went to a shop today found this on the shelf. went to another shop a few miles away and found an sp-10 that matchs. oh i didnt buy either of them. lol
(http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h438/skippyturtle/1187.jpg)
You should have bought it! How much were they asking for it?
Quote from: MUSHCREEK on April 17, 2012, 06:41:25 PM
You should have bought it! How much were they asking for it?
x2 and where at?
595 for the 12 gauge and 829 for the sp-10
what is the big deal about "old school" 11-87? what is difference between the new ones? how old is old school 11-87's?
Quote from: FL-Boss on April 17, 2012, 07:32:52 PM
what is the big deal about "old school" 11-87? what is difference between the new ones? how old is old school 11-87's?
According to what I've been told, the "old school" models were good guns. The newer ones are supposedly inferior quality in comparison. Not trying to offend anyone or start any kind of dispute. Just what I've seen/heard. I don't own one so I can't say for sure.
Quote from: FL-Boss on April 17, 2012, 07:32:52 PM
what is the big deal about "old school" 11-87? what is difference between the new ones? how old is old school 11-87's?
They are referring to the old camo patterns.
they are also a better made gun compared to the guns that Remington puts out today
Quote from: surehuntsalot on April 17, 2012, 09:51:56 PM
they are also a better made gun compared to the guns that Remington puts out today
X8
Quote from: RAJ on April 17, 2012, 10:00:50 PM
Quote from: surehuntsalot on April 17, 2012, 09:51:56 PM
they are also a better made gun compared to the guns that Remington puts out today
X8
x10. Love my old 1187. Not my primary gun, but it will run circles around the new ones.
Thanks... just wondering. My 11-87 I hunt turkey with is around 20 years old.. I guess it is one of the good old school ones. Never jamed anyway
Quote from: FL-Boss on April 17, 2012, 11:29:44 PM
Thanks... just wondering. My 11-87 I hunt turkey with is around 20 years old.. I guess it is one of the good old school ones. Never jamed anyway
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Quote from: joshb311 on April 17, 2012, 07:51:44 PM
Quote from: FL-Boss on April 17, 2012, 07:32:52 PM
what is the big deal about "old school" 11-87? what is difference between the new ones? how old is old school 11-87's?
According to what I've been told, the "old school" models were good guns. The newer ones are supposedly inferior quality in comparison. Not trying to offend anyone or start any kind of dispute. Just what I've seen/heard. I don't own one so I can't say for sure.
Not replying as if you intended to start a dispute, but this is where many people are confused or misled by others. Remington quality has not become inferior when you compare the older versions to the newer versions or when you compare Remington to any other gun manufacture. The less expensive models are intentionally designed with a lower degree of fit and finish. There is a difference there most people do not understand. Those "old school" guns just have that "old school" camo on them that people really fell in love with. An 870 or 11-87 bought today will function just as well as an "old school" camo one.
Quote from: fallsflight on April 18, 2012, 09:21:21 PM
Quote from: joshb311 on April 17, 2012, 07:51:44 PM
Quote from: FL-Boss on April 17, 2012, 07:32:52 PM
what is the big deal about "old school" 11-87? what is difference between the new ones? how old is old school 11-87's?
According to what I've been told, the "old school" models were good guns. The newer ones are supposedly inferior quality in comparison. Not trying to offend anyone or start any kind of dispute. Just what I've seen/heard. I don't own one so I can't say for sure.
Not replying as if you intended to start a dispute, but this is where many people are confused or misled by others. Remington quality has not become inferior when you compare the older versions to the newer versions or when you compare Remington to any other gun manufacture. The less expensive models are intentionally designed with a lower degree of fit and finish. There is a difference there most people do not understand. Those "old school" guns just have that "old school" camo on them that people really fell in love with. An 870 or 11-87 bought today will function just as well as an "old school" camo one.
I respectfully disagree, this has not been my experience.
Quote from: fallsflight on April 18, 2012, 09:21:21 PM
Quote from: joshb311 on April 17, 2012, 07:51:44 PM
Quote from: FL-Boss on April 17, 2012, 07:32:52 PM
what is the big deal about "old school" 11-87? what is difference between the new ones? how old is old school 11-87's?
According to what I've been told, the "old school" models were good guns. The newer ones are supposedly inferior quality in comparison. Not trying to offend anyone or start any kind of dispute. Just what I've seen/heard. I don't own one so I can't say for sure.
Not replying as if you intended to start a dispute, but this is where many people are confused or misled by others. Remington quality has not become inferior when you compare the older versions to the newer versions or when you compare Remington to any other gun manufacture. The less expensive models are intentionally designed with a lower degree of fit and finish. There is a difference there most people do not understand. Those "old school" guns just have that "old school" camo on them that people really fell in love with. An 870 or 11-87 bought today will function just as well as an "old school" camo one.
Well said.
Remington Arms has been in business for nearly 200 years. Obviously them manufacture quality products. I agree it is an issue about making a more reasonably priced product to compete with their competitors. A vast number of consumers want a lower priced gun, so fit and finish are not the same as the higher end models. Remember the old saying " You get what you pay for " . The only way to get cheaper is to buy the chinese clone JUNK. NO THANKS. I am a Made In The USA guy all the way.
I definitely wasn't wanting to step on any toes by referring to newer remmies as being of inferior quality, as I know that there are die hard fans out there that will always swear by them. Remington is subject to "refining" of their products as all companies are over time. The changes can reflect everything from changes in materials to desires to cut production costs or increase profit margins. More often than not, the evolving of a product ultimately affects the consumer negatively.
Just because a company has been around for 200 years doesn't mean that it won't put out a poor product or cut corners as time goes by in order to make products more profitable. How many times have the reigns of these companies changed hands? How many times have company policies changed that the general consumer never catches word of? It happens with all manufacturers. I had always held Benelli in the highest of regards based on their quality of workmanship I had seen from them quite a few years back. Recently my opinions in those areas have started to change as I see what appear to be noticeable declines in quality. The bottom line drives everything in manufacturing. No manufacturer is immune to this. It's a decline that we are seeing everywhere around us but so many fail to recognize.
It seems not matter what your in teh market for thers the upper end equipment & most will also produce a "economy" model, regardless if its guns or guitars or...
Any company has to saty competative so in do'n so they have to cut corners, stamped parts VS machined, plastic stocks & forearms VS walnut & polished bluing VS matte or parkerized finish, its just the nature of the bisiness.
This being said what would one consider to be the years for the better manufactured Remingtons ??
Just ask'n.