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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Turkey Guns => Topic started by: LBSS on April 24, 2012, 02:18:38 PM

Title: 4 gauge why not?
Post by: LBSS on April 24, 2012, 02:18:38 PM
Im talking to a custom muzzle loader builder about a sxs 4 gauge 28"barrels . Should fire about 5oz of shot
Title: Re: 4 gauge why not?
Post by: deadbuck on April 24, 2012, 02:54:50 PM
You gonna get the 17" or 18" wheels on it?
Title: Re: 4 gauge why not?
Post by: LBSS on April 24, 2012, 03:19:12 PM
 Actually the gunsmith said a easy build would be a long barreled blunderbuss percussion ignition. Might be kinda fun to own a longer version of one. Im starting to feel like the beverly hill billies lol. What was hus name uncle jed?  Didnt he use a blunderbuss
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Post by: HogBiologist on April 24, 2012, 05:00:51 PM
Would be an awsome pattern LOL.  However probably illegal in most states for hunting turkeys.
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Post by: Waddle Whacker on April 24, 2012, 07:17:47 PM
I like it! Goin' Pilgrim style on em!
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Post by: runngun on April 24, 2012, 08:15:14 PM
Boy I would hate to buy TSS or Hevi for that BIG BORE!!!
Title: Re: 4 gauge why not?
Post by: LBSS on April 24, 2012, 09:50:21 PM
Dont know if yall familiar with the english fowler pattern rifle.
thats what one muzzleloader builder wants to do.  Ive seen these big bores called called market hunter shotgun. Should be a simple gun to build. 1.050" bore diameter. Now thinking of a 58" barrel go ahead make it a 6' gun.  5oz of shot @ 1100 fps is 144 ftlbs recoil in a 15lb gun. But it should weigh 20lbsabout or so. Also its legal for turkeys here in GA.  Regulations just say nothing smaller than 20ga.

Mmm what would 5oz of hevi7s pattern like
Title: Re: 4 gauge why not?
Post by: Waddle Whacker on April 24, 2012, 10:03:12 PM
Quote from: LBSS on April 24, 2012, 09:50:21 PM
Dont know if yall familiar with the english fowler pattern rifle.
thats what one muzzleloader builder wants to do.  Ive seen these big bores called called market hunter shotgun. Should be a simple gun to build. 1.050" bore diameter. Now thinking of a 58" barrel go ahead make it a 6' gun.  5oz of shot @ 1100 fps is 144 ftlbs recoil in a 15lb gun. But it should weigh 20lbsabout or so. Also its legal for turkeys here in GA.  Regulations just say nothing smaller than 20ga.

Mmm what would 5oz of hevi7s pattern like
5 ozs of 7's would be nice, but that's only 1375 pellets. Personally, I'd go with 5 oz of TSS 9's. I guess it'd run you about $20 a shot....but it'd be worth it for almost 2,000 pellets..... I wonder what 1,000 in the 10" looks like????
Title: Re: 4 gauge why not?
Post by: LBSS on April 24, 2012, 10:29:17 PM
If you think about it the best way to make a smooth bore more effective is to make it bigger.
plus i read about colonials using 4 bore blunderbusses
Just seems right lol.

The goal is 300+lead 4#s in a 10"pattern. Id love to have this gun. It would be something worth passing down some day.  Olus during pattern sessions 14 drams of black powder is bound to get those liberal neighbors buzzing lol but atleast i live out of city limits by 20miles so its all good lol.

Wads are 7.50$ per 250 .500" wads.  Never priced bp but that's 14dram load is 375gr of black powder. Some guns where proofed up to 20drams1 lol. But ill be good with 5oz of nickel lead ontop of 13-14 drams of goex fg
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Post by: lmbhngr on April 24, 2012, 10:41:56 PM
 ??? WHY ???
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Post by: gobblingghost on April 25, 2012, 07:01:28 AM
Here's one for you. One shot the turkey would be defeathered, clean, tenderized, and cut into strips.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTQQfKxkZpk
Title: Re: 4 gauge why not?
Post by: LBSS on April 25, 2012, 12:34:41 PM
I love the history behind these big bores.
i plan on using a action called a jeager conversion lock .
it was designed for flint locks to be conversion over to percussion caps
very cool i think. Also goex fg is only 13$ per lbs
Title: Re: 4 gauge why not?
Post by: Gooserbat on April 30, 2012, 12:30:05 AM
Keep us informed I like the idea of it but with almosr an once of powder per shot it could get pricey.
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Post by: schuylkillspur on April 30, 2012, 10:35:49 AM
144 ftlbs of RECOIL! :o :TrainWreck1:
Title: Re: 4 gauge why not?
Post by: LBSS on April 30, 2012, 03:24:21 PM
Heres a picture of a brown bess 4 bore.
its rifled so the barrel is 1/2" bigger around at the breech
but yall get the idea
(http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae165/17ms_10ga/RifleFrolic026.jpg)
Title: Re: 4 gauge why not?
Post by: LBSS on April 30, 2012, 03:26:54 PM
(http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae165/17ms_10ga/RifleFrolic025.jpg)


I dont need no hevi shot lol.
I should these pictures to sittingfox muzzleloaders they said no problem we can do it lol
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Post by: snapper1982 on April 30, 2012, 06:11:32 PM
i didnt know they had flip flops back then..lol

that is a beast
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Post by: LBSS on April 30, 2012, 07:59:28 PM
Yeah it weighs 35lbs! Its a 2" diameter barrel at the breech
mine will be 1.5"barrel breech so i hope ita lighter maybe 25lbs lol
.i think the flintlock mechanism will be real cool to learn on. It shouldnt kick to bad at that weight with 4-5oz loads.  Probably start with 3oz loads with 150gr of 1fg powder
And keep moving up. I tell you one thing those turkeys got it coming! !!!!!
Title: Re: 4 gauge why not?
Post by: Fastcat on April 30, 2012, 08:53:15 PM
 Thats a wall gun in that picture. Its basically like a scaled up Brown Bess musket. They are a large caliber designed to fire a single large projectile. Sort of like the great grandfather of a large caliber sniper rifle. They were mounted on walls of forts.
Title: Re: 4 gauge why not?
Post by: callwinner11 on May 01, 2012, 07:51:08 AM
imagine toting  that  around in the woods
the turkey is just gonna have to come to me!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 4 gauge why not?
Post by: LBSS on May 01, 2012, 02:26:37 PM
Yeah the wall gun at times we're used to kill cannoners. It cant he that bad carrying wise Hahaha