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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Lead Shooters Section => Topic started by: noggin buster on May 05, 2012, 08:27:17 PM

Poll
Question: How many are breaking 100 hits in a 10'' at 40yards WITH LEAD?
Option 1: 70-90 votes: 6
Option 2: 90-110 votes: 13
Option 3: 110-120 votes: 10
Option 4: 120-130 votes: 10
Option 5: 130-150 votes: 20
Title: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: noggin buster on May 05, 2012, 08:27:17 PM
So how many are breaking the magic 100 at 40yards in a 10 inch circle with lead?  I can not find a load that with break 100 consistently.  Barrel has been deep cleaned!  Please vote
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: albrubacker on May 05, 2012, 09:42:59 PM
Will vote tomorrow. Trying some new chokes
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: jtg88 on May 05, 2012, 10:45:40 PM
I've gotten Win XX 3-2-6's to throw 120-130 at 40 before but for whatever reason the Win XX 3.5-2.25-6 is terrible only putting 75 pellets in the 10 at 40.
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: snapper1982 on May 06, 2012, 10:44:08 AM
shooting remington super mag 28 inch barrel with a .660 indian creek and the old federal(pre fcw wad) 3.5/2/6 getting average 127 without a clean or polished barrel.

i had an 870 sps-t with a 23 inch barrel and an original mad max shooting federal fcw 3.5/2/6 getting an average of 132
fcw 3.5/2/5 getting an average of 119
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: stinkpickle on May 06, 2012, 09:17:07 PM
I cheat by using 3-2-7.5's.   ;)
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: Kylongspur88 on May 06, 2012, 11:10:38 PM
Winn Hv 6's and a tight choke is a good place to start.
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: tha bugman on May 07, 2012, 11:46:34 AM
sorry my response needs to be changed to 80 not 100 at 40
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on May 07, 2012, 02:57:09 PM
My best ever 40 Yard number with a Lead shell, is 131 in 10" at 40 Yards with a 3" Win Sup HV 1.75 Oz. #5 Lead shell, in a 28" BPS with an Indian Creek BDS SS .665 INV+ choke.

I got 170 in 10" at 35 Yards with a PMC 2 Oz. #6 Copperplated Lead shell, and the same gun and choke as above.  This was a perfect hunting pattern at 35 Yards.  It had all the bases covered.  These shells aren't made any more, and I only had a few, so I didn't "waste" another at 40 Yards.
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: surehuntsalot on May 07, 2012, 04:18:14 PM
over 100 with either Federal or Winchester #6's in my 835 with the stardot or .679 Gobblestopper
over 100 with either Federal or Winchester #5's in the 835 with the same chokes
80-90  with #4's in the 835 with the factory full choke(.710)
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on May 08, 2012, 08:00:28 PM
Only rounds my thumbhole 835 will shoot UNDER 100 at 40 (5's or 6's) with is the newer Remington loads...any of them.  The old Premier all green 2 1/4 ounce rounds would shoot great.  The Federals (old Trip+ wad loads) shoot amazing in the 2 ounce 6's, shooting and avg of high 140's and a best of 159 in the 10" with almost perfect eveness every shot. 
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: budtripp on May 09, 2012, 02:31:05 AM
My SBE2 with a kicks .655 I get 96 with 3" win hv 5's and around 111 with the hv 3.5" 6's at 40 yds. Make that hevi 6's though and the numbers double  :you_rock:
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: albrubacker on May 09, 2012, 04:52:18 PM
Quote from: slickyboyboo on May 09, 2012, 04:11:13 PM
I would vote, but there isn't a choice for 150+.  ;D
For Lead?
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on May 09, 2012, 06:13:43 PM
Quote from: albrubacker on May 09, 2012, 04:52:18 PM
Quote from: slickyboyboo on May 09, 2012, 04:11:13 PM
I would vote, but there isn't a choice for 150+.  ;D
For Lead?

Oh hecks yes!  I consistantly make high 140's, low 150's.  I have seen better and don't doubt for a second Surehuntsalot's combo will do as he said.  I haven't tinkered a ton with lead in 6 or 7 years with all the HTL shot out but with as much of the old Fed. stuff and Win. Supremes I bought this spring, I'm definetley gonna start back up again.  I am confident I'll break a high 150's-low/mid 160's  avg in two of my 4 dedicated turkey guns.
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: albrubacker on May 09, 2012, 08:59:23 PM
 :
Quote from: slickyboyboo on May 09, 2012, 05:49:41 PM
Yep, and doing consistent mid to upper 150s with 1 7/8 oz of # 5.5s in a 3" shell, through my Ruger Red Label/Comp-N-Choke .665. I need to try some #6s.
Awesome!!  :you_rock:
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: Gooserbat on May 15, 2012, 02:24:14 AM
I run in the 120+ range with my old Balistic Specialties unported .655 and 110+ with my .658 Sumtoy.
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: mikejd on May 15, 2012, 09:42:08 PM
I got 84 in a 10 at 40 with winchester hv #4's this weekend. First shot and I didnt compare to any other lead shot that was 3- 13/4oz-4.
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: Fastcat on May 16, 2012, 07:51:14 AM
My best led patterns are mid 120s with an older 835 with a pure gold choke shooting 3.5 inch winchester #5s. Hope to better that with with my bps 10 and #4s.
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: surehuntsalot on May 16, 2012, 08:56:31 PM
Remington 1100 3" magnum  30" .690 fixed full choke barrel
160 hits     3" Win.XX (red) 2oz #6
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/sr5865/S4021413.jpg)
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: bigredneck61088 on May 24, 2012, 05:16:21 PM
best of the day for me was 128, lowest was 110 out of a Winchester SX2 NWTF 24 inch barrel with winchester 3 1/2 supreme 5s, Indian Creek.665
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: TrackeySauresRex on May 25, 2012, 05:44:44 PM
I just looked at some of my targets from early Spring. I did some shootin one day with some shells I had layin around.

Ol Moss 835 3-½" Kicks 680.
Old federals #5's
159 in a 10 @40

Same gun J.H 690.
Old feds again
140

Kicks 680.
Win's HV. 6's
188

Don't no what order I shot them in. I started clean,real clean and I brushed the barrel between shots. I'm shootin M.B now there to expensive to pattern,but I know they pattern well.
;D
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: fletchy on May 26, 2012, 06:19:38 PM
Didnt know there was a 5.5?
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: TrackeySauresRex on May 27, 2012, 12:37:56 PM
Quote from: fletchy on May 26, 2012, 06:19:38 PM
Didnt know there was a 5.5?

What is a 5.5? I don't no either.
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on June 29, 2012, 05:00:05 AM
He buys the #5.5 pellets in bulk and reloads the shells himself.
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: R AJ on June 30, 2012, 12:46:06 PM
I am most certain that this is pertaining to the 12 gauge only for the 40 yard shot. Using # 6 lead in the 20 gauge a few years ago with H-13 , a 120 in the 10 was pretty awesome, with high 80s - 90s accepted.
There have been umpteen choke designs since then and they have for the most part all been designed around the HTL shot versions and rightly so as the HTL in a 20 makes for an incredibly versatile shotgun with 30 -35 lbs recoil vs. 67lbs on the 3.5 " "canons" especially with 1 1/4-1 1/2 oz. shot loads.

However, for those who are hunting thick woods, using decoys set up 20 yards away and such the 20 gauge lead load does a very ample job of taking birds home from 20-30 yards and even 35 yards is a pretty sure thing for some. If you haven't tried 30 yard patterns for lead in the 20 gauge you may be very surprised at the pattern and number of shot in the 10 -15" ring. A lot of the slightly more open chokes can give impressive coverage and really help the confidence of a young or inexperienced hunter.

Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: BandedSpur on June 30, 2012, 03:22:29 PM
Quote from: RAJ on June 30, 2012, 12:46:06 PM
I am most certain that this is pertaining to the 12 gauge only for the 40 yard shot. Using # 6 lead in the 20 gauge a few years ago with H-13 , a 120 in the 10 was pretty awesome, with high 80s - 90s accepted.
There have been umpteen choke designs since then and they have for the most part all been designed around the HTL shot versions and rightly so as the HTL in a 20 makes for an incredibly versatile shotgun with 30 -35 lbs recoil vs. 67lbs on the 3.5 " "canons" especially with 1 1/4-1 1/2 oz. shot loads.

However, for those who are hunting thick woods, using decoys set up 20 yards away and such the 20 gauge lead load does a very ample job of taking birds home from 20-30 yards and even 35 yards is a pretty sure thing for some. If you haven't tried 30 yard patterns for lead in the 20 gauge you may be very surprised at the pattern and number of shot in the 10 -15" ring. A lot of the slightly more open chokes can give impressive coverage and really help the confidence of a young or inexperienced hunter.


And if you handload, 1.25 oz of buffered lead 7.5s will get it done in the 20 to 30-35 yds all day long.
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: learn2hide on July 11, 2012, 04:10:42 PM
while evaluating HTL loads I also shot a few rounds of lead.  I did get 125 in 10" at 40 yards with Federal 2 1/4oz FC Wad #5's with my Super X2 24" Turkey Gun and Rob Roberts Guworks Final Strut .660 Choke
Title: Re: Breaking 100 at 40yards WITH LEAD
Post by: jblackburn on July 13, 2012, 08:54:17 PM
My Mossberg 835 Winchester Supreme XX 3.5 inch  #6s with Mossberg XX full choke (Extended but plain) will put it in the 140s all day long. My best is 147.  I can't find the picture to prove it, but that is what it will do.  Turkey killing machine!