. All that will probably be dependent on how much I spend on the gun.
Title: Re: if you were to build a new turkey gun?
Post by: 3Toes on May 22, 2012, 02:46:36 PM
I have an 870, a Charles Daly, a Winchester 1300, and a new 935. I would not trade the Mossy for the other three any day. It cycles any load I have tried and patterns better than any gun I have owned. My second choice would be the old 870.